Show us your 2021 crf450

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12/5/2020 3:38pm
kiwifan wrote:
wow, are you dumb? CLEARLY if some got out of the warehouse before the flash then they may have the minor issue on one of the...
wow, are you dumb? CLEARLY if some got out of the warehouse before the flash then they may have the minor issue on one of the maps.... duh!!!!!

I guess its convenient fo you to ignore the positive comments of real owners in this thread and focus on the negative ones .... sucks to be you
LKHill wrote:
When 60-80% of owners agree there is an issue you still can't see it? Who is dumb? How are you coming up with only 1 map...
When 60-80% of owners agree there is an issue you still can't see it? Who is dumb? How are you coming up with only 1 map having an issue?

Even most of the owners who have positive comments still seem to think there is an issue. I can tell you what sucks is being a kool-aid drinker.
Yet ...you keep checking back in (yawn)
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kiwifan
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12/5/2020 3:53pm
kiwifan wrote:
wow, are you dumb? CLEARLY if some got out of the warehouse before the flash then they may have the minor issue on one of the...
wow, are you dumb? CLEARLY if some got out of the warehouse before the flash then they may have the minor issue on one of the maps.... duh!!!!!

I guess its convenient fo you to ignore the positive comments of real owners in this thread and focus on the negative ones .... sucks to be you
LKHill wrote:
When 60-80% of owners agree there is an issue you still can't see it? Who is dumb? How are you coming up with only 1 map...
When 60-80% of owners agree there is an issue you still can't see it? Who is dumb? How are you coming up with only 1 map having an issue?

Even most of the owners who have positive comments still seem to think there is an issue. I can tell you what sucks is being a kool-aid drinker.
60-80% where are you getting that from???

Seems to me your are the one with a problem, maybe you need a remap yourself? Smile
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12/5/2020 4:24pm
kiwifan wrote:
60-80% where are you getting that from???

Seems to me your are the one with a problem, maybe you need a remap yourself? Smile
Even if I do the Honda damn sure does.


Maybe you need to go back and read the reviews of the owners on this very site.
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nick610s
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12/5/2020 7:20pm
zlowery wrote:
This 2021 CRF450 went full internet stupid. Rules of internet motocrossing: -The people that chirp the loudest about a bikes/gear/products downfalls have never rode/tried the product...
This 2021 CRF450 went full internet stupid.

Rules of internet motocrossing:
-The people that chirp the loudest about a bikes/gear/products downfalls have never rode/tried the product.
-99% of people that post 2 stroke memes have never done a lap riding one on the pipe
-The people that comment on bike releases bitching about how much bikes cost wont/couldnt buy them is the cost was half.
-Energy drink logos = horsepower.

With all that out of the way. I will state what I have told 100+ people in person since getting my 21 crf450 October 3rd. 10+ rides on it. I KNOW WHEN A HONDA NEEDS RE-MAPPED - THIS BIKE DOES NOT. Owning new 2009, 2010, 2012, 2013, 2017, 2019 bikes... ALL REMAPED except the 2019 due to various flame out, flat tops, rich bottoms. I was truly disappointed how bad all those previous fuel injected bike were - blatant issues on any track. 2019 was the first I didnt remap - thing just absolutely ripped.

The 21 has none of those problems. Haven't even stalled it yet. 10+ full track days on it. Suspension is great, Pro-Action pretty much did exact to my 2019. The bike is so unbelievably rideable with great power. Doesnt rip your arms off out of turn if you dont want it to. Insanely fast if you want to keep twisting the throttle. NOONE IS REMAPPING MY HONDA - TOUCH IT AND DIE!

That is all.
This post wins the thread. 😂
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12/5/2020 7:37pm
kiwifan wrote:
60-80% where are you getting that from???

Seems to me your are the one with a problem, maybe you need a remap yourself? Smile
LKHill wrote:
Even if I do the Honda damn sure does.


Maybe you need to go back and read the reviews of the owners on this very site.
Dude... Did someone at Honda steal your best girl or what ? We get it.. You don’t like the bike or want anyone else to .
I know it’s hard to believe but some of the people that own the bike actually love it.
But then again what do us “kool-aid drinkers” know??
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rjs3118
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12/5/2020 7:42pm
kiwifan wrote:
60-80% where are you getting that from???

Seems to me your are the one with a problem, maybe you need a remap yourself? Smile
LKHill wrote:
Even if I do the Honda damn sure does.


Maybe you need to go back and read the reviews of the owners on this very site.
Wolfey wrote:
Dude... Did someone at Honda steal your best girl or what ? We get it.. You don’t like the bike or want anyone else to...
Dude... Did someone at Honda steal your best girl or what ? We get it.. You don’t like the bike or want anyone else to .
I know it’s hard to believe but some of the people that own the bike actually love it.
But then again what do us “kool-aid drinkers” know??
He keeps showing up to passionately talk about a bike he seems to have no interest in. Lol
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Bogett287
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12/5/2020 8:43pm
zlowery wrote:
This 2021 CRF450 went full internet stupid. Rules of internet motocrossing: -The people that chirp the loudest about a bikes/gear/products downfalls have never rode/tried the product...
This 2021 CRF450 went full internet stupid.

Rules of internet motocrossing:
-The people that chirp the loudest about a bikes/gear/products downfalls have never rode/tried the product.
-99% of people that post 2 stroke memes have never done a lap riding one on the pipe
-The people that comment on bike releases bitching about how much bikes cost wont/couldnt buy them is the cost was half.
-Energy drink logos = horsepower.

With all that out of the way. I will state what I have told 100+ people in person since getting my 21 crf450 October 3rd. 10+ rides on it. I KNOW WHEN A HONDA NEEDS RE-MAPPED - THIS BIKE DOES NOT. Owning new 2009, 2010, 2012, 2013, 2017, 2019 bikes... ALL REMAPED except the 2019 due to various flame out, flat tops, rich bottoms. I was truly disappointed how bad all those previous fuel injected bike were - blatant issues on any track. 2019 was the first I didnt remap - thing just absolutely ripped.

The 21 has none of those problems. Haven't even stalled it yet. 10+ full track days on it. Suspension is great, Pro-Action pretty much did exact to my 2019. The bike is so unbelievably rideable with great power. Doesnt rip your arms off out of turn if you dont want it to. Insanely fast if you want to keep twisting the throttle. NOONE IS REMAPPING MY HONDA - TOUCH IT AND DIE!

That is all.
Until someone has actually rode a 21 it’s hard for them to know how it feels. I have a stock ecm and a vortex both are different the stock box actually pulls longer on top. So I really have had a issue with the mapping most are complaining about with stock ecm . I think a lot of it is what the first initial test was with the bike . Mostly dramatic reviews drawing the bike down yes for me the suspension is not the best . One reason why I have Clint stapes do my suspension so not worried about it . We all usually do the Revalve or send it to who ever. The bike isn’t as a bad as most say sorry for rant
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12/6/2020 6:45am
Wolfey wrote:
Dude... Did someone at Honda steal your best girl or what ? We get it.. You don’t like the bike or want anyone else to...
Dude... Did someone at Honda steal your best girl or what ? We get it.. You don’t like the bike or want anyone else to .
I know it’s hard to believe but some of the people that own the bike actually love it.
But then again what do us “kool-aid drinkers” know??
Just the opposite. I like Honda's. I even had a 1978 CR 125. I am very happy for the guys that love their new Honda. You will find many that do and I applaud them. It's they guys that don't own one that keep quoting my post that keep me coming back.

They keep insisting issues stated by other testers and owners are non-issues. They would seemingly gasp if I insisted the RMZ was as capable as a new Honda, both with suspenders, mapping and a pipe .

Pretty simple, don't keep posting crap and I won't have to come along and clean it up.
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12/6/2020 7:14am Edited Date/Time 12/6/2020 8:12am
"I like Honda's. I even had a 1978 CR 125"

Laughing
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12/6/2020 8:13am
Bogett287 wrote:
Has anyone seen this screen bout halfway down in the muffler on the Yoshimura? Not sure why they would put a screen in their [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/11/15/459484/s1200_A90ABE99_23FE_48EF_A70E_4E9834D0B66E.jpg[/img]
Has anyone seen this screen bout halfway down in the muffler on the Yoshimura? Not sure why they would put a screen in their
That screen creates more usable power. Yoshimura uses it in their KTM 450 offerings as well.
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12/6/2020 8:16am
Bogett287 wrote:
Has anyone seen this screen bout halfway down in the muffler on the Yoshimura? Not sure why they would put a screen in their [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/11/15/459484/s1200_A90ABE99_23FE_48EF_A70E_4E9834D0B66E.jpg[/img]
Has anyone seen this screen bout halfway down in the muffler on the Yoshimura? Not sure why they would put a screen in their
CR92 wrote:
I'm not 100% positive, but I'm pretty sure that's a spark arrestor.
They're a required by the forest service to ride trails here in Oregon.
Its not a spark arrestor! Its there for power the power curve
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12/6/2020 8:17am
mattbmx63 wrote:
Any idea if the yoshimura ti or stainless muffler has thicker material than stock? I’ve had great luck with yoshimura exhausts over the years, never dented...
Any idea if the yoshimura ti or stainless muffler has thicker material than stock?

I’ve had great luck with yoshimura exhausts over the years, never dented or broken one.
Yoshimura has a thicker gauge material than stock
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12/6/2020 8:42am
I don't know if Euro mapping is different, but I haven't noticed any problems and neither have anybody else that I have talked over here. I had finally time to edit the clip from Mantova press ride with Thorpe, Watson and Leopold
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12/8/2020 11:16am
broke my arm 2 weeks so she's gonna be sitting for a couple months hopefully get some new goodies for it while im out

19 hours already damn



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12/8/2020 11:54am
DDunn86 wrote:
broke my arm 2 weeks so she's gonna be sitting for a couple months hopefully get some new goodies for it while im out 19 hours...
broke my arm 2 weeks so she's gonna be sitting for a couple months hopefully get some new goodies for it while im out

19 hours already damn



Bummer man, Heal up quick! Still the best looking 21 so far!
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12/8/2020 12:04pm
MBR wrote:
I don't know if Euro mapping is different, but I haven't noticed any problems and neither have anybody else that I have talked over here. I...
I don't know if Euro mapping is different, but I haven't noticed any problems and neither have anybody else that I have talked over here. I had finally time to edit the clip from Mantova press ride with Thorpe, Watson and Leopold
Funny to see my club buddy Steffen comment the new bike
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12/8/2020 12:11pm
DDunn86 wrote:
broke my arm 2 weeks so she's gonna be sitting for a couple months hopefully get some new goodies for it while im out 19 hours...
broke my arm 2 weeks so she's gonna be sitting for a couple months hopefully get some new goodies for it while im out

19 hours already damn



Who did your graphics they look so much better the. Stock ?
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12/8/2020 12:26pm
Chase Sexton’s factory bike is looking good 😎


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12/8/2020 2:18pm Edited Date/Time 12/8/2020 2:19pm
How are y’all liking the 21s? Got a WE in order. Dealer saying it should be here this week.
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12/8/2020 2:25pm
jkerb720 wrote:
Chase Sexton’s factory bike is looking good 😎 [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/12/08/464206/s1200_A0E48B4D_BE75_4ECD_8F89_0128923823B4.jpg[/img]
Chase Sexton’s factory bike is looking good 😎


Damn, that pipe is lonnnnnnnnnnnnnng
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12/8/2020 2:50pm
jkerb720 wrote:
Chase Sexton’s factory bike is looking good 😎 [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/12/08/464206/s1200_A0E48B4D_BE75_4ECD_8F89_0128923823B4.jpg[/img]
Chase Sexton’s factory bike is looking good 😎


Damn, that pipe is lonnnnnnnnnnnnnng
Someone here can correct me if I am wrong, but longer header pipe generally equals more low down response?
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12/8/2020 3:15pm
DDunn86 wrote:
broke my arm 2 weeks so she's gonna be sitting for a couple months hopefully get some new goodies for it while im out 19 hours...
broke my arm 2 weeks so she's gonna be sitting for a couple months hopefully get some new goodies for it while im out

19 hours already damn



Bogett287 wrote:
Who did your graphics they look so much better the. Stock ?
eramoto.co email them they have a cool design setup on there site
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DDunn86 wrote:
broke my arm 2 weeks so she's gonna be sitting for a couple months hopefully get some new goodies for it while im out 19 hours...
broke my arm 2 weeks so she's gonna be sitting for a couple months hopefully get some new goodies for it while im out

19 hours already damn



Bummer man, Heal up quick! Still the best looking 21 so far!
thank you sir
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12/8/2020 7:03pm
fytefire wrote:
How are y’all liking the 21s? Got a WE in order. Dealer saying it should be here this week.
Please spam the hell out of this thread with pics 😍
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LKHill wrote:
Just the opposite. I like Honda's. I even had a 1978 CR 125. I am very happy for the guys that love their new Honda. You...
Just the opposite. I like Honda's. I even had a 1978 CR 125. I am very happy for the guys that love their new Honda. You will find many that do and I applaud them. It's they guys that don't own one that keep quoting my post that keep me coming back.

They keep insisting issues stated by other testers and owners are non-issues. They would seemingly gasp if I insisted the RMZ was as capable as a new Honda, both with suspenders, mapping and a pipe .

Pretty simple, don't keep posting crap and I won't have to come along and clean it up.
Ok but do you own one?
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12/9/2020 5:28pm
My friends shop had a works edition in there today.
21 works edition
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12/9/2020 5:43pm
DB97 wrote:
My friends shop had a works edition in there today.
21 works edition
I’m hoping I get a call this week. I’m in VA.
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12/9/2020 5:45pm
DB97 wrote:
My friends shop had a works edition in there today.
21 works edition
fytefire wrote:
I’m hoping I get a call this week. I’m in VA.
This one and phxtreme were both Florida.
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