Beirer on Dungey, signing Barcia and Webb

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Sluggo77 12/4/2020 8:36am
12/4/2020 8:36am
How many pages does it take to decide who deserves to wear the most honored team captain hat?
It is a special hat right? Or do they get a "C" on their jersey because SX/MX is the same as hockey?

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robotsfrom 12/4/2020 8:49am
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RACERX69 wrote:
Interesting comment he made about Dungey, Honda and his possible comeback... [b]"Ryan Dungey had been talking about making a comeback, had that been discussed with you...
Interesting comment he made about Dungey, Honda and his possible comeback...

"Ryan Dungey had been talking about making a comeback, had that been discussed with you and did it come close?"

"Not really, I lost a little personal contact after he decided in an overnight move to go on with Honda. So from that moment there was not really a strong link or discussion about his future or a comeback so, I don’t know, I was not really involved in that discussion."

Sounds like RD5 may have upset/burnt a bridge at KTM.
Dungey mentioned in that recent coffee talk interview he did, that the writing was on the wall with KTM before he left. Somewhere in between is the truth.
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wlauderdale219 12/4/2020 9:50am
12/4/2020 9:50am
wlauderdale219 wrote:
Lol really, herlings was 14 yrs old and roczen was 15. Marv was 19 or 20 at the time. Herlings would waxed marv in 12 and...
Lol really, herlings was 14 yrs old and roczen was 15. Marv was 19 or 20 at the time. Herlings would waxed marv in 12 and roczen would won in 2011 against marv
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Roczen was 16 and Herlings was 15 to be precise. If you look carefully, Roczen was second in MX2 world championship in 2010, and first in...
Roczen was 16 and Herlings was 15 to be precise.
If you look carefully, Roczen was second in MX2 world championship in 2010, and first in 2011. Very high level despite his young age... A true rival for his competitors. So was Herlings a few months later...
Musquin was 4 yrs older than roczen that yr in 2010. Thats a huge difference at those ages and roczen and herlings game came up alot in 2011. My point is that I wouldn't say musquin argument being that he beat herlings and roczen so he is above webb title in 2016.
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Johnny Ringo 12/4/2020 10:28am
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Sluggo77 wrote:
How many pages does it take to decide who deserves to wear the most honored team captain hat? It is a special hat right? Or do...
How many pages does it take to decide who deserves to wear the most honored team captain hat?
It is a special hat right? Or do they get a "C" on their jersey because SX/MX is the same as hockey?

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Suicidal_Tendencies 12/4/2020 10:59am
12/4/2020 10:59am
Suicidal_Tendencies wrote:
Webb has a 250 outdoor title and 450 SX title.
ayearinmx wrote:
I was purely saying that Marvin has two world titles and Cooper has one world title... Nothing more, nothing less
Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you are saying. If so, my apologies, but what world title does Cooper have?
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Johnny Ringo 12/4/2020 11:04am
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Suicidal_Tendencies wrote:
Webb has a 250 outdoor title and 450 SX title.
ayearinmx wrote:
I was purely saying that Marvin has two world titles and Cooper has one world title... Nothing more, nothing less
Suicidal_Tendencies wrote:
Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you are saying. If so, my apologies, but what world title does Cooper have?
A world Supercross title, an FIM Championship
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APLMAN99 12/4/2020 11:21am
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To be honest, I wouldn't put much stock in anything that mccread writes as being an accurate statement of what the interviewee said.......

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FuzzyLogic 12/4/2020 11:22am
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Why on earth is there an argument over who the perceived "team captain" is? Marv has been a great rider for them for 10+ years. He is on the tail end of his career and a phenomenal "B" guy to have. Cooper is the much younger guy that has established himself as a contender (and championship winner) in the class. Everyone pulling out the stat book and listing Marv's accomplishments in the GP's and thinks they are relevant today is missing the point. Those wins have zero bearing on how he is perceived as a contender today. They were great accomplishments for him at the time, but they mean nothing now.
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Suicidal_Tendencies 12/4/2020 11:35am
12/4/2020 11:35am
ayearinmx wrote:
I was purely saying that Marvin has two world titles and Cooper has one world title... Nothing more, nothing less
Suicidal_Tendencies wrote:
Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you are saying. If so, my apologies, but what world title does Cooper have?
Johnny Ringo wrote:
A world Supercross title, an FIM Championship
Okay, thanks for that clarification. Smile
jorgechavez 12/4/2020 12:36pm
12/4/2020 12:36pm Edited Date/Time 12/4/2020 12:39pm
FuzzyLogic wrote:
Why on earth is there an argument over who the perceived "team captain" is? Marv has been a great rider for them for 10+ years. He...
Why on earth is there an argument over who the perceived "team captain" is? Marv has been a great rider for them for 10+ years. He is on the tail end of his career and a phenomenal "B" guy to have. Cooper is the much younger guy that has established himself as a contender (and championship winner) in the class. Everyone pulling out the stat book and listing Marv's accomplishments in the GP's and thinks they are relevant today is missing the point. Those wins have zero bearing on how he is perceived as a contender today. They were great accomplishments for him at the time, but they mean nothing now.
I agree completely. No disrespect to Marvin the guy is a class act all around and an incredible rider at that, but if we’re debating who has had the better career it’s unquestionably Webb IMO. I assume Marv went to the US with the goal of becoming a premier class SX champion, and while he has certainly been close and should be proud of it, Cooper has actually accomplished that goal of winning it.

They both have had great careers so far, but if we have to pick one over the other I just don’t see how you can realistically say Musquins career has been better
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Chris99Flannery 12/4/2020 12:37pm
12/4/2020 12:37pm
I love Chad Reeds comment in why he never had Ktm factory opportunities. Said because he took Beirers ride in 250gp's and he beat him. Beirer sounds a little salty overall.
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MXChristian11 12/4/2020 12:44pm
12/4/2020 12:44pm
If I was asked today who had a better chance at being on the box and winning a title, I’d say Webb.

And I think a lot of others would too. I don’t see any reason why Marv would be team captain.
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UpTiTe 12/4/2020 7:46pm
12/4/2020 7:46pm
Kennyfreemoney wrote:
Wonder how Marv feels knowing that Cooper is considered theTeam Captain now
UpTiTe wrote:
I’m sure his million a year is ok with it.
ItakePhotos wrote:
I am going to take a guess he also has no problem with all that pressure to be #1 on Coop and then he just prepares...
I am going to take a guess he also has no problem with all that pressure to be #1 on Coop and then he just prepares to take each weekend one by one. Add the fact it should put a little hunger in him to get back on top, but he strikes me as a guy who doesn't really care about that, he is KTM family. Been a long time since we chatted. Hope all is well.
All is well, how have you been?
ItakePhotos 12/5/2020 5:13am
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UpTiTe wrote:
I’m sure his million a year is ok with it.
ItakePhotos wrote:
I am going to take a guess he also has no problem with all that pressure to be #1 on Coop and then he just prepares...
I am going to take a guess he also has no problem with all that pressure to be #1 on Coop and then he just prepares to take each weekend one by one. Add the fact it should put a little hunger in him to get back on top, but he strikes me as a guy who doesn't really care about that, he is KTM family. Been a long time since we chatted. Hope all is well.
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All is well, how have you been?
Can’t complain. Back to the east coast. Did a little riding last year, then my 450 reminded me that im not in my 20s still and busted about every bone on the right side of my body. So yeah, probably better to just keep taking pictures of others riding lol.
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Huckster 12/5/2020 1:39pm
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APLMAN99 wrote:
To be honest, I wouldn't put much stock in anything that mccread writes as being an accurate statement of what the interviewee said.......

Lol! Spoken like a true Vitalmx veteran.
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APLMAN99 12/5/2020 1:43pm
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APLMAN99 wrote:
To be honest, I wouldn't put much stock in anything that mccread writes as being an accurate statement of what the interviewee said.......

Huckster wrote:
Lol! Spoken like a true Vitalmx veteran.

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rallendude 12/7/2020 6:12am
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Chris99Flannery wrote:
I love Chad Reeds comment in why he never had Ktm factory opportunities. Said because he took Beirers ride in 250gp's and he beat him. Beirer...
I love Chad Reeds comment in why he never had Ktm factory opportunities. Said because he took Beirers ride in 250gp's and he beat him. Beirer sounds a little salty overall.
That's what I was thinking. You guys are all mulling over who the team leader is with one 250 title and one SX title or the guy with 2 world titles. I'm over here thinking Beirer let his ego cost him a chance at putting an eight time champ, who never finished outside the top three in rankings, back under one if his three tents. .
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DonM 12/7/2020 6:21am
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APLMAN99 wrote:
To be honest, I wouldn't put much stock in anything that mccread writes as being an accurate statement of what the interviewee said.......

Wait What?....mccread twist something or create an interview to cause controversy....never!...maybe it's just multiple interviews that he pieced together to appear like he did it.....
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Johnny Ringo 12/7/2020 11:03am
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Chris99Flannery wrote:
I love Chad Reeds comment in why he never had Ktm factory opportunities. Said because he took Beirers ride in 250gp's and he beat him. Beirer...
I love Chad Reeds comment in why he never had Ktm factory opportunities. Said because he took Beirers ride in 250gp's and he beat him. Beirer sounds a little salty overall.
rallendude wrote:
That's what I was thinking. You guys are all mulling over who the team leader is with one 250 title and one SX title or the...
That's what I was thinking. You guys are all mulling over who the team leader is with one 250 title and one SX title or the guy with 2 world titles. I'm over here thinking Beirer let his ego cost him a chance at putting an eight time champ, who never finished outside the top three in rankings, back under one if his three tents. .
8 time champ?
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APLMAN99 12/7/2020 11:25am
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Chris99Flannery wrote:
I love Chad Reeds comment in why he never had Ktm factory opportunities. Said because he took Beirers ride in 250gp's and he beat him. Beirer...
I love Chad Reeds comment in why he never had Ktm factory opportunities. Said because he took Beirers ride in 250gp's and he beat him. Beirer sounds a little salty overall.
rallendude wrote:
That's what I was thinking. You guys are all mulling over who the team leader is with one 250 title and one SX title or the...
That's what I was thinking. You guys are all mulling over who the team leader is with one 250 title and one SX title or the guy with 2 world titles. I'm over here thinking Beirer let his ego cost him a chance at putting an eight time champ, who never finished outside the top three in rankings, back under one if his three tents. .
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8 time champ?
I believe he's referring to Dungey.......
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Johnny Ringo 12/7/2020 11:36am
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rallendude wrote:
That's what I was thinking. You guys are all mulling over who the team leader is with one 250 title and one SX title or the...
That's what I was thinking. You guys are all mulling over who the team leader is with one 250 title and one SX title or the guy with 2 world titles. I'm over here thinking Beirer let his ego cost him a chance at putting an eight time champ, who never finished outside the top three in rankings, back under one if his three tents. .
Johnny Ringo wrote:
8 time champ?
APLMAN99 wrote:
I believe he's referring to Dungey.......
Dunge only has 7?

Edit, I was wrong. Forgot his ‘15 outdoor title
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APLMAN99 12/7/2020 11:43am
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Johnny Ringo wrote:
8 time champ?
APLMAN99 wrote:
I believe he's referring to Dungey.......
Johnny Ringo wrote:
Dunge only has 7?

Edit, I was wrong. Forgot his ‘15 outdoor title
I'm not the down voter!!!!!

But yeah, here are his 'National' level championships.

2017 450SX
2016 450SX
2015 450MX
2015 450SX
2012 450MX
2010 450MX
2010 450SX
2009 250MX
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Drtbykr 12/7/2020 4:09pm
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RACERX69 wrote:
Interesting comment he made about Dungey, Honda and his possible comeback... [b]"Ryan Dungey had been talking about making a comeback, had that been discussed with you...
Interesting comment he made about Dungey, Honda and his possible comeback...

"Ryan Dungey had been talking about making a comeback, had that been discussed with you and did it come close?"

"Not really, I lost a little personal contact after he decided in an overnight move to go on with Honda. So from that moment there was not really a strong link or discussion about his future or a comeback so, I don’t know, I was not really involved in that discussion."

Sounds like RD5 may have upset/burnt a bridge at KTM.
JJO741 wrote:
That would be silly of KTM. Dungey, with the assistance of DeCoster and Harrison, is the reason KTM is so prominent in the US today.
This. Dungey sold a pile of bikes and gained many orange fans.

Getting petty ain’t cool.
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