Worlds Top 6 fastest450 mx riders?

motokiwi
Edited Date/Time 1/26/2012 10:16pm
* Riders must not be retired - no RC

IMO:
7
2
101
800
22
Cairoli
|
Crush
Profile picture for user Crush
Posts
21077
Joined
4/26/2009
Location
Sydney AU
Crush 6/10/2009 9:08pm
6/10/2009 9:08pm
How...

When was the last time you saw 101 ride a bike let alone a 450... What did he go like 6 8 at Glen Helen in 2008...
Big Lenny
Profile picture for user Big Lenny
Posts
14379
Joined
8/15/2006
Location
Compton, CA US
Big Lenny 6/10/2009 9:17pm
6/10/2009 9:17pm
Blink
jonjon714
Profile picture for user jonjon714
Posts
5916
Joined
4/29/2008
Location
Virginia Beach, VA US
jonjon714 6/10/2009 9:25pm
6/10/2009 9:25pm
Ozzy22
Profile picture for user Ozzy22
Posts
91
Joined
4/5/2009
Location
Cairns AU
Ozzy22 6/10/2009 9:35pm
6/10/2009 9:35pm
How dare you give Chad Reed such a compliment like that on this board. Shocked

The Shop

See All »
TJ 755
Profile picture for user TJ 755
Posts
1893
Joined
8/16/2006
Location
North Bend, WA US
TJ 755 6/10/2009 9:43pm
6/10/2009 9:43pm
lose 101 and 22 and I shall concur
redrider52
Profile picture for user redrider52
Posts
891
Joined
5/13/2009
Location
Oklahoma City, OK US
redrider52 6/10/2009 9:51pm
6/10/2009 9:51pm Edited Date/Time 6/10/2009 9:58pm
Crush wrote:
How... When was the last time you saw 101 ride a bike let alone a 450... What did he go like 6 8 at Glen Helen...
How...

When was the last time you saw 101 ride a bike let alone a 450... What did he go like 6 8 at Glen Helen in 2008...
He went 6-32 with a blown motor. He was third fastest that day too. He started in about 7 and was moving through the pack the whole 1st moto and was catching Ferry for 3rd but went down in the said section with about two or three laps to go.
mxgoon
Profile picture for user mxgoon
Posts
1061
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
Sydney AU
mxgoon 6/10/2009 9:55pm
6/10/2009 9:55pm
7
22
Pourcell (the other one)
800
2
Cairoli
gmoneycrf450
Profile picture for user gmoneycrf450
Posts
57
Joined
5/28/2008
Location
Sacramento, CA US
gmoneycrf450 6/10/2009 10:01pm
6/10/2009 10:01pm
motokiwi wrote:
* Riders must not be retired - no RC

IMO:
7
2
101
800
22
Cairoli
7
2
800
22
33
15
williamsmotowerx 6/10/2009 10:37pm
6/10/2009 10:37pm
Are you talking lap times, one lap wonder?

JLaw should be in there if so.
mxgoon
Profile picture for user mxgoon
Posts
1061
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
Sydney AU
mxgoon 6/10/2009 10:56pm
6/10/2009 10:56pm
He would have to make it past the parade lap first.
mccread
Profile picture for user mccread
Posts
5934
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
US
mccread 6/11/2009 1:51am
6/11/2009 1:51am Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 12:21am
I think the 2008 World Champ should be there - Phillipearts

+ Cairoli
Bubba
RV
Barragan and right now Nagl is pretty fast

There are about 10 factory guys in MX GP all a similar speed plus about Bubba RV Reed Alessi and Grant in the states
googs
Profile picture for user googs
Posts
444
Joined
2/1/2009
Location
Sydney AU
googs 6/11/2009 2:08am
6/11/2009 2:08am Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 12:21am
1) bubbles


2) distant second reed (when fit).

3) RV up Reeds arse.

4) cairoli

5) alessi

6) Grant /Ferry (when fit)


Kdub would/should be there (top 3) if he cared for it anymore.........

mxady29
Profile picture for user mxady29
Posts
19
Joined
6/9/2009
Location
Salisbury GB
mxady29 6/11/2009 2:34am
6/11/2009 2:34am
mxgoon wrote:
He would have to make it past the parade lap first.
You cant rate this as easy as that. On certain tracks and different conditions it will vary drastically. Cairolli has to be up there whatever conditions and Nagl is fast becoming a force to be reckoned with.
jackson222
Profile picture for user jackson222
Posts
753
Joined
12/20/2008
Location
Nsw AU
jackson222 6/11/2009 2:43am
6/11/2009 2:43am
These are mine out of the guys that we have seen race THIS YEAR. And the question was the fastest MX rider, i'm presuming this can mean for one lap, which is why Reed got in over Grant.

Ryan Villopoto
Tony Cairoli
Mike Alessi
Max Nagl
Jonathon Barragan
Chad Reed
mccread
Profile picture for user mccread
Posts
5934
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
US
mccread 6/11/2009 4:21am
6/11/2009 4:21am
I think that is pretty accurate though maybe Phillipearts over Reed IMO
rileymx
Profile picture for user rileymx
Posts
1107
Joined
10/24/2007
Location
Azores islands PT
rileymx 6/11/2009 5:54am
6/11/2009 5:54am
gmoneycrf450 wrote:
7
2
800
22
33
15
funny how american fans are so sure of their riders.........but still are crying out loud for james to be on the mxdn team ........
how can they be so afraid.....if all the fastest riders in the world are from usa....??
gp
Profile picture for user gp
Posts
200
Joined
8/15/2006
Location
Saint Charles, MO US
gp 6/11/2009 6:07am
6/11/2009 6:07am
If they are fast they are here. If they are fast and aren't here then they are fast but not smart.

The fastest may on a motorcycle has a number 4 on his car, darn it.
Crush
Profile picture for user Crush
Posts
21077
Joined
4/26/2009
Location
Sydney AU
Crush 6/11/2009 6:38am
6/11/2009 6:38am
mccread wrote:
I think that is pretty accurate though maybe Phillipearts over Reed IMO
How can you say that when he has been the fastest qualifier at every National this year...?

Pit Row

See All »
rileymx
Profile picture for user rileymx
Posts
1107
Joined
10/24/2007
Location
Azores islands PT
rileymx 6/11/2009 7:00am
6/11/2009 7:00am Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 12:21am
mccread wrote:
I think that is pretty accurate though maybe Phillipearts over Reed IMO
Crush wrote:
How can you say that when he has been the fastest qualifier at every National this year...?
never got to understand that........isn't the point of racing finishing in front of the competition...????? isn't qualifying a part of the practice sessions before the race...????
every body here talks about the fastest, but i dont see the point on being the fastest qualifier, doing the holeshot and not matching it up with the finishing position........kinda like canard being always up front and then losing it to dungey or pourcel....doesn't he have to step it up and get the wins....?
isnt it all about winning...??????????
Matt Fisher 6/11/2009 7:39am
6/11/2009 7:39am
mccread wrote:
I think that is pretty accurate though maybe Phillipearts over Reed IMO
Crush wrote:
How can you say that when he has been the fastest qualifier at every National this year...?
rileymx wrote:
never got to understand that........isn't the point of racing finishing in front of the competition...????? isn't qualifying a part of the practice sessions before the race...
never got to understand that........isn't the point of racing finishing in front of the competition...????? isn't qualifying a part of the practice sessions before the race...????
every body here talks about the fastest, but i dont see the point on being the fastest qualifier, doing the holeshot and not matching it up with the finishing position........kinda like canard being always up front and then losing it to dungey or pourcel....doesn't he have to step it up and get the wins....?
isnt it all about winning...??????????
What, you're never heard of winning practice?
huck
Profile picture for user huck
Posts
17024
Joined
8/16/2006
Location
Mountain Home, AR US
huck 6/11/2009 7:41am
6/11/2009 7:41am
Isn't Stewart retired?
Adam43
Profile picture for user Adam43
Posts
3305
Joined
8/16/2006
Location
WF
Adam43 6/11/2009 7:43am
6/11/2009 7:43am
Stewart
Villopoto
Alessi
Cairoli
Windham
Crush
Profile picture for user Crush
Posts
21077
Joined
4/26/2009
Location
Sydney AU
Crush 6/11/2009 7:48am
6/11/2009 7:48am
Question said fastest and I would put anything down on Reed beatin Philliapaerts! Start or not...
J.F.S
Profile picture for user J.F.S
Posts
4383
Joined
10/20/2008
Location
Stockholm SE
J.F.S 6/11/2009 7:51am
6/11/2009 7:51am
mccread wrote:
I think that is pretty accurate though maybe Phillipearts over Reed IMO
Phillipearts would easily beat Reed IMO, no doubt!
brakkeman_ 6/11/2009 8:48am
6/11/2009 8:48am
stewart
villopoto
alessi
Cairoli
Philipaerts
Seb Pourcel

some of them are injured but i made my list considering everyone at the top of their game

think the us guys dont need any explanation, but anyway:
Stewart kicked everyones butt last year and pretty easy
Villopoto was doing the same this year but not quite as dominant
Alessi just won by miles last week

for the Euro's:

Speedwise, cairoli is the fastest in europe right now
Pilipili (aka philipaerts) is current champ and 2nd fastest in Europe at the moment.
Pourcel was damn fast last year and was threathening Stewart (ok not for long, but still) at the MXDN last year.
joe101uk
Profile picture for user joe101uk
Posts
1075
Joined
8/16/2008
Location
London GB
joe101uk 6/11/2009 9:57am
6/11/2009 9:57am
why is stewart getting mentioned amongst the fastest motocross riders ? if he rode motocross he probably would be but he's a supercross rider now.

my fastest 6 (injuries put aside) :

villopoto
cairoli
nagl
alessi
phillipaerts
and when he comes back...ben townley
jamma10
Profile picture for user jamma10
Posts
10573
Joined
8/24/2008
Location
Bristol GB
jamma10 6/11/2009 10:23am
6/11/2009 10:23am
brakkeman_ wrote:
stewart villopoto alessi Cairoli Philipaerts Seb Pourcel some of them are injured but i made my list considering everyone at the top of their game think...
stewart
villopoto
alessi
Cairoli
Philipaerts
Seb Pourcel

some of them are injured but i made my list considering everyone at the top of their game

think the us guys dont need any explanation, but anyway:
Stewart kicked everyones butt last year and pretty easy
Villopoto was doing the same this year but not quite as dominant
Alessi just won by miles last week

for the Euro's:

Speedwise, cairoli is the fastest in europe right now
Pilipili (aka philipaerts) is current champ and 2nd fastest in Europe at the moment.
Pourcel was damn fast last year and was threathening Stewart (ok not for long, but still) at the MXDN last year.
I dont know why people try and pretend Pourcel had Stewarts number at Donnington last year. Sure he was giving him some stick for a few laps and I for one was loving it (rooting for the underdog is a common trait in us English). But about half way through the race Stewart cleared off and left Pourcel basically cruising around on his own when he gave up the fight. The fact that he wasn't afraid to pass Stewart and ruffle his feathers for a few laps was great, it was probably the first time Stewart had been passed all season, but I don't think that should gloss over the fact that Stewart should really have won his class that day.

Up until the des Nations Seb Pourcel hadn't exactly set the GP's alight like his younger brother and he hasn't done anything spectacular since then either, so I don't think I would necessarily even put him in the top ten 450 riders.
denny360
Profile picture for user denny360
Posts
190
Joined
8/14/2008
Location
Omaha, NE US
denny360 6/11/2009 10:27am
6/11/2009 10:27am
A great debate that will rage on for years. LOL Good topic. One that I honestly dont have an answer for.

Would they be racing in the US? Or in Europe? In the sand? Or on clay? How about wood chips?

All I know is this year's MXdN should be a good one. The Italian team of Cairoli, Philly and Guarneri will be fast against Stewart, Grant and Dungey. Especially with it being their home event.
Tiki
Profile picture for user Tiki
Posts
10579
Joined
8/1/2006
Location
Corona, CA US
Fantasy
1077th
Tiki 6/11/2009 10:32am
6/11/2009 10:32am
338 if he can ever finish a lap.
mccread
Profile picture for user mccread
Posts
5934
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
US
mccread 6/11/2009 10:42am
6/11/2009 10:42am
Phillipearts beat Reed at the MXDN and is the current world champ iand won the British GP its stands to reason.

Post a reply to: Worlds Top 6 fastest450 mx riders?