2021 KX250

steelworker77 wrote:

Well my wife put about 2.5 hours on it so far. Probably 1/2 hr of that was me. Compared to her 19 YZ250f it feels way...

Well my wife put about 2.5 hours on it so far. Probably 1/2 hr of that was me. Compared to her 19 YZ250f it feels way ahead. Way more agile, light, and the motor revs forever without giving up bottom end and just feels like it revs much more freely if that makes sense. I bought a 51 tooth rear sprocket thinking I would need to throw it on and it pulls the stock 50 more than fine. The suspension is way to stiff for her at 155lbs. It handles identically to my 2020 kx450. We are more than happy with our choice.

One weird thing I have noticed and maybe its a kawi 250 thing I am just unaware of. If you start the bike with the choke out it starts as it should with the idle raised but if you leave it on for more than 20 seconds or so it revs to about 6500 and just holds steady there. I couldn't find anything disconnected or out of adjustment so a bit stumped on that.

LKHill wrote:

Thanks for your review. I have a hard time believing a 2020 kx450 feels way more agile that a 2019 yz250f (never rode either). Why would...

Thanks for your review. I have a hard time believing a 2020 kx450 feels way more agile that a 2019 yz250f (never rode either). Why would you not turn the choke off when the revs start to climb? It's EFI, not a carb.

steelworker77 wrote:

Well my wife put about 2.5 hours on it so far. Probably 1/2 hr of that was me. Compared to her 19 YZ250f it feels way...

Well my wife put about 2.5 hours on it so far. Probably 1/2 hr of that was me. Compared to her 19 YZ250f it feels way ahead. Way more agile, light, and the motor revs forever without giving up bottom end and just feels like it revs much more freely if that makes sense. I bought a 51 tooth rear sprocket thinking I would need to throw it on and it pulls the stock 50 more than fine. The suspension is way to stiff for her at 155lbs. It handles identically to my 2020 kx450. We are more than happy with our choice.

One weird thing I have noticed and maybe its a kawi 250 thing I am just unaware of. If you start the bike with the choke out it starts as it should with the idle raised but if you leave it on for more than 20 seconds or so it revs to about 6500 and just holds steady there. I couldn't find anything disconnected or out of adjustment so a bit stumped on that.

LKHill wrote:

Thanks for your review. I have a hard time believing a 2020 kx450 feels way more agile that a 2019 yz250f (never rode either). Why would...

Thanks for your review. I have a hard time believing a 2020 kx450 feels way more agile that a 2019 yz250f (never rode either). Why would you not turn the choke off when the revs start to climb? It's EFI, not a carb.

mxryan25 wrote:

I don’t think he meant a kx450 feels more agile than a yz250f :blink: my buddy who has a 20’ yzf took a spin on my...

I don’t think he meant a kx450 feels more agile than a yz250f my buddy who has a 20’ yzf took a spin on my bike yesterday and he had the same comments, engine feels really free and bike feels lighter more agile comparatively. I haven’t left it choked more than a few seconds and a lot of times don’t even use it mine starts up effortlessly
Also tried the aggressive white coupler yesterday, definitely gave it some more bottom end torque and kept the top end power. It did feel slightly more bound up on decel but nothing major, will likely keep the white plug in 24/7

LKHill wrote:

Thanks for your review. I have a hard time believing a 2020 kx450 feels way more agile that a 2019 yz250f (never rode either). Why would...

Thanks for your review. I have a hard time believing a 2020 kx450 feels way more agile that a 2019 yz250f (never rode either). Why would you not turn the choke off when the revs start to climb? It's EFI, not a carb.

mxryan25 wrote:

I don’t think he meant a kx450 feels more agile than a yz250f :blink: my buddy who has a 20’ yzf took a spin on my...

I don’t think he meant a kx450 feels more agile than a yz250f my buddy who has a 20’ yzf took a spin on my bike yesterday and he had the same comments, engine feels really free and bike feels lighter more agile comparatively. I haven’t left it choked more than a few seconds and a lot of times don’t even use it mine starts up effortlessly
Also tried the aggressive white coupler yesterday, definitely gave it some more bottom end torque and kept the top end power. It did feel slightly more bound up on decel but nothing major, will likely keep the white plug in 24/7

steelworker77 wrote:

Very well aware how efi works. Question was that it just weird that the revs would go high like that and just hold. I am a...

Very well aware how efi works. Question was that it just weird that the revs would go high like that and just hold.

I am a yamaha fanatic and rode both the yz450f and the kx450 and the agile part is the first thing you notice. Which is why I went with the kx over the yamaha. The kx is by far slimmer and you can certainly feel the weight difference.

Baton Rouge wrote:

Interesting, at the end of the day which bike did he prefered ? Did he find points the yami was doing better than the kawi...

Interesting, at the end of the day which bike did he prefered ? Did he find points the yami was doing better than the kawi ? Vice Versa ?

Really torn between these two bikes for 2021 that's why i'm asking.

Regarding the agility of the bike, the new YZF will be better for 2021 but i don't think it will be more agile than the kawi.

I did ride again the 19 250 Yzf of my friend this weekend and man i really love this bike compared to my 350.

MotoChris wrote:

Any input on rider triangle (peg to seat to handlebar distance) comparison between the YZ250F and KX250? I was happy to see that the KX offered...

Any input on rider triangle (peg to seat to handlebar distance) comparison between the YZ250F and KX250? I was happy to see that the KX offered lower peg position until I realized that it also moved them forward too. I’m 6’1 and very interested in rider compartment space.

steelworker77 wrote:

Well my wife put about 2.5 hours on it so far. Probably 1/2 hr of that was me. Compared to her 19 YZ250f it feels way...

Well my wife put about 2.5 hours on it so far. Probably 1/2 hr of that was me. Compared to her 19 YZ250f it feels way ahead. Way more agile, light, and the motor revs forever without giving up bottom end and just feels like it revs much more freely if that makes sense. I bought a 51 tooth rear sprocket thinking I would need to throw it on and it pulls the stock 50 more than fine. The suspension is way to stiff for her at 155lbs. It handles identically to my 2020 kx450. We are more than happy with our choice.

One weird thing I have noticed and maybe its a kawi 250 thing I am just unaware of. If you start the bike with the choke out it starts as it should with the idle raised but if you leave it on for more than 20 seconds or so it revs to about 6500 and just holds steady there. I couldn't find anything disconnected or out of adjustment so a bit stumped on that.

JB479 wrote:

The yz250f have a smaller rider triangle then the kx’s. I run my 2020 kx450 In the lower footpeg position and the bars mounts in the...

The yz250f have a smaller rider triangle then the kx’s. I run my 2020 kx450 In the lower footpeg position and the bars mounts in the foward holes. Whenever i get on my mates YZ250f, the footpegs feel alot higher.

MotoChris wrote:

Any input on rider triangle (peg to seat to handlebar distance) comparison between the YZ250F and KX250? I was happy to see that the KX offered...

Any input on rider triangle (peg to seat to handlebar distance) comparison between the YZ250F and KX250? I was happy to see that the KX offered lower peg position until I realized that it also moved them forward too. I’m 6’1 and very interested in rider compartment space.

JB479 wrote:

The yz250f have a smaller rider triangle then the kx’s. I run my 2020 kx450 In the lower footpeg position and the bars mounts in the...

The yz250f have a smaller rider triangle then the kx’s. I run my 2020 kx450 In the lower footpeg position and the bars mounts in the foward holes. Whenever i get on my mates YZ250f, the footpegs feel alot higher.

MotoChris wrote:

Any input on rider triangle (peg to seat to handlebar distance) comparison between the YZ250F and KX250? I was happy to see that the KX offered...

Any input on rider triangle (peg to seat to handlebar distance) comparison between the YZ250F and KX250? I was happy to see that the KX offered lower peg position until I realized that it also moved them forward too. I’m 6’1 and very interested in rider compartment space.

JB479 wrote:

The yz250f have a smaller rider triangle then the kx’s. I run my 2020 kx450 In the lower footpeg position and the bars mounts in the...

The yz250f have a smaller rider triangle then the kx’s. I run my 2020 kx450 In the lower footpeg position and the bars mounts in the foward holes. Whenever i get on my mates YZ250f, the footpegs feel alot higher.

MotoChris wrote:

Thanks for the info. I currently have a 2019 YZ250f and it’s an awesome bike but I am considering a 21 KX250.

quadzrulebro wrote:

The old lowered peg setup used to move them forward to move them down. Since 2019, the 450s have been a straight drop. I’m sure the...

The old lowered peg setup used to move them forward to move them down. Since 2019, the 450s have been a straight drop. I’m sure the 250s will be the same in 21.

steelworker77 wrote:

Hoping someone can chime in on this on our 21. Picked up some springs from factory connection since they are nearby. The bike is my wifes...

Hoping someone can chime in on this on our 21.

Picked up some springs from factory connection since they are nearby. The bike is my wifes and she races the women's class and is 155lbs 5'9. They recommended 4.4kg fork springs and a 5.3 kg rear. Havent had a chance to ride yet but I can't get close at all between my static and race sag.

Was always told 30-40mm is what your looking for for static sag when your race sag is set. At 103mm in gear I am sitting right at 48mm. Stock rear spring i was at 90 and 40.

When I called them to question about it they told me high static sag numbers are no big deal as long as there is preload on the spring? This seems off from what all suspension guys have told me. With that high of a static number wouldn't the shock already be riding down in the stroke to much?

Thinking I need to go down to a 4.9 kg?

steelworker77 wrote:

Hoping someone can chime in on this on our 21. Picked up some springs from factory connection since they are nearby. The bike is my wifes...

Hoping someone can chime in on this on our 21.

Picked up some springs from factory connection since they are nearby. The bike is my wifes and she races the women's class and is 155lbs 5'9. They recommended 4.4kg fork springs and a 5.3 kg rear. Havent had a chance to ride yet but I can't get close at all between my static and race sag.

Was always told 30-40mm is what your looking for for static sag when your race sag is set. At 103mm in gear I am sitting right at 48mm. Stock rear spring i was at 90 and 40.

When I called them to question about it they told me high static sag numbers are no big deal as long as there is preload on the spring? This seems off from what all suspension guys have told me. With that high of a static number wouldn't the shock already be riding down in the stroke to much?

Thinking I need to go down to a 4.9 kg?

quadzrulebro wrote:

The old lowered peg setup used to move them forward to move them down. Since 2019, the 450s have been a straight drop. I’m sure the...

The old lowered peg setup used to move them forward to move them down. Since 2019, the 450s have been a straight drop. I’m sure the 250s will be the same in 21.

LKHill wrote:

Funny I had both a 2017 and 2018 and that was not the case.

quadzrulebro wrote:

The old lowered peg setup used to move them forward to move them down. Since 2019, the 450s have been a straight drop. I’m sure the...

The old lowered peg setup used to move them forward to move them down. Since 2019, the 450s have been a straight drop. I’m sure the 250s will be the same in 21.

LKHill wrote:

Funny I had both a 2017 and 2018 and that was not the case.

quadzrulebro wrote:

Correct. Completely new frame in 2019.

LKHill wrote:

Funny I had both a 2017 and 2018 and that was not the case.

quadzrulebro wrote:

Correct. Completely new frame in 2019.

LKHill wrote:

No it's not correct. The pegs don't more forward on the '17/ '18.

quadzrulebro wrote:

Correct. Completely new frame in 2019.

LKHill wrote:

No it's not correct. The pegs don't more forward on the '17/ '18.

quadzrulebro wrote:

I have no idea what the ‘17 and ‘18 do (I never owned one). I just know that ‘19 and newer is a vertical drop 🤦🏼‍♂️

LKHill wrote:

No it's not correct. The pegs don't more forward on the '17/ '18.

quadzrulebro wrote:

I have no idea what the ‘17 and ‘18 do (I never owned one). I just know that ‘19 and newer is a vertical drop 🤦🏼‍♂️

LKHill wrote:

Did you not post this? "[b]The old lowered peg setup used to move them forward to move them down[/b]. Since 2019, the 450s have been a...

Did you not post this?

"The old lowered peg setup used to move them forward to move them down. Since 2019, the 450s have been a straight drop. I’m sure the 250s will be the same in 21."

I doubt that any year moved them forward.

quadzrulebro wrote:

The last Kawasaki I owned with adjustable pegs (a 2013 450) moved the pegs forward when moving them down, as I recall. I thought this might...

The last Kawasaki I owned with adjustable pegs (a 2013 450) moved the pegs forward when moving them down, as I recall. I thought this might be what he was referring to.

quadzrulebro wrote:

The last Kawasaki I owned with adjustable pegs (a 2013 450) moved the pegs forward when moving them down, as I recall. I thought this might...

The last Kawasaki I owned with adjustable pegs (a 2013 450) moved the pegs forward when moving them down, as I recall. I thought this might be what he was referring to.

LKHill wrote:

Apparently you never tried to move them because that's not the case.

kNewc wrote:

Got mine Friday and started breaking it in that day. I have an '05 RMZ450 and I figured this would be a lot less powerful but...

Got mine Friday and started breaking it in that day. I have an '05 RMZ450 and I figured this would be a lot less powerful but it rips! 3rd gear pulled a lot longer than I expected for a 250. It's my first EFI bike and there's a major difference. Suspension was pretty stiff for me and I weigh 210 with gear on. It felt tall and I had to be on my toes, but my sag wasn't set. I rode through our home track and a tilled field and it handled great. Can't wait to get into some deep stuff.