Lawrence - BLACK FLAGGED?

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WhKnuckle 5/30/2009 8:34pm
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Section 3.14(a) in the AMA rulebook says, "Jumping or fouling the starting gate may result in a penatly or disqualification." Just to clear that up.

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racefan222 5/30/2009 8:46pm
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Come on guys, the kid has been suspended numerous times and he's been on probation for how many years straight now?????? When will you guys figure out who it is that is screwing up here and quit blaming the AMA. The guy isnt just on probation, hes on probation now for what seems like forever will still another year let alone hes been suspended 3 or 4 times in the last year, everytime he screws up there going to penalize him to the max of the rule...... even for something minor like this.

In the end the people I feel bad for in this whole deal are the companies that spent their money on this flake with hardly anything in return. Gotta ask yourself how much longer this can go on before the sponsors pull there money and J-Law is left scratching his head or making some wise-ass stoner comment that hes so famous for.
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I havent seen the race but JLaw is like a huge magnet that just attracts trouble, It sounds as the full punishment was dished out to him again even though i think it was harsh , I just wanna see him race, I think if he went to Europe it breath a new life into him and the MX GP's or it could make a funny movie JLaw destroys Europe lol
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Motodave 5/30/2009 8:55pm
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The ama and alot of people dont like him....Imagine if he was leading the race and jumped on the red and white flag like grant...you guys and the ama would probably banish him to madagascar or some shit....Anyway since he didnt even come close to a hole shot why black flag him.. i say total bs.. it has to be super fucking easy to wheelie up and ovr the gate and be that far in front of alessi to black flag him..Come on ama use ur fucking heads.

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WhKnuckle 5/30/2009 8:57pm
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Motodave wrote:
The ama and alot of people dont like him....Imagine if he was leading the race and jumped on the red and white flag like grant...you guys...
The ama and alot of people dont like him....Imagine if he was leading the race and jumped on the red and white flag like grant...you guys and the ama would probably banish him to madagascar or some shit....Anyway since he didnt even come close to a hole shot why black flag him.. i say total bs.. it has to be super fucking easy to wheelie up and ovr the gate and be that far in front of alessi to black flag him..Come on ama use ur fucking heads.
What do you have against Madagascar?

Face it, the dumbass broke the rules and got punished. There's no story here.
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Wolfman 5/30/2009 9:02pm
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WhKnuckle wrote:
What do you have against Madagascar?

Face it, the dumbass broke the rules and got punished. There's no story here.
True. Repeat offenders get and deserve stiffer penalties. Why can some people not see that?
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todder 5/30/2009 9:11pm
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No doubt. He has every offical watching his every move. He brought that on himself.
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Ozzy 5/30/2009 9:12pm
5/30/2009 9:12pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 12:11am
Sure, rules are rules, yet I hear he waited after
jumping the gate for ALL to pass by.Shocked
If true, then again, a bad call.
If true, seems even Steven to me regardless.........
If it was anyone else & if the waiting part is so,
I believe no black flag would have flown!
BAD CALL....!Angry
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calimxer91 5/30/2009 9:22pm
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Always something.UH.He said the only way the Bills get paid is if he races,looks like he could get evicted.
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LIVEWIRE 5/30/2009 9:30pm
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I don’t know guys about all this negativity; he did pretty well actually, getting closer to winning one of these things.
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oshow 5/30/2009 9:42pm
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WhKnuckle wrote:
When a rider is on probation, they have every right to black flag him for breaking any of the rules. Whether or not another rider would...
When a rider is on probation, they have every right to black flag him for breaking any of the rules. Whether or not another rider would have been black flagged isn't the point - any other rider with Lawrence's history probably would be.

I never knew a kid who got in trouble all the time who didn't think the authorities were picking on him.
oshow wrote:
Whatever, have you ever misjudged a gate drop?
WhKnuckle wrote:
Sure, I've even been tangled up in the rubber band start and that hurts like hell. But if a rider who's on probation breaks the rules...
Sure, I've even been tangled up in the rubber band start and that hurts like hell. But if a rider who's on probation breaks the rules, he's doing it to himself. Look at it like this, the AMA should have black flagged him at Daytona and they didn't, so Lawrence is way ahead of the game.
He was legal at Daytona, And maybe,,,,just maybe he wasn't trying to break the rules but was trying to get a good start.
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oshow 5/30/2009 9:45pm
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Ozzy wrote:
Sure, rules are rules, yet I hear he waited after jumping the gate for ALL to pass by.:ohmy: If true, then again, a bad call. If...
Sure, rules are rules, yet I hear he waited after
jumping the gate for ALL to pass by.Shocked
If true, then again, a bad call.
If true, seems even Steven to me regardless.........
If it was anyone else & if the waiting part is so,
I believe no black flag would have flown!
BAD CALL....!Angry
Dave O. Wink
Exactly
knowitallnovice 5/30/2009 10:44pm
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Ozzy wrote:
Sure, rules are rules, yet I hear he waited after jumping the gate for ALL to pass by.:ohmy: If true, then again, a bad call. If...
Sure, rules are rules, yet I hear he waited after
jumping the gate for ALL to pass by.Shocked
If true, then again, a bad call.
If true, seems even Steven to me regardless.........
If it was anyone else & if the waiting part is so,
I believe no black flag would have flown!
BAD CALL....!Angry
Dave O. Wink
oshow wrote:
Exactly
Bring back Whitelock the waffler!
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JB 19 5/30/2009 10:53pm
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LIVEWIRE wrote:
I don’t know guys about all this negativity; he did pretty well actually, getting closer to winning one of these things.
Getting closer by making the starting gate? I think you are being sacastic, but not sure.Whistling

As someone else stated, it really sucks for all the people who are getting their time and money wasted because of this guy.
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the_wood109 5/30/2009 11:22pm
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Tiki wrote:
He is making it really had to be a fan of his.
hard even
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the_wood109 5/30/2009 11:23pm
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well..he did get a bunch of airtime.
MattyVicious 5/30/2009 11:28pm
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Fuck all that, the AMA just hates him. They fuck him no matter what he does. They need to stop messing with him. The more people bag on him, the more I like him. They need to just let it go. If he could pull this shit all together, he would be killing it. Look at all the evidence, Daytona.... The kid is the real deal. He just needs a little luck on his side.

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shaner708 5/30/2009 11:52pm
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WhKnuckle wrote:
Section 3.14(a) in the AMA rulebook says, "Jumping or fouling the starting gate may result in a penatly or disqualification." Just to clear that up. [url=http://www.amaproracing.com/assets/MX_Rules_2009.pdf]AMA...
Section 3.14(a) in the AMA rulebook says, "Jumping or fouling the starting gate may result in a penatly or disqualification." Just to clear that up.

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Well how do they decide if a rider should be penalized or disqualified?
MichaelAAntonovich57 5/31/2009 12:05am
5/31/2009 12:05am Edited Date/Time 5/31/2009 12:05am
WhKnuckle wrote:
Section 3.14(a) in the AMA rulebook says, "Jumping or fouling the starting gate may result in a penatly or disqualification." Just to clear that up. [url=http://www.amaproracing.com/assets/MX_Rules_2009.pdf]AMA...
Section 3.14(a) in the AMA rulebook says, "Jumping or fouling the starting gate may result in a penatly or disqualification." Just to clear that up.

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shaner708 wrote:
Well how do they decide if a rider should be penalized or disqualified?
By how much money his team has and the amount of bitching his team manager will do.
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Ozzy wrote:
Sure, rules are rules, yet I hear he waited after jumping the gate for ALL to pass by.:ohmy: If true, then again, a bad call. If...
Sure, rules are rules, yet I hear he waited after
jumping the gate for ALL to pass by.Shocked
If true, then again, a bad call.
If true, seems even Steven to me regardless.........
If it was anyone else & if the waiting part is so,
I believe no black flag would have flown!
BAD CALL....!Angry
Dave O. Wink
That's some messed up logic right there.

If some guys rob a bank.... injure 10 people...take 1 million bucks...then decide, instead of taking off to Mexico, to stop and take care of the 10 people and give the money back..

Then no jail time for them right?

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

sbarrington314 5/31/2009 6:36am
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shaner708 wrote:
Well how do they decide if a rider should be penalized or disqualified?
if his name is jlaw or not.
sbarrington314 5/31/2009 6:37am
5/31/2009 6:37am
how big of an advantage did one get with this gate jumping?
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toroP 5/31/2009 8:21am
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There is video of that start on the post show
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jimmie 5/31/2009 9:01am
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MattyVicious wrote:
Fuck all that, the AMA just hates him. They fuck him no matter what he does. They need to stop messing with him. The more people...
Fuck all that, the AMA just hates him. They fuck him no matter what he does. They need to stop messing with him. The more people bag on him, the more I like him. They need to just let it go. If he could pull this shit all together, he would be killing it. Look at all the evidence, Daytona.... The kid is the real deal. He just needs a little luck on his side.
Yeah "they" need to stop messing with him."
One: He has lots of talent
Two: He is an awesome rider
But to blame everyone else on on his "bad luck" is denial.
Typical mind thought of the day..........it's always somebody else's fault.
Own up to the choices we make in life, people!
Goat Kreations 5/31/2009 9:06am
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toroP wrote:
There is video of that start on the [url=http://www.allisports.com/videos/racer-x-450-post-show-0]post show[/url]
There is video of that start on the post show
Yep, check out the very end of the video. I was filming right beside him when he did that. Totally took me by surprise.
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WhKnuckle wrote:
Section 3.14(a) in the AMA rulebook says, "Jumping or fouling the starting gate may result in a penatly or disqualification." Just to clear that up. [url=http://www.amaproracing.com/assets/MX_Rules_2009.pdf]AMA...
Section 3.14(a) in the AMA rulebook says, "Jumping or fouling the starting gate may result in a penatly or disqualification." Just to clear that up.

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There it is, nuff said!
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toroP wrote:
There is video of that start on the [url=http://www.allisports.com/videos/racer-x-450-post-show-0]post show[/url]
There is video of that start on the post show
Man he jumped the gate by at least 3 seconds
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mxjef 5/31/2009 9:19pm
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That was bullshit to black flag him, looks like he tried to time the gate and left early. Normally the gate would stop someone but he got over it, he looks over and see's that no one else has gone yet, slows up and lets everyone go by. If he would have continued on the gas to the first turn then I could understand black flagging him.
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MXR 5/31/2009 9:28pm
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Maybe Jason was just tripping on acid and he just tought the gate was moving .

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