that 450 main was insane!

6/7/2020 7:30pm
BS12 wrote:
Anyone notice Webb's demeanor right after the race after they came off the track? Helmet dropped on the ground, head in his handlebars. He was either...
Anyone notice Webb's demeanor right after the race after they came off the track? Helmet dropped on the ground, head in his handlebars. He was either completely smoked or completely deflated. Or likely, both.

What a race.
kkawboy14 wrote:
He was smoked and thinking: “I threw everything I had at this guy, almost died 3 times and he still beat me?”
I don’t think Cooper thinks that way. He would blame his own mistakes before he said someone was faster than him.
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6/7/2020 7:35pm
gregyou wrote:
Webb is going to dominate once tomac goes
Ozy wrote:
I think we are going to see AC9 and CW3 in some epic battles.
gregyou wrote:
Ac will not have the consistency to hang with Webb.
Adam looked a lot better in his rookie campaign than Webb did in 450s.
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1down5up wrote:
wow. a bit ago it showed 42 seconds behind webb. thats crazy.
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stangkag wrote:
Dang , thanks for posting that link. Crazy they lapped up to 4th Crazy Barcia was the only one even close to ET3 and CW1 when...
Dang , thanks for posting that link. Crazy they lapped up to 4th

Crazy Barcia was the only one even close to ET3 and CW1 when it comes to fastest lap time.

Dudes were on it today, what an awesome show of grit and talent!

Your Barcia comment seemed odd after watching the race so I looked up the fast laps from the 450 main.

9 guys turned a faster lap than Barcia in the 450 main.

1. Tomac 50.927
2. Webb 51.647
3. Anderson 52.111
4. Osborne 52.195
5. Roczen 52.927
6. Stewart 53.691
7. Bagget 54.469
8. Bloss 54.481
9. Plessinger 54.510
10. Barcia 54.727
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6/7/2020 8:34pm
1down5up wrote:
stangkag wrote:
Dang , thanks for posting that link. Crazy they lapped up to 4th Crazy Barcia was the only one even close to ET3 and CW1 when...
Dang , thanks for posting that link. Crazy they lapped up to 4th

Crazy Barcia was the only one even close to ET3 and CW1 when it comes to fastest lap time.

Dudes were on it today, what an awesome show of grit and talent!

DownSouth wrote:
Your Barcia comment seemed odd after watching the race so I looked up the fast laps from the 450 main. 9 guys turned a faster lap...
Your Barcia comment seemed odd after watching the race so I looked up the fast laps from the 450 main.

9 guys turned a faster lap than Barcia in the 450 main.

1. Tomac 50.927
2. Webb 51.647
3. Anderson 52.111
4. Osborne 52.195
5. Roczen 52.927
6. Stewart 53.691
7. Bagget 54.469
8. Bloss 54.481
9. Plessinger 54.510
10. Barcia 54.727
Wow im an idiot, my phone wasnt showing the full screen haha. You're right , I was looking at last lap and didn't realize it. Thanks
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6/7/2020 9:21pm
BS12 wrote:
Anyone notice Webb's demeanor right after the race after they came off the track? Helmet dropped on the ground, head in his handlebars. He was either...
Anyone notice Webb's demeanor right after the race after they came off the track? Helmet dropped on the ground, head in his handlebars. He was either completely smoked or completely deflated. Or likely, both.

What a race.
kkawboy14 wrote:
He was smoked and thinking: “I threw everything I had at this guy, almost died 3 times and he still beat me?”
It’s not often Webb’s grit doesn’t get him the win. He’s pulled out that race craft many a times and has always came out the winner. Today was a crazy good race between them and Webb probably thought he had it.
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6/7/2020 9:28pm
BS12 wrote:
Anyone notice Webb's demeanor right after the race after they came off the track? Helmet dropped on the ground, head in his handlebars. He was either...
Anyone notice Webb's demeanor right after the race after they came off the track? Helmet dropped on the ground, head in his handlebars. He was either completely smoked or completely deflated. Or likely, both.

What a race.
kkawboy14 wrote:
He was smoked and thinking: “I threw everything I had at this guy, almost died 3 times and he still beat me?”
I don’t think Cooper thinks that way. He would blame his own mistakes before he said someone was faster than him.
He doesn't need to say it, we all saw it.
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6/7/2020 9:29pm
BS12 wrote:
Anyone notice Webb's demeanor right after the race after they came off the track? Helmet dropped on the ground, head in his handlebars. He was either...
Anyone notice Webb's demeanor right after the race after they came off the track? Helmet dropped on the ground, head in his handlebars. He was either completely smoked or completely deflated. Or likely, both.

What a race.
kkawboy14 wrote:
He was smoked and thinking: “I threw everything I had at this guy, almost died 3 times and he still beat me?”
It’s not often Webb’s grit doesn’t get him the win. He’s pulled out that race craft many a times and has always came out the winner...
It’s not often Webb’s grit doesn’t get him the win. He’s pulled out that race craft many a times and has always came out the winner. Today was a crazy good race between them and Webb probably thought he had it.
That was next level stuff the two of them put out there today. Almost lapped Anderson who has been 'on it' right? Wow!

You don't see that level of performance often. Two guys solid as a rock.
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6/7/2020 9:34pm
DownSouth wrote:
Your Barcia comment seemed odd after watching the race so I looked up the fast laps from the 450 main. 9 guys turned a faster lap...
Your Barcia comment seemed odd after watching the race so I looked up the fast laps from the 450 main.

9 guys turned a faster lap than Barcia in the 450 main.

1. Tomac 50.927
2. Webb 51.647
3. Anderson 52.111
4. Osborne 52.195
5. Roczen 52.927
6. Stewart 53.691
7. Bagget 54.469
8. Bloss 54.481
9. Plessinger 54.510
10. Barcia 54.727
We learned a couple of things today...

1) Tomac and Webb have a level the rest of them don't.

2) Barcia must think he will have done something great for the sport if he breaks Tomac's leg like he did Bowers. What is wrong with that guy? And then he runs around mid-pack. Why, Justin, why do you do these things? Your legacy of hitting people after they pass you is already secure.

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6/7/2020 9:40pm
Cooper is as gritty as they come. Such an old school never quit mindset. What a race. Feel bad for Ken...wonder how post race team meeting went in the Honda rig. And how about Mookie!!!
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6/7/2020 9:44pm
DownSouth wrote:
Your Barcia comment seemed odd after watching the race so I looked up the fast laps from the 450 main. 9 guys turned a faster lap...
Your Barcia comment seemed odd after watching the race so I looked up the fast laps from the 450 main.

9 guys turned a faster lap than Barcia in the 450 main.

1. Tomac 50.927
2. Webb 51.647
3. Anderson 52.111
4. Osborne 52.195
5. Roczen 52.927
6. Stewart 53.691
7. Bagget 54.469
8. Bloss 54.481
9. Plessinger 54.510
10. Barcia 54.727
kpiper wrote:
We learned a couple of things today... 1) Tomac and Webb have a level the rest of them don't. 2) Barcia must think he will have...
We learned a couple of things today...

1) Tomac and Webb have a level the rest of them don't.

2) Barcia must think he will have done something great for the sport if he breaks Tomac's leg like he did Bowers. What is wrong with that guy? And then he runs around mid-pack. Why, Justin, why do you do these things? Your legacy of hitting people after they pass you is already secure.

😂😂😂 I bet if they interviewed him it wouldve been tomacs fault or he did nothing.
They need to have a serious chat with him about that shit.
There’s a block pass then there is what he does
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6/7/2020 9:46pm
Amazing race, best of the year maybe? Or Daytona. Incredible.

Sucks to see Ken get lapped like that though (twice?)
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6/7/2020 9:55pm
So much fun. I love the races between Eli and Webb because I get the impression that Eli doesn't trust Webb like he does Roczen. It forces Eli to absolutely rail the next turn when he thinks Webb is going to block him. His incredible balance in the corners was on full display tonight.
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6/7/2020 10:00pm Edited Date/Time 6/7/2020 10:00pm
Those two riders are bad ass, nothing more to it. They went 110% for every lap on a crazy sketchy track. Hats off!
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6/7/2020 10:38pm
That was incredible. Imagine how insane it would have been in that stadium if fans were there. Tomac is so solid this year. Webb is a gamer from hell. I wonder how many more times Tomac will fight that hard for a win. To crash and blow it now would be tragic as f. What a race.
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6/7/2020 11:01pm
Monte122 wrote:
Webb is the real deal, props to Tomac.
I can see the passing of the torch in the near future!
Eli has 10 years left at the highest level if he wants.
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6/7/2020 11:26pm Edited Date/Time 6/7/2020 11:27pm
DownSouth wrote:
Your Barcia comment seemed odd after watching the race so I looked up the fast laps from the 450 main. 9 guys turned a faster lap...
Your Barcia comment seemed odd after watching the race so I looked up the fast laps from the 450 main.

9 guys turned a faster lap than Barcia in the 450 main.

1. Tomac 50.927
2. Webb 51.647
3. Anderson 52.111
4. Osborne 52.195
5. Roczen 52.927
6. Stewart 53.691
7. Bagget 54.469
8. Bloss 54.481
9. Plessinger 54.510
10. Barcia 54.727
kpiper wrote:
We learned a couple of things today... 1) Tomac and Webb have a level the rest of them don't. 2) Barcia must think he will have...
We learned a couple of things today...

1) Tomac and Webb have a level the rest of them don't.

2) Barcia must think he will have done something great for the sport if he breaks Tomac's leg like he did Bowers. What is wrong with that guy? And then he runs around mid-pack. Why, Justin, why do you do these things? Your legacy of hitting people after they pass you is already secure.

gregyou wrote:
😂😂😂 I bet if they interviewed him it wouldve been tomacs fault or he did nothing. They need to have a serious chat with him about...
😂😂😂 I bet if they interviewed him it wouldve been tomacs fault or he did nothing.
They need to have a serious chat with him about that shit.
There’s a block pass then there is what he does
I can't wait for their next argument. "I literally lapped you twice the other day."
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6/8/2020 3:01am
chadder44 wrote:
So much fun. I love the races between Eli and Webb because I get the impression that Eli doesn't trust Webb like he does Roczen. It...
So much fun. I love the races between Eli and Webb because I get the impression that Eli doesn't trust Webb like he does Roczen. It forces Eli to absolutely rail the next turn when he thinks Webb is going to block him. His incredible balance in the corners was on full display tonight.
Why would he trust him? Ken races super clean and if Webb wants to make a pass he just moves the guy in front of him.

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6/8/2020 4:41am
One of the most exciting races I have seen in a while. Webb and Tomac put on a show...
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6/8/2020 4:46am
Who’s watched the post race interview yet?
It was funny hearing Webb talk about barcia trying to take tomac out
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6/8/2020 4:51am
Webb put everything into that main. He was almost in tears on the podium. He wanted that win bad. His confidence looked crushed. Unlike when he did it to Ken in the last lap. Best main in a long time. Tomac brought it.
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6/8/2020 5:31am
There hasn't been a rider that has turned around a freshman and sophomore slump like Webb has done in well over a decade or more. Has anyone ever done that? He looked like he was going to do what so many 250sx champs have done which is come in and be a 5-15 place rider for the rest of their career. That's a lot of mental strength to do what he did.

Glad Eli pushed for the W. He had the cards fall the right way as far as lappers late in the race which only helped him. Both guys efforts are way appreciated. That race would have been a snoozer if one or the other weren't there.

I wonder if part of Tomac's motivation was to get that 25+ point cushion. There's no telling when a bike malfunction can hit or when a getoff will result in a DNF. I imagine he really wanted that cushion so that he could have the "ace in the hole" one race earlier.
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6/8/2020 5:53am
DownSouth wrote:
Your Barcia comment seemed odd after watching the race so I looked up the fast laps from the 450 main. 9 guys turned a faster lap...
Your Barcia comment seemed odd after watching the race so I looked up the fast laps from the 450 main.

9 guys turned a faster lap than Barcia in the 450 main.

1. Tomac 50.927
2. Webb 51.647
3. Anderson 52.111
4. Osborne 52.195
5. Roczen 52.927
6. Stewart 53.691
7. Bagget 54.469
8. Bloss 54.481
9. Plessinger 54.510
10. Barcia 54.727
kpiper wrote:
We learned a couple of things today... 1) Tomac and Webb have a level the rest of them don't. 2) Barcia must think he will have...
We learned a couple of things today...

1) Tomac and Webb have a level the rest of them don't.

2) Barcia must think he will have done something great for the sport if he breaks Tomac's leg like he did Bowers. What is wrong with that guy? And then he runs around mid-pack. Why, Justin, why do you do these things? Your legacy of hitting people after they pass you is already secure.

Amen
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IWreckALot wrote:
There hasn't been a rider that has turned around a freshman and sophomore slump like Webb has done in well over a decade or more. Has...
There hasn't been a rider that has turned around a freshman and sophomore slump like Webb has done in well over a decade or more. Has anyone ever done that? He looked like he was going to do what so many 250sx champs have done which is come in and be a 5-15 place rider for the rest of their career. That's a lot of mental strength to do what he did.

Glad Eli pushed for the W. He had the cards fall the right way as far as lappers late in the race which only helped him. Both guys efforts are way appreciated. That race would have been a snoozer if one or the other weren't there.

I wonder if part of Tomac's motivation was to get that 25+ point cushion. There's no telling when a bike malfunction can hit or when a getoff will result in a DNF. I imagine he really wanted that cushion so that he could have the "ace in the hole" one race earlier.
Didn’t Tomac struggle his first 2 years also?
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gregyou wrote:
😂😂😂 I bet if they interviewed him it wouldve been tomacs fault or he did nothing. They need to have a serious chat with him about...
😂😂😂 I bet if they interviewed him it wouldve been tomacs fault or he did nothing.
They need to have a serious chat with him about that shit.
There’s a block pass then there is what he does
Where did barcia go at tomac? Going to have to watch that epic race again!
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6/8/2020 7:13am
gregyou wrote:
😂😂😂 I bet if they interviewed him it wouldve been tomacs fault or he did nothing. They need to have a serious chat with him about...
😂😂😂 I bet if they interviewed him it wouldve been tomacs fault or he did nothing.
They need to have a serious chat with him about that shit.
There’s a block pass then there is what he does
Grenader26 wrote:
Where did barcia go at tomac? Going to have to watch that epic race again!
When Tomac passed him happens almost every time he gets passed by Tomac.
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Ozy wrote:
I think we are going to see AC9 and CW3 in some epic battles.
gregyou wrote:
Ac will not have the consistency to hang with Webb.
Adam looked a lot better in his rookie campaign than Webb did in 450s.
Adam fan here, but ac needs to learn to calm down and chill. He has more raw speed than webb no doubt. Hes like tomac. Just needs to realize its useless if hes getting injured every year. Maybe ac needs a big dose of CBD oil before each race to relax a little.
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6/8/2020 7:48am Edited Date/Time 6/8/2020 7:54am
Monte122 wrote:
Webb is the real deal, props to Tomac.
I can see the passing of the torch in the near future!
Momus wrote:
Eli has 10 years left at the highest level if he wants.
You know he‘s 27 right?
6/8/2020 8:27am
kkawboy14 wrote:
He was smoked and thinking: “I threw everything I had at this guy, almost died 3 times and he still beat me?”
I don’t think Cooper thinks that way. He would blame his own mistakes before he said someone was faster than him.
He doesn't need to say it, we all saw it.
The fact that he wouldn’t is telling. I like that about him. In his head he will always be the amateur racer that nobody paid any mind to. Even with the number 1 plate and a KTM ride he’s an underdog with junkyard dog fight in him.

He was a lapper away from passing Tomac back and some of y’all act like Tomac was out cruising and could have turned it up had he needed to. That’s not what I saw. And I like both riders.
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6/8/2020 8:28am
You guys are Webb haters. He has the best mindset in all of motocross. Nothin wrong with a little shit talk
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