PulpMX vs Whiskey Throttle

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Quad gate has saved us during this quarantine much like Tiger King did. God Bless PulpMX
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What episode number was quad gate, I can’t find it
show 421. Around the 2hr 20min mark I believe.
When the quad guy was on with Brayton I was literally in tears and my stomach hurt. That's the funniest shit I've heard in a long, long time. It was like stumbling onto a tailgate conversation where you're just like "wtf?"
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youre all on crack if you think pulp is better than whiskey throttle on deep content.
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I don't see the logic behind comparing them? They're two different concepts like some have mentioned.

I have so much different podcasts to listen to so i stick with what Steve produces, that covers basically everything i need regarding the moto world.
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big.dos wrote:
Whiskey would be great if GL backed it down a bit
J-Wishbone wrote:
This Love both shows but GL stops me getting excited too much when I see a new episode up. They do get the best guests in...
This

Love both shows but GL stops me getting excited too much when I see a new episode up.

They do get the best guests in my opinion,but I just know Ping will carry the show and ask great questions,BUT GL will interrupt the guest 99% of the time with his own stories or answers to the question.

Dont get me wrong I think GL is a hell of a rider and great character,but PLEASE let the GUEST answer the questions they are asked.
Ping comes up with good questions and gets the guests to open up,he is great at this,but GL spoils most of these questions,cutting off the guests with his own answers and stories has just got old for me now Im afraid

Sorry Ping,not a dig at you buddy,but Im finding them harder to listen to,which is a shame because as I said earlier you score the best guests.
I have 3 or 4 ready to listen to,but keep putting them off.The Henry one for me was too painful,we only got half of Doug's answers and alot of GL stories.

Overall I rate Ping higher than Steve as a host,hes very intelligent,not as self absorbed or opinionated,which makes for better shows.I think he has a long career in this type of work and could become much bigger

I agree with everthing you've just said. I'd be keen t listen to a Whiskey Throttle show with just Ping as the host. Or get producer Donny up there. He was great when he co-hosted once and seems to have an endless supply of knowledge.
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5/9/2020 3:59am
Apples and oranges. If you dont like one, dont listen. I cant remember ever being forced to keep listening to an episode i didn't like.

Pulp is more of a funny vibe and that has a lot of inside jokes and comedy.

Mixed bag show format
To me the comparison is pulpmx vs dmxs vs main event.

Whiskey throttle is the more serious deep dive

Long form format
Whiskey throttle vs steve matthes show vs gypsy tales
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I’ve never understood the hate for GL during their podcasts. I love listening to him butt in and tell stories. Maybe it’s his dreamy half hammered accent, or just the stories he tells, I don’t know, but it makes the conversation more genuine and less like a scripted interview. I love everything about the WT show the same way I enjoy everything Pulp. Everytime these guys post a new show I get excited, except for the coach Robb guy, I had enough of his full court podcast press. Just kidding Coach, I appreciate you too I guess.
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Can’t wait to see how bent out of shape ping gets after seeing this!! Let’s not forget guys, ping talked shit about us “vitards” for years...
Can’t wait to see how bent out of shape ping gets after seeing this!! Let’s not forget guys, ping talked shit about us “vitards” for years on various videos, articles, pods, etc. Now he relies on us vital users to give him clicks on his weekly segments.

Regarding the two shows, pulpmx is just can’t miss content week after week. It has tons of comedic value as well. Whiskey throttle is great too! But I would put it into a different category. Usually only listen when I’ve ran out of pulp shows to listen too though.
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I can't really find ping at fault for talking shit about us vitards to be honest, at times is this place is something else 😂
If there was no Dumgeon, than Ping would be wrong. Vital recognizes its own dumbshiet.
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I’ve never understood the hate for GL during their podcasts. I love listening to him butt in and tell stories. Maybe it’s his dreamy half hammered...
I’ve never understood the hate for GL during their podcasts. I love listening to him butt in and tell stories. Maybe it’s his dreamy half hammered accent, or just the stories he tells, I don’t know, but it makes the conversation more genuine and less like a scripted interview. I love everything about the WT show the same way I enjoy everything Pulp. Everytime these guys post a new show I get excited, except for the coach Robb guy, I had enough of his full court podcast press. Just kidding Coach, I appreciate you too I guess.
Please tell me you're a chick.....describing GL's voice as "dreamy". LOL.

Your point on him making the show more of a conversation....that's what I've been saying. Just guys sitting around bs'ing, reminiscing.

I'll say it again...Ping/Grant...don't change a thing. The show is working.

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crowe176 wrote:
I’ve never understood the hate for GL during their podcasts. I love listening to him butt in and tell stories. Maybe it’s his dreamy half hammered...
I’ve never understood the hate for GL during their podcasts. I love listening to him butt in and tell stories. Maybe it’s his dreamy half hammered accent, or just the stories he tells, I don’t know, but it makes the conversation more genuine and less like a scripted interview. I love everything about the WT show the same way I enjoy everything Pulp. Everytime these guys post a new show I get excited, except for the coach Robb guy, I had enough of his full court podcast press. Just kidding Coach, I appreciate you too I guess.
Please tell me you're a chick.....describing GL's voice as "dreamy". LOL. Your point on him making the show more of a conversation....that's what I've been saying...
Please tell me you're a chick.....describing GL's voice as "dreamy". LOL.

Your point on him making the show more of a conversation....that's what I've been saying. Just guys sitting around bs'ing, reminiscing.

I'll say it again...Ping/Grant...don't change a thing. The show is working.

Haha, I’d never let my wife talk to GL that’s for sure.
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both awesome....mathes talks over all his guests before they finish their stories....grant gets saucy and makes it fun....ping is an unsong hero that we have all come to love
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I really wanted to hear the Pingree podcast.

I was really disappointed. . .

Not because of Pingree. . . But it turned into the Grant Langston show. . .

He had to top every Ping story. . . I wish ping would do another, so much left to talk about .

"When I was racing . . ." GL

I like GL. . . but it's not the GL show....
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PING FTW
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DMXS all day, Kevin and David always having a laugh. WT is pretty good too. Pulp too long, Steve just takes himself so seriously these days and is rarely self deprecating, makes himself the center of everything rather than letting the interviewee be the focal point.
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Listen to both. Impressive what the WTS has done right out of the gate. A rising tide floats all boats and Steve adding the cameras is evidence of that.

The not so behind the scenes political disagreements between Ping and Steve are a sign of the times and unfortunate that it can’t be civil. I love a good debate but these days it gets personal quickly.
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ktmwoods wrote:
DMXS all day, Kevin and David always having a laugh. WT is pretty good too. Pulp too long, Steve just takes himself so seriously these days...
DMXS all day, Kevin and David always having a laugh. WT is pretty good too. Pulp too long, Steve just takes himself so seriously these days and is rarely self deprecating, makes himself the center of everything rather than letting the interviewee be the focal point.
Agree the show is too long. A lot of what Steve does is his shtick for entertainment. He borrowed a page from Stern. I’m ok with that. *shrug*
5/20/2020 11:18am Edited Date/Time 5/20/2020 11:18am
Just finished Pulp's 12 minute rant on this and it has brought me here -
As mentioned, both shows are entirely different. Both legit in their own way.

Can anyone shed light on a short version of Ping's political views?, as I don't play with Twatter. I'm guessing they fall in line with mine (cough plandemic) , or maybe I am way off, but Mathes has some valid points. Politics shouldn't define us or ruin friendships, even though it's a difficult time right now and we all have strong differing opinions.

I'm just super stoked Whiskey got rid of that buttrock intro song.by Volbeat? (I googled buttrock bands and figured out their name) Nails on a chalkboard with that shit.



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Discussing the merits of one podcast host's politics vs. another's? Are we really that bored?
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GuyB wrote:
Discussing the merits of one podcast host's politics vs. another's? Are we really that bored?
Just trying to understand what got Ping kicked off Twitter.
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GuyB wrote:
Discussing the merits of one podcast host's politics vs. another's? Are we really that bored?
Just trying to understand what got Ping kicked off Twitter.
I'm a conservative, socially and fiscally. Twitter is the one platform where I delve into the political world, so if you don't want to see political tweets, i do not recommend following me. My IG account, much like our show, is completely devoid of politics. We all get enough of it from everywhere else. Although Steve likes to imply that I'm something worse than a white supremacist, I got warned and then kicked off Twitter for conservative posts... nothing more. If you don't think they are shadow banning folks with conservative messaging, particularly around election time, you aren't paying attention.

Regarding this thread, there really is no comparison between the two shows; they are very different. That show is more of a TMZ for the moto community and we are more of a JRE... without the elk hunting and DMT trips. Our show is YouTube focused, with show numbers as high as 87k views, and theirs is podcast directed. He's started putting up GoPro camera footage, but it isn't edited or shot in a finished studio like ours is. And their show is getting between 5k and 10k views, so although he runs his mouth about numbers, from a viewing metric, it's not even close. He also likes to point out that watching for as little as ten second counts as a view... but our average view time is 45 minutes and we have over 90 million minutes of view time since we started. And if you subscribe to a podcast, even if you don't listen to an episode, it counts as a download. So, I prefer the YouTube view time metric for our sponsors because it is absolute.

Here's the takeaway, guys... you don't have to pick a team. Both shows are good moto entertainment and you don't have to pick a side.


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5/20/2020 8:36pm Edited Date/Time 5/21/2020 5:53am
GuyB wrote:
Discussing the merits of one podcast host's politics vs. another's? Are we really that bored?
Just trying to understand what got Ping kicked off Twitter.
I'm a conservative, socially and fiscally. Twitter is the one platform where I delve into the political world, so if you don't want to see political...
I'm a conservative, socially and fiscally. Twitter is the one platform where I delve into the political world, so if you don't want to see political tweets, i do not recommend following me. My IG account, much like our show, is completely devoid of politics. We all get enough of it from everywhere else. Although Steve likes to imply that I'm something worse than a white supremacist, I got warned and then kicked off Twitter for conservative posts... nothing more. If you don't think they are shadow banning folks with conservative messaging, particularly around election time, you aren't paying attention.

Regarding this thread, there really is no comparison between the two shows; they are very different. That show is more of a TMZ for the moto community and we are more of a JRE... without the elk hunting and DMT trips. Our show is YouTube focused, with show numbers as high as 87k views, and theirs is podcast directed. He's started putting up GoPro camera footage, but it isn't edited or shot in a finished studio like ours is. And their show is getting between 5k and 10k views, so although he runs his mouth about numbers, from a viewing metric, it's not even close. He also likes to point out that watching for as little as ten second counts as a view... but our average view time is 45 minutes and we have over 90 million minutes of view time since we started. And if you subscribe to a podcast, even if you don't listen to an episode, it counts as a download. So, I prefer the YouTube view time metric for our sponsors because it is absolute.

Here's the takeaway, guys... you don't have to pick a team. Both shows are good moto entertainment and you don't have to pick a side.


A few little sneaky digs there Ping. I feel like calling the pulp show "TMZ for the moto community" is a bit rough, its a quality show that is generally light hearted, but also covers the serious aspects of the sport. They aren't talking about bloody wives and girlfriends.
And whilst I think their Pulp YouTube is definitely inspired by your show (so credit to you there), Pulp has also done that pretty well, it’s a good production, multiple cameras, good lighting, very similar to the JRE in which you compared your show to. Saying it is just "GoPro footage" is not really fair.
I wonder if you thought it was TMZ when you were a regular co-host?

It seems a shame that you guys have had a falling out over politics and podcasts. But you both (equally in my opinion) seem like you are being dicks about it, taking shots at each other on social media, forums and your shows.
Have either of you picked up the phone to try and hash it out? actually who cares. A rising tide floats all boats, its great to have lots of quality content out there. and not everyone needs to be friends. But lets not all fight like 15 year old girls either.


I agree with the last statement, there is no need to pick a side, and I genuinely enjoy both shows, the more content the merrier.
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Who the fuck has time to watch a YouTube video version of a podcast?! Not me that’s for sure!
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GuyB wrote:
Discussing the merits of one podcast host's politics vs. another's? Are we really that bored?
Just trying to understand what got Ping kicked off Twitter.
I'm a conservative, socially and fiscally. Twitter is the one platform where I delve into the political world, so if you don't want to see political...
I'm a conservative, socially and fiscally. Twitter is the one platform where I delve into the political world, so if you don't want to see political tweets, i do not recommend following me. My IG account, much like our show, is completely devoid of politics. We all get enough of it from everywhere else. Although Steve likes to imply that I'm something worse than a white supremacist, I got warned and then kicked off Twitter for conservative posts... nothing more. If you don't think they are shadow banning folks with conservative messaging, particularly around election time, you aren't paying attention.

Regarding this thread, there really is no comparison between the two shows; they are very different. That show is more of a TMZ for the moto community and we are more of a JRE... without the elk hunting and DMT trips. Our show is YouTube focused, with show numbers as high as 87k views, and theirs is podcast directed. He's started putting up GoPro camera footage, but it isn't edited or shot in a finished studio like ours is. And their show is getting between 5k and 10k views, so although he runs his mouth about numbers, from a viewing metric, it's not even close. He also likes to point out that watching for as little as ten second counts as a view... but our average view time is 45 minutes and we have over 90 million minutes of view time since we started. And if you subscribe to a podcast, even if you don't listen to an episode, it counts as a download. So, I prefer the YouTube view time metric for our sponsors because it is absolute.

Here's the takeaway, guys... you don't have to pick a team. Both shows are good moto entertainment and you don't have to pick a side.


" That show is more of a TMZ"

what a douchebag thing to say, you do a great show, but id rather listen to pulpmx any day, as does the majority of the "moto community" judging by the slaughtering you are receiving in this poll

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Who the fuck has time to watch a YouTube video version of a podcast?! Not me that’s for sure!
Who the fuck has time to watch a YouTube video version of a podcast?! Not me that’s for sure!
I was thinking the same thing, you don't watch the radio do you!
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Just trying to understand what got Ping kicked off Twitter.
I'm a conservative, socially and fiscally. Twitter is the one platform where I delve into the political world, so if you don't want to see political...
I'm a conservative, socially and fiscally. Twitter is the one platform where I delve into the political world, so if you don't want to see political tweets, i do not recommend following me. My IG account, much like our show, is completely devoid of politics. We all get enough of it from everywhere else. Although Steve likes to imply that I'm something worse than a white supremacist, I got warned and then kicked off Twitter for conservative posts... nothing more. If you don't think they are shadow banning folks with conservative messaging, particularly around election time, you aren't paying attention.

Regarding this thread, there really is no comparison between the two shows; they are very different. That show is more of a TMZ for the moto community and we are more of a JRE... without the elk hunting and DMT trips. Our show is YouTube focused, with show numbers as high as 87k views, and theirs is podcast directed. He's started putting up GoPro camera footage, but it isn't edited or shot in a finished studio like ours is. And their show is getting between 5k and 10k views, so although he runs his mouth about numbers, from a viewing metric, it's not even close. He also likes to point out that watching for as little as ten second counts as a view... but our average view time is 45 minutes and we have over 90 million minutes of view time since we started. And if you subscribe to a podcast, even if you don't listen to an episode, it counts as a download. So, I prefer the YouTube view time metric for our sponsors because it is absolute.

Here's the takeaway, guys... you don't have to pick a team. Both shows are good moto entertainment and you don't have to pick a side.


cablecable wrote:
" That show is more of a TMZ" what a douchebag thing to say, you do a great show, but id rather listen to pulpmx any...
" That show is more of a TMZ"

what a douchebag thing to say, you do a great show, but id rather listen to pulpmx any day, as does the majority of the "moto community" judging by the slaughtering you are receiving in this poll

The only Pulp episodes I would ever skip over were the ones Ping were on.
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I for one love both shows, watch/listen to every episode. I'm not going to let someone's political beliefs change anything. Ping was an awesome rider in his day and I'm very grateful for him and GL providing us more content and in a different format. Steve is a cool guy and I love the Pulp format for what it is. Both contribute a lot to the Moto world and I thank them for that.
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Crush wrote:
Who the fuck has time to watch a YouTube video version of a podcast?! Not me that’s for sure!
Who the fuck has time to watch a YouTube video version of a podcast?! Not me that’s for sure!
That’s why we also offer the show in podcast form. Some folks enjoy watching it in segments at night, rather than a sitcom or what passes for news shows these days. The numbers back this up.
And To Tuna and the others who think I’m taking digs... just replying to Steve’s rant comments, which were way off base. We agreed on $420 because he was offering a flight and hotel plus the $100. I told him to forget the flight and hotel and just add that to my show fee. I either crashed on his couch or drove home after the show. But he didn’t mention that and twisted it to fit his narrative.
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Crush wrote:
Who the fuck has time to watch a YouTube video version of a podcast?! Not me that’s for sure!
Who the fuck has time to watch a YouTube video version of a podcast?! Not me that’s for sure!
That’s why we also offer the show in podcast form. Some folks enjoy watching it in segments at night, rather than a sitcom or what passes...
That’s why we also offer the show in podcast form. Some folks enjoy watching it in segments at night, rather than a sitcom or what passes for news shows these days. The numbers back this up.
And To Tuna and the others who think I’m taking digs... just replying to Steve’s rant comments, which were way off base. We agreed on $420 because he was offering a flight and hotel plus the $100. I told him to forget the flight and hotel and just add that to my show fee. I either crashed on his couch or drove home after the show. But he didn’t mention that and twisted it to fit his narrative.
No idea what you are referring to. I’m not a huge fan of yours on his show. Your on air persona never gelled with me personally. It’s really that simple man. I hated anytime Kenny Watson was on as well. Just didn’t like listening to him. You can’t please everyone as you know. We all have different tastes, opinions, biases etc. Hell, sometimes I think Steve is an idiot too but I will give him a pass because I enjoy him the majority of the time.
Ping, I do like and appreciate your long format, just don’t listen a lot as I have several favorite pods that take up most of my listening time.
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5/21/2020 10:11am Edited Date/Time 5/21/2020 10:36am
cablecable wrote:
" That show is more of a TMZ" what a douchebag thing to say, you do a great show, but id rather listen to pulpmx any...
" That show is more of a TMZ"

what a douchebag thing to say, you do a great show, but id rather listen to pulpmx any day, as does the majority of the "moto community" judging by the slaughtering you are receiving in this poll

Why is a TMZ comparison considered an all out slam? It's more and more of a compliment these days as many of their "broke the story" content has been credible. Sure, they miss here and there, but fans eat up rumor or gossip talk. In PULP's case, it's mostly been true. Steve's demeanor (and being perfectly connected within the industry) is a perfect match to deliver "TMZ" type content. There's horses for courses.

Some fans love it and some are turned off by it. No problem. As I've stated before, choice is good in the moto community. Win/Win.
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That’s why we also offer the show in podcast form. Some folks enjoy watching it in segments at night, rather than a sitcom or what passes...
That’s why we also offer the show in podcast form. Some folks enjoy watching it in segments at night, rather than a sitcom or what passes for news shows these days. The numbers back this up.
And To Tuna and the others who think I’m taking digs... just replying to Steve’s rant comments, which were way off base. We agreed on $420 because he was offering a flight and hotel plus the $100. I told him to forget the flight and hotel and just add that to my show fee. I either crashed on his couch or drove home after the show. But he didn’t mention that and twisted it to fit his narrative.
Replying in an open forum? Just call the guy and be the better man. For everyone that missed his rant, you've just let them know about it.
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