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They should ask for that factory 250 motor back.
The clip on the Katoom...all that free-riding was a "typical day in the hills" & I like his edit of the riding and terrain.
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BTW Cole, if you are planning to make a lot more videos and you want to step it up a notch get a gimbal for your GoPro or the buy an Osmo Pocket from DJI for all the handheld stuff. Makes a huge difference.
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The days of Corporations not paying attention to social media are long since over. Yes, all those old folk can push a few buttons and pull up all the metrics anyone could ever want. They see what is happening. Seely doesn't have the selling clout he thinks he has, despite all of his social media followers swinging from his nuts. Shame, because he seemed like such a down-to-earth and humble guy. I guess that's what happens when the hypebeast vibe get hold of you.
He rode for Honda his entire pro career, sure he only won 1 premier class main, but he was always a front runner represented himself and his brands well, was always good to the youth and fans! Guy lived and breathed racing and racing for Honda. After he retired he has bought every bike he has built. Purchased his 450L himself, his 110 himself and bought his straight rhythm 250 off craigslist, sure the race team got him that motor he used but he had to dial In himself. Corporate Honda lent him a 450r to ride for a little and then requested he purchase it at full price. If I was put in that position after 10 plus years with a brand that they simply couldn’t give you one used bike or at least give you a “deal” on it I’d be upset too.
With all that being said I don’t blame him for buying a KTM and seeing what all these other brands are about, why support a brand that doesnt want to support you anymore. I respect Cole for buying these bikes out of pocket building them and riding the hell out of them. Non of you keyboard warriors race supercross or could ever hold a candle stick to cole. Riding in the hills with your buddy’s, hitting the desert, ripping some single track and still motoring laps at the local track is what we all Like to do and that’s exactly what he’s doing with his retirement. Not looking to be a brand ambassador just looks like a guy that wants to build cool shit and ride fun stuff with some support from brand he raced his career for. In my mind this Cole is a hell of a lot more relatable and a lot mote fun to watch.
So how is that different to any other rider in the past? You sure as heck do not see them complaining about not getting freebies or deals from the brands they rode.
Also. Can we put some perspective on this, every industry (including Honda) are or will be going through significant financial hardship due to COVID-19, therefore perhaps what a company might of given before may not give now. Is that unreasonable given the current situation? No. For all we know (and no one here knows, I am speculating as well), that is why Cole is not getting what he thinks he deserves (?) from Honda.
I’m a fan of Seelys have always respected him as a rider and had to make an account and reply because this entire thread was just one big Seely bash. All I’m saying is There’s 2 sides to every story and I get where he’s coming from, I personally would be frustrated too. Im not even saying everything he thinks in this situation is right, agreed parts could have been handled better. Just saying I get it, there’s amateur riders on 85s out here getting more support from other brands then he is from Honda during retirement. People saying what he does with his social media isn’t good advertisement are insane, guy advertises bikes to over 500,000 people every single day, I feel like that’s probably worth a bike or 2.
Pit Row
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6UjQnubVJg
As an American Honda employee (for the last 21+ years) that just got furloughed I understand their decision to limit spending during these times. I'm hoping I still have a job and a paycheck when all this blows over...not worried about a free bike. I've worked with MC development, press, racing, etc. and understand how it works. Sure sometimes coverage warrants giving out product. Times are a little different right now.
I'm sure the other thousands of Honda employees that were furloughed as of today feel similar.
This is the perfect example of why Cole is acting like a entitled little prick , his free bike is the bottom of the list in the problem American Honda has at the moments
But honestly am I the only one that thinks this goes back prior to covid-19 considering all the bikes he’s talking about go back 6+ months???? He clearly stated hes purchased every bike post retirement out of pocket and the decision to purchase the KTM was strictly because he was able to purchase the KTM for cheaper then the Demo bike Honda want him to either purchase or give back?? I just don’t see what’s wrong with that. Seems like a pretty easy decision from a financial stand point, used Honda for more money or a new KTM for less....
As for sales of new/used units most OEMs have agreements like TeamGreen mentioned so they don't undercut their dealer network. Cole's bike would've most likely been considered used so a promotional sale usually at or under black book pricing so not sure how KTM is able to do a new bike for less. Not my job to know though....I'm not in sales
At the end of the day it is what it is. I've always had good dealings with Cole the little bit that I worked with him. I was out of that area when he was on the 450 so didn't see him much then. If he's able to get product at free or discounted pricing from other brands, it makes financial sense so I'd probably do the same!
I’m not a psychologist but to me he seems like a guy struggling with his identity and maybe a bit depressed about how it all ended. I hope he stays healthy and doesn’t go down a shitty road.
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