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Park Boys 3/8/2020 5:36pm
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Gajser needs to stay off the ground, but we all expected him to get smoked here and he didn’t far from it. Gajser made one of the biggest jumps I’ve ever seen from 2015 to 2016 and now his sand riding looks like it just jumped up leaps and bounds. Herlings is doing absolutely what he needs to do though but going into his most dominant track with a 9 point lead and leaving with a 9 point lead was not what he and KTM thought would happened. Still two Moto wins for Herlings equals Two overalls, Can’t beat that.
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kiwifan wrote:
so Gajser wont win if Herlings is healthy?? thats a big call to make so early in the season, seems to me both are equally fast...
so Gajser wont win if Herlings is healthy?? thats a big call to make so early in the season, seems to me both are equally fast, for Gajser to straight up beat Herlings in the first moto from the worst gate on Herling's home track, should say something.
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No,but Herlings won the GP‘s,has the red plate and Gajser is leading the crash charts.Laughing
well same thing happened last year and what happened to Herlings? he had one crash and was out...so you know, lets not point fingers just yet eh?
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kiwifan 3/8/2020 8:39pm
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tek14 wrote:
Yes and he will do it 2020 if Herlings is out again.
kiwifan wrote:
so Gajser wont win if Herlings is healthy?? thats a big call to make so early in the season, seems to me both are equally fast...
so Gajser wont win if Herlings is healthy?? thats a big call to make so early in the season, seems to me both are equally fast, for Gajser to straight up beat Herlings in the first moto from the worst gate on Herling's home track, should say something.
Helda3 wrote:
I think Herlings is playing it safe 2 overalls from 2 races, he's playing the long game...
easy to say that when he isnt dominating, for all we know thats as fast as he can go ....I dont know, no one knows apart from Herlings himself
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kiwifan 3/8/2020 8:41pm
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Park Boys wrote:
Gajser needs to stay off the ground, but we all expected him to get smoked here and he didn’t far from it. Gajser made one of...
Gajser needs to stay off the ground, but we all expected him to get smoked here and he didn’t far from it. Gajser made one of the biggest jumps I’ve ever seen from 2015 to 2016 and now his sand riding looks like it just jumped up leaps and bounds. Herlings is doing absolutely what he needs to do though but going into his most dominant track with a 9 point lead and leaving with a 9 point lead was not what he and KTM thought would happened. Still two Moto wins for Herlings equals Two overalls, Can’t beat that.
yup, moto score is 2 wins for Herlings and 1 for Gajser....pretty close

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kiwifan wrote:
so Gajser wont win if Herlings is healthy?? thats a big call to make so early in the season, seems to me both are equally fast...
so Gajser wont win if Herlings is healthy?? thats a big call to make so early in the season, seems to me both are equally fast, for Gajser to straight up beat Herlings in the first moto from the worst gate on Herling's home track, should say something.
Helda3 wrote:
I think Herlings is playing it safe 2 overalls from 2 races, he's playing the long game...
kiwifan wrote:
easy to say that when he isnt dominating, for all we know thats as fast as he can go ....I dont know, no one knows apart...
easy to say that when he isnt dominating, for all we know thats as fast as he can go ....I dont know, no one knows apart from Herlings himself
I'm happy to bet on it if you like? No injury Herlings wins the championship.... Kiwi or Aud doesn't matter
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Helda3 wrote:
I think Herlings is playing it safe 2 overalls from 2 races, he's playing the long game...
kiwifan wrote:
easy to say that when he isnt dominating, for all we know thats as fast as he can go ....I dont know, no one knows apart...
easy to say that when he isnt dominating, for all we know thats as fast as he can go ....I dont know, no one knows apart from Herlings himself
Helda3 wrote:
I'm happy to bet on it if you like? No injury Herlings wins the championship.... Kiwi or Aud doesn't matter
No, thanks. happy just to say its early in the season, anything could happen, enjoying the racing being close
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Park Boys wrote:
Gajser needs to stay off the ground, but we all expected him to get smoked here and he didn’t far from it. Gajser made one of...
Gajser needs to stay off the ground, but we all expected him to get smoked here and he didn’t far from it. Gajser made one of the biggest jumps I’ve ever seen from 2015 to 2016 and now his sand riding looks like it just jumped up leaps and bounds. Herlings is doing absolutely what he needs to do though but going into his most dominant track with a 9 point lead and leaving with a 9 point lead was not what he and KTM thought would happened. Still two Moto wins for Herlings equals Two overalls, Can’t beat that.
kiwifan wrote:
yup, moto score is 2 wins for Herlings and 1 for Gajser....pretty close
Herlings has won two motos, Gajser has won the other two
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In the press conference after the race Gajser was asked if he could explain why he was this strong at Valkenswaard, since he hadnt been that succesfull before at Valkenswaard. Gajser's reaction was that they never really spend much time on developing a good sand setup. This offseason was the first time they spend significant on it.

I must say Gajser looks like the fastest rider after 2 GP's. Not losing points to Herlings at Valkenswaard is big, especially on a weekend where everything went according to plan for Herlings and Gajser actually had issues.
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There is no better bike on the track right now then that crf450. Even with the little mistakes gasjer so now and then makes it's keeping him out of trouble. Big mistakes you just going down.

Herlings was struggeling the first moto and as he mentioned ktm did a better job second moto to prep the bike.

Great race from both this weekend. Even the supercross was a great race and track to watch. Gonna be a great season to watch! Let the best man win!
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kongols wrote:
Shapes up to be epic season. Looks like Gajser has improved sand riding just as much as Herlings hardpack riding.
BobbyM wrote:
The american Tomac would blow by both of them so fast their pudding bowl haircuts would be blowing forward.
RG1 wrote:
And then he would wake up
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kiwifan 3/9/2020 1:01am
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Park Boys wrote:
Gajser needs to stay off the ground, but we all expected him to get smoked here and he didn’t far from it. Gajser made one of...
Gajser needs to stay off the ground, but we all expected him to get smoked here and he didn’t far from it. Gajser made one of the biggest jumps I’ve ever seen from 2015 to 2016 and now his sand riding looks like it just jumped up leaps and bounds. Herlings is doing absolutely what he needs to do though but going into his most dominant track with a 9 point lead and leaving with a 9 point lead was not what he and KTM thought would happened. Still two Moto wins for Herlings equals Two overalls, Can’t beat that.
kiwifan wrote:
yup, moto score is 2 wins for Herlings and 1 for Gajser....pretty close
ayearinmx wrote:
Herlings has won two motos, Gajser has won the other two
oh, I stand corrected, even better then!
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After yesterday’s SX everyone was talking about Tomac “beast mode’ for a whole 21 minutes and a mellow track. These two guys raced for 70 minutes over two motos on a wet sand track, rain, and 10 degree Celsius temp (50 degree F). In both motos, the winner gapped third place by over a minute. I think that is beast mode.
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Helda3 3/9/2020 1:16am
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Park Boys wrote:
Gajser needs to stay off the ground, but we all expected him to get smoked here and he didn’t far from it. Gajser made one of...
Gajser needs to stay off the ground, but we all expected him to get smoked here and he didn’t far from it. Gajser made one of the biggest jumps I’ve ever seen from 2015 to 2016 and now his sand riding looks like it just jumped up leaps and bounds. Herlings is doing absolutely what he needs to do though but going into his most dominant track with a 9 point lead and leaving with a 9 point lead was not what he and KTM thought would happened. Still two Moto wins for Herlings equals Two overalls, Can’t beat that.
kiwifan wrote:
yup, moto score is 2 wins for Herlings and 1 for Gajser....pretty close
ayearinmx wrote:
Herlings has won two motos, Gajser has won the other two
EnvyMedia 3/9/2020 1:33am
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Some people on here said Herlings would have a 20 point lead on Gajser after Valkenswaard. Laughing
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FU2 wrote:
There is no better bike on the track right now then that crf450. Even with the little mistakes gasjer so now and then makes it's keeping...
There is no better bike on the track right now then that crf450. Even with the little mistakes gasjer so now and then makes it's keeping him out of trouble. Big mistakes you just going down.

Herlings was struggeling the first moto and as he mentioned ktm did a better job second moto to prep the bike.

Great race from both this weekend. Even the supercross was a great race and track to watch. Gonna be a great season to watch! Let the best man win!
Yes, the factory Honda looks really good. They seem to be able to run a fairly soft setup with it, but it's still not moving around much. Look at the passes to Herlings and Prado in race 1. On rails!
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teamddr 3/9/2020 1:58am
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Herlings said himself that He Was surprised with Tim’s pace. Was very wet yesterday and dry sand is a different animal at that level. There is no doubt about it Honda are building better bikes now and Tim here and Roczen over state side are clearly more competitive than ever.
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kaidoddragon 3/9/2020 3:18am
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Herlings has the upper hand right now, he got the red plate, won both overalls and Gajser has already crashed twice. That being said, Gajser has never been has good has he is right now. I was saying to my bro yersteday that I don't think that anyone has been as fast as those two in the history of the GP's.
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roninho wrote:
In the press conference after the race Gajser was asked if he could explain why he was this strong at Valkenswaard, since he hadnt been that...
In the press conference after the race Gajser was asked if he could explain why he was this strong at Valkenswaard, since he hadnt been that succesfull before at Valkenswaard. Gajser's reaction was that they never really spend much time on developing a good sand setup. This offseason was the first time they spend significant on it.

I must say Gajser looks like the fastest rider after 2 GP's. Not losing points to Herlings at Valkenswaard is big, especially on a weekend where everything went according to plan for Herlings and Gajser actually had issues.
Looking forward to see how it works in lommel. Agree with you that Gajser looks the fastest after two races, but i really think Herlings can do beter during the season.

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EnvyMedia wrote:
Some people on here said Herlings would have a 20 point lead on Gajser after Valkenswaard. Laughing
Well up till this weekend in all these years Gajser never scored more than 36 points at Valkenswaard and that was in a year where Herlings did not participate. And I don't know the stats by heart but i think Herlings only lost motos at valkenswaard in his first year in MXGP.
So for people to expect Herlings to score 50 and Gajser 40 or less at the weekend doesnt seem that Laughing to me.

Herlings not gaining points was always a realistic scenario (just need a crashstart, see Geerts), but Herlings not gaining points by simply being outperformed was for me not really a realistic scenarion up front. So quite the surprise, interesting to see how Herlings handles this.
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shaffstall721 3/9/2020 8:06am
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I bet Gajser goes 1-1 at the next round....
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tek14 wrote:
Gajser is eating his luck.. cant make it who season riding like that.
RG1 wrote:
People said that in 2016 and 2019 too but he managed it
Comfortable being uncomforable..
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Barrett57 3/9/2020 9:40am
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I hope they both stay injury free, we are in for a great season with those two going back and forth.
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Mr. Info 3/9/2020 10:33am
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Tomac has to show up and race before any statement is fact.
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Barrett57 3/9/2020 10:52am
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Mr. Info wrote:
Tomac has to show up and race before any statement is fact.
He's welcome at any GP he chooses, everyone would love to see it.
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scott_nz 3/9/2020 11:09am
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i just hope they both stay healthy all year, and hopefully Prado and Cairoli get closer to them, a 4 way dog fight for GP's would be awesome,

Suicidal_Tendencies 3/9/2020 11:32am
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The season will be amazing if they both stay healthy!
I agree, and I think once Prado starts hitting his stride, he'll be in the mix. I also expect AC222 to have some podium rides.
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teamddr wrote:
i agree
he,s been on the ground now 3 times in four races. he needs to slow down
And so far has not had an injury but I think that will change, hope it doesn’t as would like a fight all the way to end of series
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kkawboy14 3/9/2020 11:48am
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1 guy won both races!
KTM bonuses $600,000.00 for 2 wins
1 guy got Second both races!
Honda bonuses $100,000.00 for 2 seconds!
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Muscle-Milk-KTM 3/10/2020 2:03am
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To me Herlings hasn’t looked sharp at the last 2 GP’s, yes he’s won 2 races but he doesn’t look comfortable. When he’s on, you can see it in his riding style. I haven’t seen that yet. Undoubtedly Gajser is riding awesome & perhaps he’s making Herlings looks uncomfortable.
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Barrett57 wrote:
He's welcome at any GP he chooses, everyone would love to see it.
I bet on Imola to prepare MXoN. I hope Coronavirus doesn't fuck up the rest of the season.
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