Is the factory Yamaha good enough for Ferrandis

Lloydcarter
Profile picture for user Lloydcarter
Posts
514
Joined
1/23/2019
Location
Sacramento, CA, USA
Lloydcarter 2/9/2020 5:58pm
2/9/2020 5:58pm
decano51 wrote:
he wont make top 10 in 450
Boomslang wrote:
DF's 48.9 qualifying time was faster than AC9 who qualified first in 450's. Take a minute and think about it...........


This has happened multiple times let’s not act like having a bigger motor matters in Supercross
1
MasterProcrastin8r 2/9/2020 6:05pm
2/9/2020 6:05pm
I was in the stadium all day yesterday and A1 & A2 as well.
I posted the MXGP video in the other thread beating Herlings on a cls Kawi.

Love watching this dude ride, reminds me of Tomac less the inconsistency.

Maybe Roczen's teammate next year? I can see Big Red throwing some cash his way. KTM too, also with Deano done Husky too.

Yamaha will of course want to retain; bidding war could be too pricey.

IMHO.
kkawboy14
Profile picture for user kkawboy14
Posts
11486
Joined
6/5/2015
Location
USA
kkawboy14 2/9/2020 6:09pm
2/9/2020 6:09pm
decano51 wrote:
he wont make top 10 in 450
Boomslang wrote:
DF's 48.9 qualifying time was faster than AC9 who qualified first in 450's. Take a minute and think about it...........


....on a smoother track and on a 250.

The 450 will be a beast for Ferrandis!
1
dirty1974
Profile picture for user dirty1974
Posts
47
Joined
12/11/2018
Location
BE
dirty1974 2/9/2020 6:09pm
2/9/2020 6:09pm
decano51 wrote:
he wont make top 10 in 450
Boomslang wrote:
DF's 48.9 qualifying time was faster than AC9 who qualified first in 450's. Take a minute and think about it...........


Track favors light steering , not horsepower .
1

The Shop

See All »
murray88
Profile picture for user murray88
Posts
104
Joined
6/28/2019
Location
Cincinnati, OH, USA
murray88 2/9/2020 6:14pm
2/9/2020 6:14pm
Hope to see this guy on Ktm next year Laughing
1
-MAVERICK-
Profile picture for user -MAVERICK-
Posts
68239
Joined
3/26/2015
Location
Ontario, CA
-MAVERICK- 2/9/2020 6:25pm
2/9/2020 6:25pm
MasterProcrastin8r wrote:
I was in the stadium all day yesterday and A1 & A2 as well. I posted the MXGP video in the other thread beating Herlings on...
I was in the stadium all day yesterday and A1 & A2 as well.
I posted the MXGP video in the other thread beating Herlings on a cls Kawi.

Love watching this dude ride, reminds me of Tomac less the inconsistency.

Maybe Roczen's teammate next year? I can see Big Red throwing some cash his way. KTM too, also with Deano done Husky too.

Yamaha will of course want to retain; bidding war could be too pricey.

IMHO.
Chase Sexton will be Roczen's teammate as soon as SX is over. He's moving up to the 450 this summer.
1
Black Diesel Bomber 2/9/2020 6:33pm
2/9/2020 6:33pm
Hcallz5 wrote:
Given the yami 450 track record I'd be running from the blue tent.

Factory Gasgas? Woohoo
Agreed, because the big blue bike or Factory Yamaha haven't worked out so well for Stewart, Reed, Grant, Millsaps, Brayton, Webb, Barcia, Plessinger and who else did I miss?

I thought Barcia was going to break the blue curse this year with his dry A1 win but now I'm just thinking his stars aligned with his bike setup while most of the other top riders were "off". I'm hoping he can battle for a win again but we haven't seen it yet. Maybe back East....
2
MasterProcrastin8r 2/9/2020 6:49pm
2/9/2020 6:49pm Edited Date/Time 2/9/2020 7:00pm
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Chase Sexton will be Roczen's teammate as soon as SX is over. He's moving up to the 450 this summer.
Dohhhhh

forgot Brayton was in for sexton. I digress.

1
mxjon454
Profile picture for user mxjon454
Posts
1448
Joined
10/27/2009
Location
Menifee, CA, USA
mxjon454 2/9/2020 6:53pm
2/9/2020 6:53pm
nascarnate326 wrote:
Lets be honest, if Honda wanted to run a 3 man team they could without blinking. DF will be on a blue bike. AP will be...
Lets be honest, if Honda wanted to run a 3 man team they could without blinking.

DF will be on a blue bike. AP will be in the woods. My prediction.
Boomslang wrote:
He would make a good teammate for Baggett. Those KTM's are good. If I were him I'd go blue as a last choice.
I wonder if DF would go that route with the Rocky Mtn KTM team or if he would try and go somewhere where he can do his own helmet, boots, and gear deal? I hope he doesn’t go with Yamaha and waste a year or two over there before moving on to another team and bike.
Boomslang 2/9/2020 6:55pm
2/9/2020 6:55pm
decano51 wrote:
he wont make top 10 in 450
Boomslang wrote:
DF's 48.9 qualifying time was faster than AC9 who qualified first in 450's. Take a minute and think about it...........


Lloydcarter wrote:
This has happened multiple times let’s not act like having a bigger motor matters in Supercross
It has nothing to do with motor size.....it's all about the rider!
1
1
UpTiTe 2/9/2020 6:55pm
2/9/2020 6:55pm
DrinkMoreWater wrote:
I can perhaps see ktm making a move by replacing musquin.
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Musquin is already signed with KTM. His contract runs through 2021.

Webb's contract ends this year.
Webb got a raise and a year added on when he won the title.

Rumor is he wants to go to KTM.
3
mxjon454
Profile picture for user mxjon454
Posts
1448
Joined
10/27/2009
Location
Menifee, CA, USA
mxjon454 2/9/2020 7:07pm
2/9/2020 7:07pm
Meister wrote:
He will get man handled for quite some time when he makes the jump to 450s.. Mark my words.. Isnt it sort of common on some...
He will get man handled for quite some time when he makes the jump to 450s.. Mark my words..

Isnt it sort of common on some tracks that 250-450 lap times are about the same?
You really think he’ll get manhandled when he moves up? Lol I highly doubt he’ll be getting manhandled. He has a ton of experience and IMO will be a legit threat on a 450.
3
mxjon454
Profile picture for user mxjon454
Posts
1448
Joined
10/27/2009
Location
Menifee, CA, USA
mxjon454 2/9/2020 7:12pm
2/9/2020 7:12pm
-MAVERICK- wrote:
It's been said that JGR is in their final year of contract with Suzuki. Seeing how Suzuki scaled back their support, will they re-up their contract...
It's been said that JGR is in their final year of contract with Suzuki. Seeing how Suzuki scaled back their support, will they re-up their contract with JGR?

Savatgy is on a 1 year deal. He rode well enough to warrant a two year. Was the 1 year deal because of the lack of support from Suzuki or perhaps the future of JGR is unknown.

JGR has been at it a long time so it's difficult to see them leaving the sport, but you never know.

Suzuki scaled back their support to JGR, but somehow the HEP team will be doing outdoors this year.

Remains to be seen.
Does Husky have any interest in having a factory backed 450 team like KTM does with Rocky Mtn KTM? If they did it would be nice to see JGR get that opportunity and leave Suzuki.
1
-MAVERICK-
Profile picture for user -MAVERICK-
Posts
68239
Joined
3/26/2015
Location
Ontario, CA
-MAVERICK- 2/9/2020 7:16pm
2/9/2020 7:16pm Edited Date/Time 2/9/2020 7:18pm
DrinkMoreWater wrote:
I can perhaps see ktm making a move by replacing musquin.
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Musquin is already signed with KTM. His contract runs through 2021.

Webb's contract ends this year.
UpTiTe wrote:
Webb got a raise and a year added on when he won the title.

Rumor is he wants to go to KTM.
I don't blame him. Arguably the best team.

Hope it materializes.

That said, I wouldn't mind seeing him stay blue either.
1
-MAVERICK-
Profile picture for user -MAVERICK-
Posts
68239
Joined
3/26/2015
Location
Ontario, CA
-MAVERICK- 2/9/2020 7:38pm
2/9/2020 7:38pm
-MAVERICK- wrote:
It's been said that JGR is in their final year of contract with Suzuki. Seeing how Suzuki scaled back their support, will they re-up their contract...
It's been said that JGR is in their final year of contract with Suzuki. Seeing how Suzuki scaled back their support, will they re-up their contract with JGR?

Savatgy is on a 1 year deal. He rode well enough to warrant a two year. Was the 1 year deal because of the lack of support from Suzuki or perhaps the future of JGR is unknown.

JGR has been at it a long time so it's difficult to see them leaving the sport, but you never know.

Suzuki scaled back their support to JGR, but somehow the HEP team will be doing outdoors this year.

Remains to be seen.
mxjon454 wrote:
Does Husky have any interest in having a factory backed 450 team like KTM does with Rocky Mtn KTM? If they did it would be nice...
Does Husky have any interest in having a factory backed 450 team like KTM does with Rocky Mtn KTM? If they did it would be nice to see JGR get that opportunity and leave Suzuki.
Let's look at who the KTM Group supports.

KTM supports their 450 Factory team, Rocky Mountain ATV/MC, Team Tedder, and Troy Lee Design KTM.

Husky supports their 450 and 250 factory teams.

GasGas will be introduced, so it needs to go to an already established team. Rocky Mountain ATV/MC already has the connection so it would be a safe bet.

I personally don't see Husky having another factory supported team, but you never know. Maybe JGR will get that chance if Suzuki doesn't renew their contract or maybe they'll leave the sport.

2021 will be interesting.
4
rhargrave431
Profile picture for user rhargrave431
Posts
857
Joined
12/7/2010
Location
Kalispell, MT, USA
rhargrave431 2/9/2020 7:50pm
2/9/2020 7:50pm
MasterProcrastin8r wrote:
I was in the stadium all day yesterday and A1 & A2 as well. I posted the MXGP video in the other thread beating Herlings on...
I was in the stadium all day yesterday and A1 & A2 as well.
I posted the MXGP video in the other thread beating Herlings on a cls Kawi.

Love watching this dude ride, reminds me of Tomac less the inconsistency.

Maybe Roczen's teammate next year? I can see Big Red throwing some cash his way. KTM too, also with Deano done Husky too.

Yamaha will of course want to retain; bidding war could be too pricey.

IMHO.
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Chase Sexton will be Roczen's teammate as soon as SX is over. He's moving up to the 450 this summer.
I don't think I'd bet the house on that...yes that is the plan, but I think it can change. Dan Truman and Matthes were talking about it on the Moto 60 show this week. Chase has only won one race, and is consistently getting injured.
1
BobPA
Profile picture for user BobPA
Posts
8340
Joined
10/31/2013
Location
USA
BobPA 2/9/2020 8:01pm
2/9/2020 8:01pm
Barcia looked good this week. Aaron looked excellent early until his tipover....Any bike can win now-a-days
1
aeffertz
Profile picture for user aeffertz
Posts
12822
Joined
7/16/2015
Location
La Crosse, WI, USA
aeffertz 2/9/2020 8:18pm
2/9/2020 8:18pm
Has Dylan ever complained or blamed his results on the bike? He seems to own up to everything and just rides his heart out every time the gate drops. I think the Yamaha would be fine for him. It’ll be fun to see where he lands regardless. The 450 hype train is still only gaining momentum!
3
2

Pit Row

See All »
LoudLove
Profile picture for user LoudLove
Posts
3008
Joined
7/16/2010
Location
USA
LoudLove 2/9/2020 8:27pm
2/9/2020 8:27pm
JA21 punched his meal ticket hunting down and passing a star 250 Kawi rider. DF is repeating history, and unless Forkner steps up to the plate, the next big money 450 contract will swing Dylan’s way. Just a question of which team puts together the best overall package.
Zycki11
Profile picture for user Zycki11
Posts
7938
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
Edwardsville, IL, USA
Zycki11 2/9/2020 8:28pm
2/9/2020 8:28pm
Dylan rode the 450 at Paris SX late last year. The dude hauls the mail on the 450 as well and looked great on the blue “pig”
4
Underground 2/9/2020 8:29pm
2/9/2020 8:29pm
Boomslang wrote:
The dude is legit and will be a title contender in the 450 class when he gets there.
Underground wrote:
Will be even better once he times his pass attempts to a point where it's possible
Boomslang wrote:
My broooo, are you still butt-hurt about the "Craig" incident? Friendly dig and nothing personal..... He is on probation and will mature as time goes by...
My broooo, are you still butt-hurt about the "Craig" incident? Friendly dig and nothing personal.....

He is on probation and will mature as time goes by.

I enjoy watching him race....
You best watch the 250 SD main again. He blows his flow multiple times when there wasn't even half a chance in it for a pass.

Dylon V Craig ??? There were no boos from me.
1
4
sdmx
Profile picture for user sdmx
Posts
405
Joined
10/30/2013
Location
Oceanside, CA, USA
sdmx 2/9/2020 8:43pm
2/9/2020 8:43pm
t_baum88
Profile picture for user t_baum88
Posts
209
Joined
1/29/2019
Location
Decatur, GA, USA
t_baum88 2/9/2020 9:00pm
2/9/2020 9:00pm
GuyB wrote:
Dylan is shopping for the best deal he can get...which is exactly what a guy in his position should be doing.
Is it?

Cooper’s KTM contract wasn’t near Yamaha’s, AP’s next won’t be either.

If you’re really betting on yourself, you go team first, bike second, money last.

Dollar difference will be made up very quickly if he delivers.
2
t_baum88
Profile picture for user t_baum88
Posts
209
Joined
1/29/2019
Location
Decatur, GA, USA
t_baum88 2/9/2020 9:01pm
2/9/2020 9:01pm
Underground wrote:
Will be even better once he times his pass attempts to a point where it's possible
Boomslang wrote:
My broooo, are you still butt-hurt about the "Craig" incident? Friendly dig and nothing personal..... He is on probation and will mature as time goes by...
My broooo, are you still butt-hurt about the "Craig" incident? Friendly dig and nothing personal.....

He is on probation and will mature as time goes by.

I enjoy watching him race....
Underground wrote:
You best watch the 250 SD main again. He blows his flow multiple times when there wasn't even half a chance in it for a pass...
You best watch the 250 SD main again. He blows his flow multiple times when there wasn't even half a chance in it for a pass.

Dylon V Craig ??? There were no boos from me.
And he still won with laps to spare? Almost like he was just exploring...... Oh wait. He was.
1
kongols
Profile picture for user kongols
Posts
24230
Joined
9/22/2009
Location
Riga, LV
kongols 2/9/2020 9:34pm
2/9/2020 9:34pm
FerCzD wrote:
Which manufacturer/team have open spots for next year?
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Yamaha
KTM
JGR
Kawasaki
Kawasaki?
-MAVERICK-
Profile picture for user -MAVERICK-
Posts
68239
Joined
3/26/2015
Location
Ontario, CA
-MAVERICK- 2/9/2020 9:38pm
2/9/2020 9:38pm
FerCzD wrote:
Which manufacturer/team have open spots for next year?
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Yamaha
KTM
JGR
Kawasaki
kongols wrote:
Kawasaki?
AC is on a 1 year deal. I don't see him going anywhere.
2
AussieParaMX
Profile picture for user AussieParaMX
Posts
1724
Joined
7/30/2009
Location
Mount Waverley, VIC, AU
AussieParaMX 2/9/2020 11:24pm
2/9/2020 11:24pm
Zycki11 wrote:
Dylan rode the 450 at Paris SX late last year. The dude hauls the mail on the 450 as well and looked great on the blue...
Dylan rode the 450 at Paris SX late last year. The dude hauls the mail on the 450 as well and looked great on the blue “pig”
Webb did that a bunch of times as well.... Im not sure what happened when he went stateside full time 450s?

Apparently it was at a time when they werent very open to change but thats seems to have changed - so im not sure if I see the issue. Barcia definitely seems like he is every bit as fast as he would or could be on any bike this year. Even AP at least has a bit of speed but he seems to just kind of clicking off the weeks staying safe and hopefully will come alive.


Lightning78
Profile picture for user Lightning78
Posts
6353
Joined
12/12/2007
Location
Huntington Beach, CA, USA
Lightning78 2/9/2020 11:31pm
2/9/2020 11:31pm
DrinkMoreWater wrote:
I can perhaps see ktm making a move by replacing musquin.
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Musquin is already signed with KTM. His contract runs through 2021.

Webb's contract ends this year.
UpTiTe wrote:
Webb got a raise and a year added on when he won the title.

Rumor is he wants to go to KTM.
It's been dropped on a few pulpmx podcasts that they all casually said hed gonna be on ktm

Well see I guess
Motofinne
Profile picture for user Motofinne
Posts
11634
Joined
1/4/2014
Location
FI
Motofinne 2/9/2020 11:41pm
2/9/2020 11:41pm Edited Date/Time 2/10/2020 1:00am
I would not go to the US Factory Yamaha 450 team if im Ferrandis and other teams like Husqvarna/KTM would have a spot for him.

Nothing wrong with the base bike but there are plenty of question marks around that team. It seems like any time they get outside help it really benifits them/riders (Preston late last year, Enzo last week.), so what is going on with the actual people inside the team when they can't figure things out regarding the bike setup for the riders year after year (Reed was vocal about it after his two years with them)?
jorgechavez 2/10/2020 1:18am
2/10/2020 1:18am
I predict he goes to KTM and they do a three man team for a season or two and then Marv retires.
1
1

Post a reply to: Is the factory Yamaha good enough for Ferrandis