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Jacob Argubright's Helmet Cam From Round 1 Of The AMA National Hare & Hound Series.

These desert racers are another breed. The balls out speed these guys reach at the start is scary and the level of concentration they must have to maintain it is impressive.

He crashes at 17 minutes in but fortunately wasn't going to fast at the time.

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Geezus.....Blink
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rk337 1/29/2020 10:15am
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Love how Brabec tries to help him fix his bars before just telling him to go haha
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YZed250 1/29/2020 10:25am
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Very impressive. And to talk with Jake, he is smart, articulate and a very nice guy. Big respect!
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FWYT 1/29/2020 11:10am
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Man . . . . watching that schtuff gives me the willies. Gnarly.
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wildbill 1/29/2020 11:26am
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I remember my PE 175 not pulling 6th gear through the sagebrush. I was bummed.
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Stuntman949 1/29/2020 11:29am
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Hare and Hound GoPros are the best, especially when they're posted by the best. Hope he posts each race from here on out
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Titan1 1/29/2020 11:33am
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That's incredible racing at the beginning...the freedom of racing is the desert is what is so incredible about it...the freedom to choose different lines, going off the marked course on a shorter line, but not knowing if there is a huge wash/cactus/rock just over that little hill that will end up costing you more time...the advantage of racing in the lead with no dust vs being able to follow and learn from the leaders mistakes. Not know what is around the corner...the unknown

It's why I love doing it...

Watching the best in the world do it...so impressive.
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LungButter 1/29/2020 11:57am
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Awesome.

Pretty wild that he wipes the GoPro at about 3:05 while still hard on the throttle in the open desert.

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FWYT wrote:
Man . . . . watching that schtuff gives me the willies. Gnarly.
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JRT812 1/29/2020 1:11pm
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So do they get to pre run it? That stuff is just crazy. I bet the roost is killer
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JRT812 wrote:
So do they get to pre run it? That stuff is just crazy. I bet the roost is killer
Some rounds will let the riders pre-run the bomb only...I'm not sure if this round did that or not. (Most Lucerne valley rounds do let them pre-run.
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sandman768 1/29/2020 1:19pm
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That looks dangerous as hell.....no thanks....
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LungButter 1/29/2020 3:17pm
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Titan1 wrote:
Some rounds will let the riders pre-run the bomb only...I'm not sure if this round did that or not. (Most Lucerne valley rounds do let them...
Some rounds will let the riders pre-run the bomb only...I'm not sure if this round did that or not. (Most Lucerne valley rounds do let them pre-run.
I don't know for sure either, but there was lots of tracks on the Bomb already so I'm gonna guess they did get to pre-run it.

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RichieW13 1/29/2020 3:32pm
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JRT812 wrote:
So do they get to pre run it? That stuff is just crazy. I bet the roost is killer
Yeah, pre-running was open for the "bomb run", which is the section up until the flags you can see to his left at the 2:33 mark. It's about 2 miles long.
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mattyhamz2 1/29/2020 3:53pm
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Amazing that my grandfather raced in the desert from the 60's until the 90's and called us crazy for racing motocross.
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JRT812 wrote:
So do they get to pre run it? That stuff is just crazy. I bet the roost is killer
As stated before you can pre run the bomb run portion only. If you are seen riding past the bomb, you're DQed.
After that its just following the ribbons. Then local knowledge comes into play. I've raced this desert for years, just like Jake has, so you get to know the trails pretty well. You have your mental map of the desert and can kinda tell where it will be leading to next. The biggest advantage is knowing which parts of the desert you can make your own trail in vs where you need to stay on trail. Some areas I have no problem going off ribbon and blazing a trail and ripping through bushes, others I know there are buried rocks everywhere so I play its safe. And knowing where the score roads are that you can jump over at speed vs slow down to not do a flying w is nice to know.Also have to keep in mind that you can legally only be 50ft away from the marked trail.
The roost sucks. those 450s send rocks everywhere.. I've gotten bruises through shoulder pads from rocks the size of a baseball thrown at me
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offroad949 1/30/2020 9:24am
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JRT812 wrote:
So do they get to pre run it? That stuff is just crazy. I bet the roost is killer
rk337 wrote:
As stated before you can pre run the bomb run portion only. If you are seen riding past the bomb, you're DQed. After that its just...
As stated before you can pre run the bomb run portion only. If you are seen riding past the bomb, you're DQed.
After that its just following the ribbons. Then local knowledge comes into play. I've raced this desert for years, just like Jake has, so you get to know the trails pretty well. You have your mental map of the desert and can kinda tell where it will be leading to next. The biggest advantage is knowing which parts of the desert you can make your own trail in vs where you need to stay on trail. Some areas I have no problem going off ribbon and blazing a trail and ripping through bushes, others I know there are buried rocks everywhere so I play its safe. And knowing where the score roads are that you can jump over at speed vs slow down to not do a flying w is nice to know.Also have to keep in mind that you can legally only be 50ft away from the marked trail.
The roost sucks. those 450s send rocks everywhere.. I've gotten bruises through shoulder pads from rocks the size of a baseball thrown at me
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Natester551v 1/30/2020 9:28am
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This video has done nothing to change my mind about getting back into desert racing...lol. I usually do the Jericho Sageriders round, but it's way more technical for the most part.

Jake is a stud...I think Sutherlin quit doing the H&H series because the speed freaked him out (this is coming from a former national hare & hound champ).

Nothing but respect for those guys...
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Natester551v wrote:
This video has done nothing to change my mind about getting back into desert racing...lol. I usually do the Jericho Sageriders round, but it's way more...
This video has done nothing to change my mind about getting back into desert racing...lol. I usually do the Jericho Sageriders round, but it's way more technical for the most part.

Jake is a stud...I think Sutherlin quit doing the H&H series because the speed freaked him out (this is coming from a former national hare & hound champ).

Nothing but respect for those guys...
I hear yeah, I've done lots of SoCal Hare and Hounds but those days are over for me now.

I do still enjoy the one in Idaho but it has quite a bit less full throttle across the dez than the SoCal stuff.

Jericho is super fun for sure love all the sandy sections.
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jeffro503 1/30/2020 1:41pm
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That is awesome , but also at the same time , scary as hell. I just couldn't do that type of riding. Going down at those speeds .......gawd I don't even want to think about it. Huge respect to those guys though. My stomach was in my throat just watching that.
dirtworldmx 1/30/2020 2:53pm
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Cool video. That bomb run looked a lot like the Glendale start straight! Grinning
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Natester551v wrote:
This video has done nothing to change my mind about getting back into desert racing...lol. I usually do the Jericho Sageriders round, but it's way more...
This video has done nothing to change my mind about getting back into desert racing...lol. I usually do the Jericho Sageriders round, but it's way more technical for the most part.

Jake is a stud...I think Sutherlin quit doing the H&H series because the speed freaked him out (this is coming from a former national hare & hound champ).

Nothing but respect for those guys...
Cherry Creek area is a blast to ride, i've done tons of races out there and shit gets hairy quick. my fave is the mountain sections. good stuff
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JRT812 1/30/2020 4:01pm
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JRT812 wrote:
So do they get to pre run it? That stuff is just crazy. I bet the roost is killer
rk337 wrote:
As stated before you can pre run the bomb run portion only. If you are seen riding past the bomb, you're DQed. After that its just...
As stated before you can pre run the bomb run portion only. If you are seen riding past the bomb, you're DQed.
After that its just following the ribbons. Then local knowledge comes into play. I've raced this desert for years, just like Jake has, so you get to know the trails pretty well. You have your mental map of the desert and can kinda tell where it will be leading to next. The biggest advantage is knowing which parts of the desert you can make your own trail in vs where you need to stay on trail. Some areas I have no problem going off ribbon and blazing a trail and ripping through bushes, others I know there are buried rocks everywhere so I play its safe. And knowing where the score roads are that you can jump over at speed vs slow down to not do a flying w is nice to know.Also have to keep in mind that you can legally only be 50ft away from the marked trail.
The roost sucks. those 450s send rocks everywhere.. I've gotten bruises through shoulder pads from rocks the size of a baseball thrown at me
Interesting stuff. I’ll admit I only watched shortly past the wreck, but a few things stood out like the bomb, roost, and the dude that looked liked he was about to get death wobble in the sand.

My mind can’t wrap around the commitment it takes to pin it during the bomb part.

Sort of hooked
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JRT812 1/30/2020 4:03pm
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JRT812 wrote:
So do they get to pre run it? That stuff is just crazy. I bet the roost is killer
Titan1 wrote:
Some rounds will let the riders pre-run the bomb only...I'm not sure if this round did that or not. (Most Lucerne valley rounds do let them...
Some rounds will let the riders pre-run the bomb only...I'm not sure if this round did that or not. (Most Lucerne valley rounds do let them pre-run.
I would think a pre run would be the only way for safety and commitment. It would be nuts hitting that kind of terrain at that speed without ridding it first. Either way.... huge commitment from them
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YZed250 1/30/2020 5:17pm
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JRT812 wrote:
So do they get to pre run it? That stuff is just crazy. I bet the roost is killer
Titan1 wrote:
Some rounds will let the riders pre-run the bomb only...I'm not sure if this round did that or not. (Most Lucerne valley rounds do let them...
Some rounds will let the riders pre-run the bomb only...I'm not sure if this round did that or not. (Most Lucerne valley rounds do let them pre-run.
JRT812 wrote:
I would think a pre run would be the only way for safety and commitment. It would be nuts hitting that kind of terrain at that...
I would think a pre run would be the only way for safety and commitment. It would be nuts hitting that kind of terrain at that speed without ridding it first. Either way.... huge commitment from them
Prerunning might give you some comfort, but when you get there, you realize the valley is massive, the lines all look the same and you can't remember the position of the big rocks, big cactus or holes. Road crossings are about all I ever seem to be able to remember.

Other than that, you've just got to swerve if you see something coming and of course if there's dust, it's in God's hands.

I suck at bomb starts, they are absolutely terrifying. Again, mad respect!
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jeffro503 1/30/2020 6:11pm
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YZed250 wrote:
Prerunning might give you some comfort, but when you get there, you realize the valley is massive, the lines all look the same and you can't...
Prerunning might give you some comfort, but when you get there, you realize the valley is massive, the lines all look the same and you can't remember the position of the big rocks, big cactus or holes. Road crossings are about all I ever seem to be able to remember.

Other than that, you've just got to swerve if you see something coming and of course if there's dust, it's in God's hands.

I suck at bomb starts, they are absolutely terrifying. Again, mad respect!
Quick question : It's really hard to tell at the speeds these guys were going , but is there like big rock / boulders on those big flat out areas? I can only see the sage brush , which honestly isn't all that scary , but hitting a watermelon sized boulder doing about 80mph?......yeah , no thanks.
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RichieW13 1/30/2020 6:21pm
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YZed250 wrote:
Prerunning might give you some comfort, but when you get there, you realize the valley is massive, the lines all look the same and you can't...
Prerunning might give you some comfort, but when you get there, you realize the valley is massive, the lines all look the same and you can't remember the position of the big rocks, big cactus or holes. Road crossings are about all I ever seem to be able to remember.

Other than that, you've just got to swerve if you see something coming and of course if there's dust, it's in God's hands.

I suck at bomb starts, they are absolutely terrifying. Again, mad respect!
jeffro503 wrote:
Quick question : It's really hard to tell at the speeds these guys were going , but is there like big rock / boulders on those...
Quick question : It's really hard to tell at the speeds these guys were going , but is there like big rock / boulders on those big flat out areas? I can only see the sage brush , which honestly isn't all that scary , but hitting a watermelon sized boulder doing about 80mph?......yeah , no thanks.
That particular start area was pretty smooth. There was an occasional boulder hiding behind bushes here or there. Jake was able to get on an established trail pretty early, and those are usually pretty clean. At that point the biggest issue is big washouts or road crossings. But this start didn't have many of those either.
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jeffro503 1/30/2020 7:37pm
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RichieW13 wrote:
That particular start area was pretty smooth. There was an occasional boulder hiding behind bushes here or there. Jake was able to get on an established...
That particular start area was pretty smooth. There was an occasional boulder hiding behind bushes here or there. Jake was able to get on an established trail pretty early, and those are usually pretty clean. At that point the biggest issue is big washouts or road crossings. But this start didn't have many of those either.
I just look at that and the first thought in my head is " At least on an MX track , you kinda know what's coming " , and basically it's ruts , braking bump and acceleration areas , where the smooth lips are on the take off's , ect.... But there? I know this is an MX forum , but I simply couldn't give those off-road guys enough props.
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Racer111 1/30/2020 7:44pm
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They don’t water the track before the race?? Pshht! Screw that. 😂😂
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YZed250 1/31/2020 8:14am
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Prerunning might give you some comfort, but when you get there, you realize the valley is massive, the lines all look the same and you can't...
Prerunning might give you some comfort, but when you get there, you realize the valley is massive, the lines all look the same and you can't remember the position of the big rocks, big cactus or holes. Road crossings are about all I ever seem to be able to remember.

Other than that, you've just got to swerve if you see something coming and of course if there's dust, it's in God's hands.

I suck at bomb starts, they are absolutely terrifying. Again, mad respect!
jeffro503 wrote:
Quick question : It's really hard to tell at the speeds these guys were going , but is there like big rock / boulders on those...
Quick question : It's really hard to tell at the speeds these guys were going , but is there like big rock / boulders on those big flat out areas? I can only see the sage brush , which honestly isn't all that scary , but hitting a watermelon sized boulder doing about 80mph?......yeah , no thanks.
There shouldn't be big rocks in the middle of a valley that's mostly sand and silt. However, the ground is far from smooth. There can be watermelon sized rock. Anything less than 2.5' tall or less is hard to see over the brush.

The road crossings that I'm talking about (that usually cross the start) are like 2-3 feet deep wheel ruts that you might be hitting perpendicular or maybe 45 degrees. A lot of the times, there are multiple sets of ruts together.

Depending on the valley you're in, a lot of that 'sage brush' (hmm, try some sage on your steak … not that kind of sage!) is made of really hard branches that can go right through you or a radiator. There are burrows and dirt piles from animals digging holes, and all kinds of crap that can knock you off line.

Just search 'bomb start crash' for some perspective!

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