Bring Leigh Diffey back!

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yz133rider 1/26/2020 10:09am
1/26/2020 10:09am Edited Date/Time 1/26/2020 10:10am
GuyB wrote:
I usually see the highlight videos, but no, I don't ever watch the full shows.
I usually see the highlight videos, but no, I don't ever watch the full shows.
Premixed112 wrote:
Then how are you going to come on here and act condescending to people that have valid criticisms when you haven’t even seen what’s being discussed?
Agreed. If you haven't sat thru hours of that guy dropping the ball week after week, year after year, you really should stay out of it.

He's terrible at his job. Diffey was a massive improvement. Paul Malin is an example of another true professional. Will Christien does an outstanding job as well.

Ralph doesnt know the sport, hardly knows the riders, doesnt understand the physics, the tracks, the scoring, the bikes, he just isnt with it.

He has a monster jam level understanding of the sport and treats it as such.

He drums up fake drama, has horrible go to lines, and brings nothing of value to the show.

As hardcore fans we watch the show week in and week out, we pick up on this and are voicing it. Which is the point of a discussion forum, no?
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GuyB wrote:
I usually see the highlight videos, but no, I don't ever watch the full shows.
I usually see the highlight videos, but no, I don't ever watch the full shows.
Premixed112 wrote:
Then how are you going to come on here and act condescending to people that have valid criticisms when you haven’t even seen what’s being discussed?
yz133rider wrote:
Agreed. If you haven't sat thru hours of that guy dropping the ball week after week, year after year, you really should stay out of it...
Agreed. If you haven't sat thru hours of that guy dropping the ball week after week, year after year, you really should stay out of it.

He's terrible at his job. Diffey was a massive improvement. Paul Malin is an example of another true professional. Will Christien does an outstanding job as well.

Ralph doesnt know the sport, hardly knows the riders, doesnt understand the physics, the tracks, the scoring, the bikes, he just isnt with it.

He has a monster jam level understanding of the sport and treats it as such.

He drums up fake drama, has horrible go to lines, and brings nothing of value to the show.

As hardcore fans we watch the show week in and week out, we pick up on this and are voicing it. Which is the point of a discussion forum, no?
Totally agree. For the length of time he’s been covering this sport I feel like Ralph should be better than he is. Diffey seemed to have a better knowledge and understanding after 3 races.

The other thing they need to realise is that the best athletes don’t necessarily make the best analysts. This is true for many sports. Whilst it’s good to have a big name like RC in the booth, I think there are lesser riders out there who are better at breaking down/explaining and talking about the sport
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Why did NBC Sports bring in Leigh for the three races?
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GuyB wrote:
I think we need to add another room below the Dumbgeon called, "Oh God, Not Another Thread Bitching About The Announcers."
Zaugg wrote:
Can we please do this? The cry-babies that can't appreciate what they have will now have a place to go and complain, saving the rest of...
Can we please do this?

The cry-babies that can't appreciate what they have will now have a place to go and complain, saving the rest of us from seeing YET ANOTHER ANNOUNCER BASHING THREAD.





I absolutely do appreciate what we have now. I remember the days of having to program a VCR to record a race that was sometimes a week old when it was played at 3am. And then finding out the race was bumped for billiards coverage.

So, I love the fact that it is available (mostly) live now.

But it should be and can be better. We shouldn’t have to watch the leaderboard to notice that rider A just moved from 3rd to 8th without knowing what happened. Can the cameras capture every moment, every pass, every crash etc...? No. And we understand that but, geez....is it asking too much to explain to the viewers what happened? Instead we have to listen to Ralph babble on about Roczen’s injuries for the 100th time.

Our bitching and complaining is justified in many cases. How many times have we missed critical moments in the races with zero explanation? Nothing. Passes for the lead have occurred while we have to listen to a story about Chad Reed moving here years ago. It’s amateur. Other sports fans wouldn’t tolerate a game winning field goal being missed because the commentators were showing a clip from the kickers high school days. They’d be pissed and rightfully so.

We’re not attacking Ralph on a personal level. I’m sure he’s a great person but, he sucks. Yes, we get it. He has to do/say what the producers are telling him in his ear piece. And at times it’s painful to listen to. If your waiter brought you the wrong order would you say something? Is that considered bitching, whining and complaining also? Or are you just pointing out that you deserve the correct meal? And that is what we deserve. Better coverage and commentary.
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Snoqualmie wrote:
Why did NBC Sports bring in Leigh for the three races?
Something that was brought up on the Pulp Show with Weege changed my opinion on why Leigh was brought in. From what Weege said, he was basically told by NBC when the contract shifted that, "You have the job if you want it." to call the SX races. But for some reason 2019 started and Ralph was back calling the races, and Matthes mentioned something along the lines of, "They (Feld) will never let you do it. Because you are motocross and they want nothing to do with it." I'm paraphrasing there, but that was what seemed to be the gist of it. I do think NBC sees Ralph as a weak point, hence why Weege was originally approached, but Feld wanted Ralph so NBC caved in the beginning. NBC kind of opened the door for a new commentator by showing how good a broadcast CAN be with Leigh, and now seeing how bad Ralph was in comparison I think it's even changing the opinions of people who previously were okay with Ralph. For whatever reason Feld are way up Ralph's ass, but if the product very evidently suffers because of Ralph's presence, they may have no choice but to pull the plug. Whether that means using Weege or some other commentator, I wouldn't be surprised if NBC would push to have somebody new come 2021.

Long story short, I think NBC doesn't like Ralph, and Feld loves Ralph, so NBC brought in somebody who knows what they're doing to show Feld how bad Ralph is.
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murray88 1/26/2020 11:25am
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Who gives a shit who’s calling the race I just care about the actual race.
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profeshenal125 1/26/2020 11:27am
1/26/2020 11:27am
The listener has to adopt there hearing and personality a bit. Because every announcer has a different style and voice. The tv and radio commercial for years is David lee, great voice. But that style is grab your attention, wouldn’t. Work for race calling. He was a dj on wapl in Appleton wi. 30 mi s. Of Green Bay. Robots are the future haha, then everyone will say bring back that human
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Ktm life wrote:
I think Carmichael gels alot better with Diffey, Ralph and Carmichael sound like they are constantly fighting over the mic. Probably tired of talking about announcers...
I think Carmichael gels alot better with Diffey, Ralph and Carmichael sound like they are constantly fighting over the mic. Probably tired of talking about announcers, but just my two cents.
2 cents is worth even less. Ralph is contacted to announce, deal with it and deal with yer 2 pennies.
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Underground 1/26/2020 3:33pm
1/26/2020 3:33pm
Snoqualmie wrote:
Why did NBC Sports bring in Leigh for the three races?
gym_jackets wrote:
Something that was brought up on the Pulp Show with Weege changed my opinion on why Leigh was brought in. From what Weege said, he was...
Something that was brought up on the Pulp Show with Weege changed my opinion on why Leigh was brought in. From what Weege said, he was basically told by NBC when the contract shifted that, "You have the job if you want it." to call the SX races. But for some reason 2019 started and Ralph was back calling the races, and Matthes mentioned something along the lines of, "They (Feld) will never let you do it. Because you are motocross and they want nothing to do with it." I'm paraphrasing there, but that was what seemed to be the gist of it. I do think NBC sees Ralph as a weak point, hence why Weege was originally approached, but Feld wanted Ralph so NBC caved in the beginning. NBC kind of opened the door for a new commentator by showing how good a broadcast CAN be with Leigh, and now seeing how bad Ralph was in comparison I think it's even changing the opinions of people who previously were okay with Ralph. For whatever reason Feld are way up Ralph's ass, but if the product very evidently suffers because of Ralph's presence, they may have no choice but to pull the plug. Whether that means using Weege or some other commentator, I wouldn't be surprised if NBC would push to have somebody new come 2021.

Long story short, I think NBC doesn't like Ralph, and Feld loves Ralph, so NBC brought in somebody who knows what they're doing to show Feld how bad Ralph is.
Big shoes, big feet... I think you're on to something re Feld and Ralph relationship.
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To The Chopper 1/26/2020 3:34pm
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shmacky78 wrote:
I hate to say this, but listening to Will Christian shouting over the noise on the floor every so often was more annoying than Ralph. she...
I hate to say this, but listening to Will Christian shouting over the noise on the floor every so often was more annoying than Ralph. she just kept going on and on, shouting in that high voice about absolutely NOTHING relevant on the track.... sorry I know she’s cute and all, but let the thumbs down 👎 fly 😂😂
yz133rider wrote:
Personally i think shes way better then Ralph She is very sharp, very quick, professional, clearly studies the sport, and doesnt talk about anything irrelevant compared...
Personally i think shes way better then Ralph
She is very sharp, very quick, professional, clearly studies the sport, and doesnt talk about anything irrelevant compared to Ralph "talks about marvins cats" Shaheen.
Will is flat knocking it out of the park. She asks great questions, and has very clearly taken the time to get to know who's who and what the relevant stories are each week/season. A+

Maybe she could educate Ralph on something other than bike colors.... I can't imagine what he thinks Davalos is riding....?
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1/26/2020 3:50pm
shmacky78 wrote:
I hate to say this, but listening to Will Christian shouting over the noise on the floor every so often was more annoying than Ralph. she...
I hate to say this, but listening to Will Christian shouting over the noise on the floor every so often was more annoying than Ralph. she just kept going on and on, shouting in that high voice about absolutely NOTHING relevant on the track.... sorry I know she’s cute and all, but let the thumbs down 👎 fly 😂😂
yz133rider wrote:
Personally i think shes way better then Ralph She is very sharp, very quick, professional, clearly studies the sport, and doesnt talk about anything irrelevant compared...
Personally i think shes way better then Ralph
She is very sharp, very quick, professional, clearly studies the sport, and doesnt talk about anything irrelevant compared to Ralph "talks about marvins cats" Shaheen.
To The Chopper wrote:
Will is flat knocking it out of the park. She asks great questions, and has very clearly taken the time to get to know who's who...
Will is flat knocking it out of the park. She asks great questions, and has very clearly taken the time to get to know who's who and what the relevant stories are each week/season. A+

Maybe she could educate Ralph on something other than bike colors.... I can't imagine what he thinks Davalos is riding....?
Are you talking about RALPH LAWLER IN THE BLUE JACKET !!!!!
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To The Chopper 1/26/2020 4:10pm
1/26/2020 4:10pm
yz133rider wrote:
Personally i think shes way better then Ralph She is very sharp, very quick, professional, clearly studies the sport, and doesnt talk about anything irrelevant compared...
Personally i think shes way better then Ralph
She is very sharp, very quick, professional, clearly studies the sport, and doesnt talk about anything irrelevant compared to Ralph "talks about marvins cats" Shaheen.
To The Chopper wrote:
Will is flat knocking it out of the park. She asks great questions, and has very clearly taken the time to get to know who's who...
Will is flat knocking it out of the park. She asks great questions, and has very clearly taken the time to get to know who's who and what the relevant stories are each week/season. A+

Maybe she could educate Ralph on something other than bike colors.... I can't imagine what he thinks Davalos is riding....?
Underground wrote:
Are you talking about RALPH LAWLER IN THE BLUE JACKET !!!!!
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Dear god what have I done....
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at the beginning of the broadcast ralphie was really trying hard to sell the dylan/craig drama. i found that pretty annoying considering everyone already knew there wasnt going to be any type of pay back/drama. cant recall who said it earlier in the thread, but i 100% agree that ralph makes it seem like a “show” instead of a sport.
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MattyVicious 1/26/2020 11:23pm
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I agree. He brought the tv event to the next level. Ralph and ricky are cringe worthy at best.
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EZZA 95B 1/27/2020 1:01am
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According to Will, Ken and Justin have "literally" been swapping parts! Budget must be tight at Honda.
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yz133rider wrote:
Personally i think shes way better then Ralph She is very sharp, very quick, professional, clearly studies the sport, and doesnt talk about anything irrelevant compared...
Personally i think shes way better then Ralph
She is very sharp, very quick, professional, clearly studies the sport, and doesnt talk about anything irrelevant compared to Ralph "talks about marvins cats" Shaheen.
Musquin is the first one to talk about Marvin's cats.
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GODZILLA 1/27/2020 1:49am
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yz133rider wrote:
Agreed. If you haven't sat thru hours of that guy dropping the ball week after week, year after year, you really should stay out of it...
Agreed. If you haven't sat thru hours of that guy dropping the ball week after week, year after year, you really should stay out of it.

He's terrible at his job. Diffey was a massive improvement. Paul Malin is an example of another true professional. Will Christien does an outstanding job as well.

Ralph doesnt know the sport, hardly knows the riders, doesnt understand the physics, the tracks, the scoring, the bikes, he just isnt with it.

He has a monster jam level understanding of the sport and treats it as such.

He drums up fake drama, has horrible go to lines, and brings nothing of value to the show.

As hardcore fans we watch the show week in and week out, we pick up on this and are voicing it. Which is the point of a discussion forum, no?
Haaaaa, personal opinions...
In all honesty, I thought from day one that Daniel Blair (who almost everybody likes) sucks massively.
Don't like his face, his hair gel, his voice, his tone.
He plays the expert, yet I never ever learn anything from him.
And his habit of putting his midget ankles in the ruts to show how deep they are is plain stupid...
Voilà.
Still, I bravely endure it and never considered opening a thread to say how bad I think he his...
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Oh, btw, expressing your discontent here is useless -except for breaking a few balls.
If you absolutely want a chance to get him fired, send a mail to Feld and NBC.
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Patrick461 1/27/2020 1:57am
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Ralf all he can seem to talk about is Eli when Eli is not winning the race. It’s like the only name he knows. Rc and Ralph should be at the unemployment office. How they have jobs I don’t understand
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Bearuno 1/27/2020 2:08am
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Off the direct subject here, but, a previous post(s) has / have alluded to Feld / SX seeming to want nothing to do with the MX series.

It baffles me - no, pisses me off - that it seems verboten to have any mention of The Outdoors from the SX announcers. It's just so bloody stupid, nay, childish.

Yet, strangely, for at least the last couple of years, I've seen Feld / SX Emblems , on the US MX Des Nations jerseys. I assume they must be contributing a bit of 'coin' to the effort?
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Dougy1 1/27/2020 2:30am
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RG1 wrote:
Leigh coming in for the first 3 rounds did no favours for Ralph. The commentary was awful in comparison to the first 3 weeks. Diffey is...
Leigh coming in for the first 3 rounds did no favours for Ralph. The commentary was awful in comparison to the first 3 weeks. Diffey is a true professional, the commentary seems fluid when he’s on the mic and he makes his co-commentators better. I like Ralph, he’s okay, but they can do better. Weigandt is much better, works for NBC, I don’t know why they won’t give him a shot at it
Why bother when most here seem to think Leigh kills it.
Be wayyy too much of Weege doing SX Mx and podcasts he’s every where..
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shmacky78 wrote:
I hate to say this, but listening to Will Christian shouting over the noise on the floor every so often was more annoying than Ralph. she...
I hate to say this, but listening to Will Christian shouting over the noise on the floor every so often was more annoying than Ralph. she just kept going on and on, shouting in that high voice about absolutely NOTHING relevant on the track.... sorry I know she’s cute and all, but let the thumbs down 👎 fly 😂😂
yz133rider wrote:
Personally i think shes way better then Ralph She is very sharp, very quick, professional, clearly studies the sport, and doesnt talk about anything irrelevant compared...
Personally i think shes way better then Ralph
She is very sharp, very quick, professional, clearly studies the sport, and doesnt talk about anything irrelevant compared to Ralph "talks about marvins cats" Shaheen.
Marvin's cats?
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RG1 wrote:
Leigh coming in for the first 3 rounds did no favours for Ralph. The commentary was awful in comparison to the first 3 weeks. Diffey is...
Leigh coming in for the first 3 rounds did no favours for Ralph. The commentary was awful in comparison to the first 3 weeks. Diffey is a true professional, the commentary seems fluid when he’s on the mic and he makes his co-commentators better. I like Ralph, he’s okay, but they can do better. Weigandt is much better, works for NBC, I don’t know why they won’t give him a shot at it
Dougy1 wrote:
Why bother when most here seem to think Leigh kills it.
Be wayyy too much of Weege doing SX Mx and podcasts he’s every where..
I agree, Leigh would be great, but he covers many different sports and I’m guessing that he probably wouldn’t be available for the entire season. Weege would be better than Ralph is all I’m trying to say
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Jasper125 1/27/2020 8:28am
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Fun fact!: Ralph likes to talk about mr fun fact mosiman having alot of fun facts while the race is going on. Fun fact did you know..... blablablabla fuck me just call the fucking race and focus on the red honda's and green kawaski's for crying out loud
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motomad724 1/27/2020 8:52am
1/27/2020 8:52am
I don't think I heard anything about red Hondas, green Kawasakis, yellow Suzukis and so on... It was refreshing not hearing it, but Ralph still needs to go
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shmacky78 1/29/2020 1:02pm
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shmacky78 wrote:
I hate to say this, but listening to Will Christian shouting over the noise on the floor every so often was more annoying than Ralph. she...
I hate to say this, but listening to Will Christian shouting over the noise on the floor every so often was more annoying than Ralph. she just kept going on and on, shouting in that high voice about absolutely NOTHING relevant on the track.... sorry I know she’s cute and all, but let the thumbs down 👎 fly 😂😂
yz133rider wrote:
Personally i think shes way better then Ralph She is very sharp, very quick, professional, clearly studies the sport, and doesnt talk about anything irrelevant compared...
Personally i think shes way better then Ralph
She is very sharp, very quick, professional, clearly studies the sport, and doesnt talk about anything irrelevant compared to Ralph "talks about marvins cats" Shaheen.
To The Chopper wrote:
Will is flat knocking it out of the park. She asks great questions, and has very clearly taken the time to get to know who's who...
Will is flat knocking it out of the park. She asks great questions, and has very clearly taken the time to get to know who's who and what the relevant stories are each week/season. A+

Maybe she could educate Ralph on something other than bike colors.... I can't imagine what he thinks Davalos is riding....?
She’s good and all .. just the shouting in that high voice over the noise onthe floor about speaking to a mechanic who said cooper Webb ate a sandwich yesterday and he feels like sesame seeds are a good fit with roast beef and he needs to get better starts is a bit annoying ... just stick to the podium Will
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GuyB wrote:
I think we need to add another room below the Dumbgeon called, "Oh God, Not Another Thread Bitching About The Announcers."
Zaugg wrote:
Can we please do this? The cry-babies that can't appreciate what they have will now have a place to go and complain, saving the rest of...
Can we please do this?

The cry-babies that can't appreciate what they have will now have a place to go and complain, saving the rest of us from seeing YET ANOTHER ANNOUNCER BASHING THREAD.





I'm all for a dedicated sub-forum just for the announcing complaints. Add one about the NBC sports app while you're at it. I seriously think people start their own thread just to feel like their voice is finally heard since it get's buried in the 1,000 comments from one of the other 100 threads.
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I think we need to start a page about the photo's these journalist take.
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GuyB wrote:
I think we need to add another room below the Dumbgeon called, "Oh God, Not Another Thread Bitching About The Announcers."
Zaugg wrote:
Can we please do this? The cry-babies that can't appreciate what they have will now have a place to go and complain, saving the rest of...
Can we please do this?

The cry-babies that can't appreciate what they have will now have a place to go and complain, saving the rest of us from seeing YET ANOTHER ANNOUNCER BASHING THREAD.





ProKawi24 wrote:
I'm all for a dedicated sub-forum just for the announcing complaints. Add one about the NBC sports app while you're at it. I seriously think people...
I'm all for a dedicated sub-forum just for the announcing complaints. Add one about the NBC sports app while you're at it. I seriously think people start their own thread just to feel like their voice is finally heard since it get's buried in the 1,000 comments from one of the other 100 threads.
Yay! I've finally been heard!! Haha
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Could we possibly get someone new that actually knows SC?

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