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I see someone posting about Chris Kresser, and how he opposes the plant based diet. I'm neither for it or against it myself and I'm no expert in nutrition. Kresser is a whackjob and basically a cult leader. He is an ACUPUNCTURIST who acts like he has a MD in internal medicine, gastroenterology, oncology, nephrology, etc, etc.
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Chris_Kresser
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The World Health Organization has classified processed meats – including ham, salami, bacon and frankfurts – as a Group 1 carcinogen which means that there is strong evidence that processed meats cause cancer. Red meat, such as beef, lamb and pork has been classified as a 'probable' cause of cancer.
You should have known
https://youtu.be/s0zgNY_kqlI
Often people eat 'comfort food' that makes them feel good but is terrible fuel.
The idea to follow the money is fair however there's a difference between an oil company knowing that what they are doing is ruining the planet so they create a cabal of 'think tanks' and fund right wing media to pretend that scientists are crazy and do everything with the political and media power their extreme wealth gives them. That is a case of follow the money on every single media or 'expert' that makes any sort of claim the climate change is a hoax. Follow that money its really scary from a democratic society point of view.
To me that is slightly different to seeing that Meat production is terrible in so many ways, even if the product when eaten is great fuel, and starting a company that produces protein in a less terrible way. The problem is trying argue that vegetables is a better fuel source than grass fed free range steak is fucking stupid and not true. However for the majority of people that eat shit or processed or fast food 'meat' then fresh vegetables are a much better fuel source. And the production of vegetables is far better than meat production in lots of ways.
ps. I've been Keto for a year off and on. The first three months with strict tracking and have lost 10Kg and kept it off. As a wheelchair user Keto (with tracked limited calories) was the only way to burn fat when I have limited muscle usage. I eat a shit ton of meat but im also aware that for a lot of people simply cutting meat out of their diet will lead to a massive health improvement, due to cutting out lots of fast food access.
Dude just shouted throughout and again Kresser’s point isn’t you can’t be vegan, just it’s probably not the most effective and you need to be on your game to be so.
He also accused kresser of doing the same shit he did, my experts, these studies, authoritarian logic and you’ve got a supplements business. Was painful as fuck. I’d say listen again but I wouldn’t want to put anyone through it.
Like I said to my mate, just be sensible, whatever your eating style. Ain’t hard.
This is why lots of studies are about statistical correlation because that’s as accurate as you can get.
However it’s now common knowledge that the fats are bad campaign was funded by the sugar industry. And the food triangle was invented to ensure the excess food grown And subsidized during the war was consumed.
What I would say is that as soon as you starting thinking about the food you eat and consuming it for fuel then you will likely have a better relationship with it and be healthier for it.
The biggest sources would be things like soy (e.g. tofu), beans, nuts (e.g. peanut butter), and things like chickpeas & quinoa. A few of the slides at the link below describe where it can be found outside animals.
https://www.webmd.com/healthy-aging/ss/slideshow-how-to-get-protein
It was also a point made on the Rogan podcast that the most protein intake that is recommended for people specifically interested in gaining as much muscle as quickly as possible is something like 1.2-2 g per kg of body weight, and consuming any more than that provides no additional benefit. This seems consistent with the info at this webmd link below.
https://www.webmd.com/vitamins-and-supplements/features/protein-powder
That can definitely be achieved on a plant based diet if you’re eating right. For example, a few days ago I had the following meals:
Breakfast: Oatmeal with banana
Lunch: Massive salad that included chickpeas, quinoa, & veggies
Dinner: Veggie burritos
My protein consumption that day was 111 g based on tracking my macros with the myfitnesspal app, which is within the 1.2-2 g per kg range (it’s 1.3 g per kg for me at 185 lbs). That’s sufficient protein for a competitive athlete, per the webmd link (not that I am).
Just eat clean and get your heart rate up more than once a week. It's not hard to feel good. People make shit more difficult than it needs to be.
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Whats the joke? How do you know if someone is vegan?
This is how every thread I’ve seen on the topic goes.
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