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10/11/2019 1:41pm
Ramrod wrote:
I totally agree with you on Savatgy’s image and all. He’s no Kevin Windham per say. BUT, really, why should he give a shit about what...
I totally agree with you on Savatgy’s image and all. He’s no Kevin Windham per say.

BUT, really, why should he give a shit about what anybody thinks? What matters to him is racing and getting results on the track. If racers were so worried about getting the proverbial thumbs up from everybody, they would flame out. Not the rabbit hole you want to go down. I would rather Joey or anyone else say what they want and let their racing tell the story.
Well unfortunately his racing is telling the story that he can't handle pressure and he fades as the race goes on so maybe he might want to work on that and his Q factor. Cool Very few factory rides anymore so you better have the whole package or you may not land on a team.
10/11/2019 1:43pm Edited Date/Time 10/11/2019 1:44pm
Brent wrote:
I'm sure hoping Savatgy lines up in Vegas, if only to keep another Million out of Tomac's bank account. Eli should have learned how to tip...
I'm sure hoping Savatgy lines up in Vegas, if only to keep another Million out of Tomac's bank account.

Eli should have learned how to tip last year...
Tomac would have done the Osborne punt version number two if he hadn't moved aside.
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10/11/2019 2:27pm
"The guy I don't care about on the bike I don't care about"

Fixed it for ya. Good thing nobody cares what you think.
Guess that's why he spent the last few months wondering which of his many great contract proposals he was gonna go for...
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10/11/2019 2:32pm Edited Date/Time 10/11/2019 3:12pm
GODZILLA wrote:
Guess that's why he spent the last few months wondering which of his many great contract proposals he was gonna go for...
Laughing
Don’t know what you do for a living and I don’t care, but I can guarantee his life is a lot better than yours. Keep on hating fool.

There’s 12 people in the world that will be on a factory 450 ride for SX next year and he’s one of them. You’re right, what a failure.
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Maybe some day you'll learn the difference between hate and a slight sarcasm.
Unfortunately for Savatgy, I think I'm quite close to the truth, at least for now...
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10/11/2019 4:03pm
Did y’all miss Keefer’s tweet about Joey having a one year deal at JGR?
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10/11/2019 4:19pm
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Hmmm? I wonder if this is where he'll land? Never been a big fan of the guy , but his speed and talent definitely deserve a...
Hmmm? I wonder if this is where he'll land? Never been a big fan of the guy , but his speed and talent definitely deserve a good bike / team under him. Lots of shake up's so far this season.
He deserves a better bike & team.
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10/11/2019 6:21pm
jeffro503 wrote:
Hmmm? I wonder if this is where he'll land? Never been a big fan of the guy , but his speed and talent definitely deserve a...
Hmmm? I wonder if this is where he'll land? Never been a big fan of the guy , but his speed and talent definitely deserve a good bike / team under him. Lots of shake up's so far this season.
davistld01 wrote:
He deserves a better bike & team.
Such as?
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10/11/2019 6:53pm
jeffro503 wrote:
Hmmm? I wonder if this is where he'll land? Never been a big fan of the guy , but his speed and talent definitely deserve a...
Hmmm? I wonder if this is where he'll land? Never been a big fan of the guy , but his speed and talent definitely deserve a good bike / team under him. Lots of shake up's so far this season.
davistld01 wrote:
He deserves a better bike & team.
Such as?
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10/14/2019 9:44pm
It would be dope to see jgr and him do well.
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10/15/2019 2:52am
Brent wrote:
I'm sure hoping Savatgy lines up in Vegas, if only to keep another Million out of Tomac's bank account. Eli should have learned how to tip...
I'm sure hoping Savatgy lines up in Vegas, if only to keep another Million out of Tomac's bank account.

Eli should have learned how to tip last year...
lostboy819 wrote:
Tomac would have done the Osborne punt version number two if he hadn't moved aside.
He would have had to catch Joey to punt him, Joey was riding on another level at MEC last year.
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10/15/2019 2:58am Edited Date/Time 10/15/2019 3:02am
ecoultmx27 wrote:
Hope the best for JS17. He is a talented rider that has obviously worked his butt off to get where he is. So interesting how people...
Hope the best for JS17. He is a talented rider that has obviously worked his butt off to get where he is.

So interesting how people on the forum feel it's necessary to state whether they are a "fan" of a rider. How could it be more obvious these guys don't care what is said about them personally on these forums? I would hope, most of us on here are fans of racing/dirtbikes before fans of a particular rider. I can see why most of them don't(and shouldn't) browse this stuff, who would want to read about whether or not some stranger gives their seal of approval about you personally.



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ecoultmx27 wrote:
Hope the best for JS17. He is a talented rider that has obviously worked his butt off to get where he is. So interesting how people...
Hope the best for JS17. He is a talented rider that has obviously worked his butt off to get where he is.

So interesting how people on the forum feel it's necessary to state whether they are a "fan" of a rider. How could it be more obvious these guys don't care what is said about them personally on these forums? I would hope, most of us on here are fans of racing/dirtbikes before fans of a particular rider. I can see why most of them don't(and shouldn't) browse this stuff, who would want to read about whether or not some stranger gives their seal of approval about you personally.



make up your mind?

they dont care what people say on sm
or
they shouldnt read whats said about them on sm

no matter how mentally tough you are, shit will get to you, so best not to read it, or have it filtered for you..

im glad there was no sm when i switched from mx to music got in a band that became popular.

I got slammed by other musos with much more experience etc.

anyway js 17 deserves another ride fersur.

he does need to loosen up and enjoy it as much as he can, cause he,ll be along time not a pro mxer
and not loaded like rv, rc, rd.
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10/15/2019 3:47am Edited Date/Time 10/15/2019 3:56am
Lots of riders, with sub par results, have gotten rides because of their attitudes/personalities, which created a social media following & fan base, in turn making...
Lots of riders, with sub par results, have gotten rides because of their attitudes/personalities, which created a social media following & fan base, in turn making them more desirable to teams. That’s why he should care more about his PR.
Crossup wrote:
Not what Mathes was saying recently, that teams pay for riders that get results and not selecting riders for social media fandom.
Not everything what Pulpie says is true 🙈 Anyway... listen to EXHAUST PODCAST ( Jason Weigandt ) everyone can twist a throttle these days so Marketing / social media gets more and more important for the Riders. If you have 100k followers on instagram you can do paid partnerships this goes from $ 30,- upto $ 10.000,- for one single post ( there are storys known $ 100.000,- for one single post ) so I see instagram simular as that riches local business owner who help you with some your extra income.
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10/15/2019 5:32am
He would have had to catch Joey to punt him, Joey was riding on another level at MEC last year.
So I guess you have not watched it? Tomac came from 5th and like 5 seconds down to being on his ass. To clarify that, Tomac overtook 3 guys while riding faster then JS17 did. He had 2 options, let him by safely or risk getting punted.
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He would have had to catch Joey to punt him, Joey was riding on another level at MEC last year.
KTMmarkus wrote:
So I guess you have not watched it? Tomac came from 5th and like 5 seconds down to being on his ass. To clarify that, Tomac...
So I guess you have not watched it? Tomac came from 5th and like 5 seconds down to being on his ass. To clarify that, Tomac overtook 3 guys while riding faster then JS17 did. He had 2 options, let him by safely or risk getting punted.
Personally I'm of the opinion that Joey had it all under control and could've dropped a couple seconds a lap if he needed to. If he wanted to. But he wanted to finish his first race on a 450 without wadding himself and he wanted (at the time) to hand the win to his team mate so he wasn't stressed about the gap getting closer.

I think letting Eli by was lame all the same. But I do think that if he wanted to win it, he could've hung in there for the win.
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10/15/2019 6:06am
KTMmarkus wrote:
So I guess you have not watched it? Tomac came from 5th and like 5 seconds down to being on his ass. To clarify that, Tomac...
So I guess you have not watched it? Tomac came from 5th and like 5 seconds down to being on his ass. To clarify that, Tomac overtook 3 guys while riding faster then JS17 did. He had 2 options, let him by safely or risk getting punted.
Tomac was the fastest rider, period. Having said that, Joey would have easily won that last main event if he wanted to. I am not sure where and how you expected this punting to occur, but it was not happening on that track with the time and layout left.
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Lots of riders, with sub par results, have gotten rides because of their attitudes/personalities, which created a social media following & fan base, in turn making...
Lots of riders, with sub par results, have gotten rides because of their attitudes/personalities, which created a social media following & fan base, in turn making them more desirable to teams. That’s why he should care more about his PR.
Crossup wrote:
Not what Mathes was saying recently, that teams pay for riders that get results and not selecting riders for social media fandom.
steed 2.0 wrote:
Not everything what Pulpie says is true 🙈 Anyway... listen to [url=https://racerxonline.com/2019/08/22/exhaust-podcast-how-racing-works]EXHAUST PODCAST[/url] ( Jason Weigandt ) everyone can twist a throttle these days so Marketing...
Not everything what Pulpie says is true 🙈 Anyway... listen to EXHAUST PODCAST ( Jason Weigandt ) everyone can twist a throttle these days so Marketing / social media gets more and more important for the Riders. If you have 100k followers on instagram you can do paid partnerships this goes from $ 30,- upto $ 10.000,- for one single post ( there are storys known $ 100.000,- for one single post ) so I see instagram simular as that riches local business owner who help you with some your extra income.
Maybe social media is more important for the RIDERS for their OWN brands.

Re-read. I responded to the above "... a social media following & fan base, in turn making them more desirable to teams..."

So you are saying that a rider sitting at the table with a factory team, the team is judging whether to contract a rider based on social media followers? I think that is BS. They are want to select a rider and pay for results.
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10/15/2019 9:03am
Crossup wrote:
Not what Mathes was saying recently, that teams pay for riders that get results and not selecting riders for social media fandom.
steed 2.0 wrote:
Not everything what Pulpie says is true 🙈 Anyway... listen to [url=https://racerxonline.com/2019/08/22/exhaust-podcast-how-racing-works]EXHAUST PODCAST[/url] ( Jason Weigandt ) everyone can twist a throttle these days so Marketing...
Not everything what Pulpie says is true 🙈 Anyway... listen to EXHAUST PODCAST ( Jason Weigandt ) everyone can twist a throttle these days so Marketing / social media gets more and more important for the Riders. If you have 100k followers on instagram you can do paid partnerships this goes from $ 30,- upto $ 10.000,- for one single post ( there are storys known $ 100.000,- for one single post ) so I see instagram simular as that riches local business owner who help you with some your extra income.
Crossup wrote:
Maybe social media is more important for the RIDERS for their OWN brands. Re-read. I responded to the above "... a social media following & fan...
Maybe social media is more important for the RIDERS for their OWN brands.

Re-read. I responded to the above "... a social media following & fan base, in turn making them more desirable to teams..."

So you are saying that a rider sitting at the table with a factory team, the team is judging whether to contract a rider based on social media followers? I think that is BS. They are want to select a rider and pay for results.
social media absolutely comes into play. you have two riders to choose from- Rider A 900k followers, Rider B 10k followers. similar results throughout the year. who do you think is going to get the spot??? you would be crazy to sign Rider B. Rider A gets your company recognition, what is exactly what companies want when sponsoring. it's really not that hard to understand.
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10/15/2019 9:08am
steed 2.0 wrote:
Not everything what Pulpie says is true 🙈 Anyway... listen to [url=https://racerxonline.com/2019/08/22/exhaust-podcast-how-racing-works]EXHAUST PODCAST[/url] ( Jason Weigandt ) everyone can twist a throttle these days so Marketing...
Not everything what Pulpie says is true 🙈 Anyway... listen to EXHAUST PODCAST ( Jason Weigandt ) everyone can twist a throttle these days so Marketing / social media gets more and more important for the Riders. If you have 100k followers on instagram you can do paid partnerships this goes from $ 30,- upto $ 10.000,- for one single post ( there are storys known $ 100.000,- for one single post ) so I see instagram simular as that riches local business owner who help you with some your extra income.
Crossup wrote:
Maybe social media is more important for the RIDERS for their OWN brands. Re-read. I responded to the above "... a social media following & fan...
Maybe social media is more important for the RIDERS for their OWN brands.

Re-read. I responded to the above "... a social media following & fan base, in turn making them more desirable to teams..."

So you are saying that a rider sitting at the table with a factory team, the team is judging whether to contract a rider based on social media followers? I think that is BS. They are want to select a rider and pay for results.
cbarber wrote:
social media absolutely comes into play. you have two riders to choose from- Rider A 900k followers, Rider B 10k followers. similar results throughout the year...
social media absolutely comes into play. you have two riders to choose from- Rider A 900k followers, Rider B 10k followers. similar results throughout the year. who do you think is going to get the spot??? you would be crazy to sign Rider B. Rider A gets your company recognition, what is exactly what companies want when sponsoring. it's really not that hard to understand.
Sorry, but this is a bad take. Results > Social Media.

If teams hired based on Instagram followers, Ronnie Mac would have a factory ride.
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10/15/2019 9:14am
KTMmarkus wrote:
So I guess you have not watched it? Tomac came from 5th and like 5 seconds down to being on his ass. To clarify that, Tomac...
So I guess you have not watched it? Tomac came from 5th and like 5 seconds down to being on his ass. To clarify that, Tomac overtook 3 guys while riding faster then JS17 did. He had 2 options, let him by safely or risk getting punted.
Jt$ wrote:
Tomac was the fastest rider, period. Having said that, Joey would have easily won that last main event if he wanted to. I am not sure...
Tomac was the fastest rider, period. Having said that, Joey would have easily won that last main event if he wanted to. I am not sure where and how you expected this punting to occur, but it was not happening on that track with the time and layout left.
JT lets just sit back and watch all this nonsense happen ahaha..

Joey will be fighting for wins all year this year assuming he gets a team lined up by beginning of November. Hopefully its a 2 year contract to watch him really perform.
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Crossup wrote:
Maybe social media is more important for the RIDERS for their OWN brands. Re-read. I responded to the above "... a social media following & fan...
Maybe social media is more important for the RIDERS for their OWN brands.

Re-read. I responded to the above "... a social media following & fan base, in turn making them more desirable to teams..."

So you are saying that a rider sitting at the table with a factory team, the team is judging whether to contract a rider based on social media followers? I think that is BS. They are want to select a rider and pay for results.
Bike manufactures place very little value on social media when looking for a rider, that is what a brand ambassador is for but gear,parts and accessory companies will rely on their media coverage to increase sales therefore social media will play a large part in determining what value the rider is worth to the company.
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10/15/2019 9:17am
Crossup wrote:
Maybe social media is more important for the RIDERS for their OWN brands. Re-read. I responded to the above "... a social media following & fan...
Maybe social media is more important for the RIDERS for their OWN brands.

Re-read. I responded to the above "... a social media following & fan base, in turn making them more desirable to teams..."

So you are saying that a rider sitting at the table with a factory team, the team is judging whether to contract a rider based on social media followers? I think that is BS. They are want to select a rider and pay for results.
cbarber wrote:
social media absolutely comes into play. you have two riders to choose from- Rider A 900k followers, Rider B 10k followers. similar results throughout the year...
social media absolutely comes into play. you have two riders to choose from- Rider A 900k followers, Rider B 10k followers. similar results throughout the year. who do you think is going to get the spot??? you would be crazy to sign Rider B. Rider A gets your company recognition, what is exactly what companies want when sponsoring. it's really not that hard to understand.
Sorry, but this is a bad take. Results > Social Media.

If teams hired based on Instagram followers, Ronnie Mac would have a factory ride.
seems to me ole 69 is doing ok for himself.

never did I say that social media > over results. you assumed that on your own. re-read it.
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ecoultmx27 wrote:
Hope the best for JS17. He is a talented rider that has obviously worked his butt off to get where he is. So interesting how people...
Hope the best for JS17. He is a talented rider that has obviously worked his butt off to get where he is.

So interesting how people on the forum feel it's necessary to state whether they are a "fan" of a rider. How could it be more obvious these guys don't care what is said about them personally on these forums? I would hope, most of us on here are fans of racing/dirtbikes before fans of a particular rider. I can see why most of them don't(and shouldn't) browse this stuff, who would want to read about whether or not some stranger gives their seal of approval about you personally.



make up your mind? they dont care what people say on sm or they shouldnt read whats said about them on sm no matter how mentally...
make up your mind?

they dont care what people say on sm
or
they shouldnt read whats said about them on sm

no matter how mentally tough you are, shit will get to you, so best not to read it, or have it filtered for you..

im glad there was no sm when i switched from mx to music got in a band that became popular.

I got slammed by other musos with much more experience etc.

anyway js 17 deserves another ride fersur.

he does need to loosen up and enjoy it as much as he can, cause he,ll be along time not a pro mxer
and not loaded like rv, rc, rd.
I honestly don't care if the rider's read it or not, their decision. I just know if I were in their shoes and I DID read it, I wouldn't care what a stranger thought of my personality, lifestyle, etc(basically the stuff that has nothing to do with racing). Therefore, it seems silly and petty to put a negative light on someone you don't even know, just my opinion.

So I'm not sure what you meant by make up your mind. I'm saying that everyone is different, and i'm sure they do what is best for them. I'm sure there are plenty of racers with enough mental toughness to not let negative SM hinder their racing effort, while some may have a harder time with it. Seem reasonable?

Can't wait for the Monster Cup!
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lostboy819 wrote:
Tomac would have done the Osborne punt version number two if he hadn't moved aside.
If that happened... there would not be a psychologist on this planet who would be able to help Joey sort through that PTSD. Laughing
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cbarber wrote:
social media absolutely comes into play. you have two riders to choose from- Rider A 900k followers, Rider B 10k followers. similar results throughout the year...
social media absolutely comes into play. you have two riders to choose from- Rider A 900k followers, Rider B 10k followers. similar results throughout the year. who do you think is going to get the spot??? you would be crazy to sign Rider B. Rider A gets your company recognition, what is exactly what companies want when sponsoring. it's really not that hard to understand.
I just did a quick look at riders and their Instagram followers. If I were building an race team, I would want to consider this for sure. The top 10 SX riders are listed, other riders and some retirees.

Interesting that the Crtwotwo guy has almost the highest following for an active rider, but not signed to any team. I heard he is not available. I hear he is renting a van and bought a Honda from a from a local dealer.

Not so sure about that Cooperwebb2 or that Jeffrey_Herlings84 guy.

Uncleronnie69 looks like a winner! Anyone know his number? Believe the Hype! (Maybe I will make some T-shirts)




haha!!

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Crossup wrote:
I just did a quick look at riders and their Instagram followers. If I were building an race team, I would want to consider this for...
I just did a quick look at riders and their Instagram followers. If I were building an race team, I would want to consider this for sure. The top 10 SX riders are listed, other riders and some retirees.

Interesting that the Crtwotwo guy has almost the highest following for an active rider, but not signed to any team. I heard he is not available. I hear he is renting a van and bought a Honda from a from a local dealer.

Not so sure about that Cooperwebb2 or that Jeffrey_Herlings84 guy.

Uncleronnie69 looks like a winner! Anyone know his number? Believe the Hype! (Maybe I will make some T-shirts)




haha!!

okay.. lets compare Benny Blose and Justin Bogle.
Blose 25,000 followers on Instagram
Bogle 226,000 followers on Instagram

who do you pick to represent your product, company, bike etc? 200,000 more eyes is a lot. spin it how you want if you don't think it matters.
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KTMmarkus wrote:
So I guess you have not watched it? Tomac came from 5th and like 5 seconds down to being on his ass. To clarify that, Tomac...
So I guess you have not watched it? Tomac came from 5th and like 5 seconds down to being on his ass. To clarify that, Tomac overtook 3 guys while riding faster then JS17 did. He had 2 options, let him by safely or risk getting punted.
Jt$ wrote:
Tomac was the fastest rider, period. Having said that, Joey would have easily won that last main event if he wanted to. I am not sure...
Tomac was the fastest rider, period. Having said that, Joey would have easily won that last main event if he wanted to. I am not sure where and how you expected this punting to occur, but it was not happening on that track with the time and layout left.
Old School Hi-5!

Made me spit my coffee all over the screen!
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Crossup wrote:
I just did a quick look at riders and their Instagram followers. If I were building an race team, I would want to consider this for...
I just did a quick look at riders and their Instagram followers. If I were building an race team, I would want to consider this for sure. The top 10 SX riders are listed, other riders and some retirees.

Interesting that the Crtwotwo guy has almost the highest following for an active rider, but not signed to any team. I heard he is not available. I hear he is renting a van and bought a Honda from a from a local dealer.

Not so sure about that Cooperwebb2 or that Jeffrey_Herlings84 guy.

Uncleronnie69 looks like a winner! Anyone know his number? Believe the Hype! (Maybe I will make some T-shirts)




haha!!

cbarber wrote:
okay.. lets compare Benny Blose and Justin Bogle. Blose 25,000 followers on Instagram Bogle 226,000 followers on Instagram who do you pick to represent your product...
okay.. lets compare Benny Blose and Justin Bogle.
Blose 25,000 followers on Instagram
Bogle 226,000 followers on Instagram

who do you pick to represent your product, company, bike etc? 200,000 more eyes is a lot. spin it how you want if you don't think it matters.
Whoever has the better results. Why wouldn’t any team hire stew during his “maybe I’ll come back” years? Why did Honda pick JB Over someone with more followers?
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Crossup wrote:
I just did a quick look at riders and their Instagram followers. If I were building an race team, I would want to consider this for...
I just did a quick look at riders and their Instagram followers. If I were building an race team, I would want to consider this for sure. The top 10 SX riders are listed, other riders and some retirees.

Interesting that the Crtwotwo guy has almost the highest following for an active rider, but not signed to any team. I heard he is not available. I hear he is renting a van and bought a Honda from a from a local dealer.

Not so sure about that Cooperwebb2 or that Jeffrey_Herlings84 guy.

Uncleronnie69 looks like a winner! Anyone know his number? Believe the Hype! (Maybe I will make some T-shirts)




haha!!

cbarber wrote:
okay.. lets compare Benny Blose and Justin Bogle. Blose 25,000 followers on Instagram Bogle 226,000 followers on Instagram who do you pick to represent your product...
okay.. lets compare Benny Blose and Justin Bogle.
Blose 25,000 followers on Instagram
Bogle 226,000 followers on Instagram

who do you pick to represent your product, company, bike etc? 200,000 more eyes is a lot. spin it how you want if you don't think it matters.
Whoever has the better results. Why wouldn’t any team hire stew during his “maybe I’ll come back” years? Why did Honda pick JB Over someone with...
Whoever has the better results. Why wouldn’t any team hire stew during his “maybe I’ll come back” years? Why did Honda pick JB Over someone with more followers?
Honda does not have outside sponsors, so they are a poor example for marketing. But for a team like RMATV or the energy drink companies it can make quite a difference.
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