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https://www.seattletimes.com/business/local-business/5-local-motorcycle…

5 Seattle-area motorcycle dealerships abruptly closed by their owner, a Microsoft executive
Sep. 23, 2019 at 4:36 pm Updated Sep. 23, 2019 at 10:23 pm

Seattle-area fans of BMW, Ducati and other high-end motorcycles got a rude shock last week when five local dealerships were shuttered by their owner, a Microsoft executive who is described as an avid motorcycle racer with little apparent experience in the industry.

On Thursday, workers at the five NobleRush dealerships — a joint BMW-Ducati-KTM location at 8100 Lake City Way in Seattle; a Ducati dealership in Redmond, and two multibrand dealerships in Auburn — learned that the businesses had been closed indefinitely, according to former employees, the previous owner of one of the dealerships, and social media posts by customers.

“The doors are closed until further notice,” a former employee confirmed Monday morning. There were also reports over the weekend that motorcycles were being removed from several of the shuttered dealerships.

The dealerships’ owner, Microsoft group program manager Howard Crow, couldn’t be reached for comment. A search of local court records found no related lawsuits or liens against Crow, or any bankruptcy filings.

The closures shook the local motorcycling world. “I cannot stress enough how huge a hit this is for the Seattle motorcycle community,” said Keith Thye, whose wife, Ann Thye, sold Crow the Seattle BMW dealership in 2015.

“Dealers come and go, but to have five go down all in one fell swoop is unheard of,” said Keith Thye, who was president of the dealership before the sale to Crow.

The closures also sparked panicked questions online from customers who had purchased new motorcycles and were now unsure when, or if, they would actually get their bikes.

“I just paid cash for a new bike there 2 weeks ago,” one customer of Ducati Redmond wrote on Facebook Saturday. “Was supposed to pick it up this weekend. Can’t get hold of anyone.”

Over the weekend, former employees at several NobleRush locations were working, without pay, to deliver bikes to customers and return bikes that had been brought in for repairs. “We are following through with our obligations to the existing customers,” the former employee said.

But as of Monday afternoon, there were still reports of some bikes being repossessed from several dealerships. Shortly before 3 p.m. Monday, a former customer emailed to report that a semi truck had backed up to one of the Lake City dealerships “and is loading bikes up now.”

It is unclear whether any locations will reopen or what the future holds for dozens of former employees or local riders who will now need to go elsewhere for service, parts and accessories.

In the Seattle-area motorcycle community, Crow is something of a mystery man. According to online reports, he was an enthusiastic racer; his LinkedIn profile shows that he has been at Microsoft since 1997, most recently as a manager of teams for Microsoft Planner, Project, Project Server and Project Online, but shows no motorcycle industry background.

Crow in 2012 bought Ducati Seattle, then located near South Lake Union, according to Tom Mehren, who publishes Sound Rider, a monthly motorcycling magazine. Crow also bought Bellevue Ducati (which he then relocated to Redmond), along with the Thyes’ BMW dealership, which then also became the new joint location for the Seattle Ducati dealership.

Crow’s biggest move came around 2017, with the purchase of Hinshaw’s Motorcycle Store and Indian Motorcycle, both in Auburn, according to the Thyes.

Some members of the local biking community had criticized Crow as an inexperienced, absentee manager who drove off longtime employees and reduced his dealerships’ cash flow by slashing prices in order to boost sales.

But the entire motorcycle business has been struggling in an era of low-cost online competition and “show-rooming” consumers who try out bikes and accessories in showrooms only to make their purchases online.

Those worsening conditions have some wondering about the future of the industry in the Seattle area.

Although there are other regional dealers — such as BMW Motorcycles of Lynnwood or South Sound Motorcycles in Tacoma — it’s not clear whether there are would-be dealers eager to replace the five NobleRush locations.

As Keith Thye put it, “if you had a couple of million dollars sitting around, is that where you’d want to invest it?”



Paul Roberts: proberts@seattletimes.com; on Twitter: @Pauledroberts.
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9/24/2019 7:29pm Edited Date/Time 9/24/2019 7:53pm
That really sucks. Noble Rush in Auburn is where I usually go just for HP2 fluids specifically. Most other places are either more expensive or too far away. Stopping by there and grabbing lunch with my son made for a good day....
Fuckin pissed.
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Shocker Seattle is fucking something up. Amazing.
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Shocker Seattle is fucking something up. Amazing.
LOL true, but Portland is nearly as bad.
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Who pays cash for two bikes and doesn’t immediately take them home? What a dumb ass...
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Shocker Seattle is fucking something up. Amazing.
mx510 wrote:
LOL true, but Portland is nearly as bad.
Feels like they both equally admire California
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9/25/2019 5:09pm
Shocker Seattle is fucking something up. Amazing.
mx510 wrote:
LOL true, but Portland is nearly as bad.
mxpro252 wrote:
Feels like they both equally admire California
More like the people from commiefornia won’t stop moving north and trying to mess our states up when they get here
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Brad460 wrote:
Who pays cash for two bikes and doesn’t immediately take them home? What a dumb ass...
Sometimes the dealers have to order in a specific model or trim, un-crate it, set it up with some accessories, etc.


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I passed by Noble Rush in Auburn on my way home from work today. Bikes were getting loaded up into trailers. Guess I'll be making more online purchases 👎
Lame.
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mx510 wrote:
LOL true, but Portland is nearly as bad.
mxpro252 wrote:
Feels like they both equally admire California
More like the people from commiefornia won’t stop moving north and trying to mess our states up when they get here
I don't think Seattle needed much help from California
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mxpro252 wrote:
Feels like they both equally admire California
More like the people from commiefornia won’t stop moving north and trying to mess our states up when they get here
I don't think Seattle needed much help from California
From my central CA view, the people who are moving out of CA are mostly conservatives.
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Shocker Seattle is fucking something up. Amazing.
Not sure what Seattle is fucking up in this situation. Dealerships close all over the country. The noteworthy thing here is that an enthusiast appears to have realized that investing in his hobby probably wasn't a great business plan.......
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APLMAN99 wrote:
Not sure what Seattle is fucking up in this situation. Dealerships close all over the country. The noteworthy thing here is that an enthusiast appears to...
Not sure what Seattle is fucking up in this situation. Dealerships close all over the country. The noteworthy thing here is that an enthusiast appears to have realized that investing in his hobby probably wasn't a great business plan.......
Or someone who thinks a business that makes 100 or more times investment is normal.
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9/25/2019 6:42pm Edited Date/Time 9/1/2026 6:11pm
More like the people from commiefornia won’t stop moving north and trying to mess our states up when they get here
I don't think Seattle needed much help from California
garagedog wrote:
From my central CA view, the people who are moving out of CA are mostly conservatives.
I hope they keep leaving
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9/25/2019 7:09pm
My only positive takeaway from this story are the genuine employees who delivered bikes in the service dept back to the clients, on their own dime.

Shitty story, hopefully the vacuum gets filled by good folks who hire the staff back.
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I don't think Seattle needed much help from California
garagedog wrote:
From my central CA view, the people who are moving out of CA are mostly conservatives.
Anonymous wrote:
I hope they keep leaving
The people from Cali or the conservatives or both?
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I loved Hinshaws. They always had good stock of parts and accessories, plus the old school bikes on the second floor. They went downhill almost immediately after being purchased by Noble Rush. I tried to support them, being really the only local shop around here, but quit going a few months ago.

The Indian shop was just sad, especially after Victory went out of business.

Sucks to lose a dealership especially since this side of Seattle is really limited.
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Sad to lose for sure. I remember going to the original Hinshaws off Auburn Way 25+ some years ago. Was a cool shop. Last time I was at Noblerush they were clearing out about 4 to 5 isle's of Moto/off-road accessories to make room (what I was told) for Side x side flooring space. I guess we just add it along with the unfortunately long list of Washington M/C shops that have folded their doors. On the plus side, the abundance of Mountain Bike shops that have popped up have flourished due to the closure of many, many, many motorized trail systems that are now closed to motorcycling.
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No way I would pay in cash full without getting the bike. Signed contract with a small deposit, sure, but all cash up front. Not happening.
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9/26/2019 9:34am
http://www.redmond-reporter.com/business/ducati-rolls-its-italian-motor…

In the release, Howard Crow, owner of Ducati Redmond and an avid motorcycle racer, added, “The motorcycle lifestyle is important to us. This new location is an incredible opportunity to reach new audiences, including those who frequent the Redmond Town Center who may have not previously been exposed to the brand. There’s a lot of foot traffic in the vicinity, and perhaps we’ll be able to get folks who have always had an interest in motorcycling to hop on one of our bikes and learn how to ride.”

He should probably stick to Microsofting
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http://www.redmond-reporter.com/business/ducati-rolls-its-italian-motorcycle-dealership-into-redmond-town-center/ In the release, Howard Crow, owner of Ducati Redmond and an avid motorcycle racer, added, “The motorcycle lifestyle is important to us. This new location...
http://www.redmond-reporter.com/business/ducati-rolls-its-italian-motor…

In the release, Howard Crow, owner of Ducati Redmond and an avid motorcycle racer, added, “The motorcycle lifestyle is important to us. This new location is an incredible opportunity to reach new audiences, including those who frequent the Redmond Town Center who may have not previously been exposed to the brand. There’s a lot of foot traffic in the vicinity, and perhaps we’ll be able to get folks who have always had an interest in motorcycling to hop on one of our bikes and learn how to ride.”

He should probably stick to Microsofting
Redmond Town Center is a ghost town compared to what it once was. Macy's had been trying to close their location for years but were locked in to a contract. Almost all the shops I remember being there years ago have closed up shop. I think he was banking on the young Microsoft crowd (kids with plenty of money), but did not realize almost all the tech kids around here are from California and strongly oppose any type of transportation that is not a bus or light rail.
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http://www.redmond-reporter.com/business/ducati-rolls-its-italian-motorcycle-dealership-into-redmond-town-center/ In the release, Howard Crow, owner of Ducati Redmond and an avid motorcycle racer, added, “The motorcycle lifestyle is important to us. This new location...
http://www.redmond-reporter.com/business/ducati-rolls-its-italian-motor…

In the release, Howard Crow, owner of Ducati Redmond and an avid motorcycle racer, added, “The motorcycle lifestyle is important to us. This new location is an incredible opportunity to reach new audiences, including those who frequent the Redmond Town Center who may have not previously been exposed to the brand. There’s a lot of foot traffic in the vicinity, and perhaps we’ll be able to get folks who have always had an interest in motorcycling to hop on one of our bikes and learn how to ride.”

He should probably stick to Microsofting
jrrundle wrote:
Redmond Town Center is a ghost town compared to what it once was. Macy's had been trying to close their location for years but were locked...
Redmond Town Center is a ghost town compared to what it once was. Macy's had been trying to close their location for years but were locked in to a contract. Almost all the shops I remember being there years ago have closed up shop. I think he was banking on the young Microsoft crowd (kids with plenty of money), but did not realize almost all the tech kids around here are from California and strongly oppose any type of transportation that is not a bus or light rail.
Macy's closed a couple of months ago, it will be yet another skyward apartment complex in Redmond (we got a few of them now huh? LOL) I work at the AT&T corporate buildings kitty corner in the parking lot to the Ducati / Alta, etc. dealer (here 22 years), I could almost throw a rock and hit the dealership. I just walked by and I could see the service dept. is working (dealership closed). I am assuming they are at least servicing the bikes in contract for service and closing that as well.

I concur with your assessment of the demographic shift happening here. I am a 45 year old who knows how to use basic hand tools, I don't fit in - at all. to make matters worse, I learned how to ride MX bikes on land where Microsoft corporate offices sit now (it was called 80 acres). My father learned how to ride horses where my office and the Ducati dealership sits, times have changed, 100% for the worse.


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Who pays cash for two bikes and doesn’t immediately take them home? What a dumb ass...
cwtoyota wrote:
Sometimes the dealers have to order in a specific model or trim, un-crate it, set it up with some accessories, etc.


Then you put down a deposit and pay the balance on delivery.
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jrrundle wrote:
Redmond Town Center is a ghost town compared to what it once was. Macy's had been trying to close their location for years but were locked...
Redmond Town Center is a ghost town compared to what it once was. Macy's had been trying to close their location for years but were locked in to a contract. Almost all the shops I remember being there years ago have closed up shop. I think he was banking on the young Microsoft crowd (kids with plenty of money), but did not realize almost all the tech kids around here are from California and strongly oppose any type of transportation that is not a bus or light rail.
The rail situation is about 4-5 decades late, to be honest. Seattle and/or Washington state should have planned ahead and did what most large cities did for mass transit a long time ago. Now it's much more costly and disruptive. I think they are still being short sighted by not planning for mass transit between Seattle and Spokane, but that's a whole different story. You can only keep laying down just so much asphalt, and the I-5 and I-405 areas in Seattle are just about tapped out.

Getting back to the dealership issues, I've always been amazed that there are as many bikes in the Seattle area as there are. I get the dirt bike thing, but the street riding is so limited compared to other areas. The unpredictability of the weather for 5 months out of the year is just a downer. When I did live in the Seattle area (Bellevue/Edmonds at different times) I wasn't overly confident commuting on my bike. I salute the guys who do, I just was never that die hard of a rider. I loved it during the summer, though!!!!!!

Over here we have winter to deal with, but it's much easier to know that when you leave the house in the morning that the weather has a good chance of being decent when you are heading back home. It's a lot more difficult over there. You have to wonder if they high end bikes are just too much of a luxury for some who don't want to commute in dismal weather on them.
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Its a bit of a drive but we are more than happy to take care of you motorsports needs over here in North Central Washington at Wenatchee Honda/BRP - Doghouse Motorsports.
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Because clearly you know the financial/living situation of 60% of the people in a state you don't even live in.

Go smoke some more meth, bang your sister one more time, and light up another cancer stick Mr. Conservative. Winning!! -Sarcasm
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Bike Guy triggered (again)...Woohoo
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Bike Guy triggered (again)...Woohoo
Love it or leave it suckers!

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BikeGuy321 wrote:
Because clearly you know the financial/living situation of 60% of the people in a state you don't even live in. Go smoke some more meth, bang...
Because clearly you know the financial/living situation of 60% of the people in a state you don't even live in.

Go smoke some more meth, bang your sister one more time, and light up another cancer stick Mr. Conservative. Winning!! -Sarcasm
Never done any drugs never smoked and no sisters but I know failures when I see them.
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How's a dealership closing down lead to banging sisters? I mean I'm laughing about it but...
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BikeGuy321 wrote:
Because clearly you know the financial/living situation of 60% of the people in a state you don't even live in. Go smoke some more meth, bang...
Because clearly you know the financial/living situation of 60% of the people in a state you don't even live in.

Go smoke some more meth, bang your sister one more time, and light up another cancer stick Mr. Conservative. Winning!! -Sarcasm
Never done any drugs never smoked and no sisters but I know failures when I see them.
Stereotypes suck, that's what I was trying to say. Failure? Throw away all the tech products you have that were designed in California. You won't!
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