Swap Moto-live – Savatgy

Tarz483
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9/11/2019 11:11am
I'm really surprised he hasn't gotten a ride , I personally dont understand all the hate , he seems like a cool guy to me, he reminds me a little but of Jake Weimer as far as interviews, which is just a tell it like it is type , but Imo he has a bigger upside potential than some others , I think he could surprise a few people next SX season, and going through some of these things is just gonna add fuel to the Fire.
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9/11/2019 11:27am
Tarz483 wrote:
I'm really surprised he hasn't gotten a ride , I personally dont understand all the hate , he seems like a cool guy to me, he...
I'm really surprised he hasn't gotten a ride , I personally dont understand all the hate , he seems like a cool guy to me, he reminds me a little but of Jake Weimer as far as interviews, which is just a tell it like it is type , but Imo he has a bigger upside potential than some others , I think he could surprise a few people next SX season, and going through some of these things is just gonna add fuel to the Fire.
I agree. I think people take it a bit too far with the hate. Like him or not, he's still a top rider in our sport and he's part of the formula that enables all of us to enjoy SX/MX events.

People act like he's a loose canon rider who consistently puts other riders in danger, or just constantly rides like a jackass.

I think this just might be what he needs to light the fire. I would love to see him at JGR next year putting in top 5's and a few podiums.
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9/11/2019 11:40am
Crush wrote:
You might just be entering the cynical old moto Man phase of posting here Jay but there’s an ocean between a robot with no personality and...
You might just be entering the cynical old moto
Man phase of posting here Jay but there’s an ocean between a robot with no personality and how Joey is.
500guy wrote:
The only thing I know for certain is Kawasaki screwed him this summer with all the bike failures.
I know Joey hit the dirt a few times and that damaged the bike but I️ don’t recall times where the bike just gave up.
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9/11/2019 11:56am
Moto520 wrote:
He's fine. He doesn't have a ride right now and he's probably a little salty. Awesome rider and i'm sure a good dude. Probably worried about...
He's fine. He doesn't have a ride right now and he's probably a little salty. Awesome rider and i'm sure a good dude. Probably worried about how to support himself.....
i take that back....he's brutal

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9/11/2019 12:07pm
Anton_514 wrote:
Quick synopsis since I know few people will listen to a 90 minute talk between the two of us. He explained the last Moto of the...
Quick synopsis since I know few people will listen to a 90 minute talk between the two of us.

He explained the last Moto of the Monster Energy Cup, from gate pick to move over to the relationship between he and Tomac after. Per Joey, he was not paid a cut of the million dollars the way everyone assumed. Said with the way things played out in the months that followed he regrets the decision and would not do it again. That’s discussed 33 minutes in all the way to the the commercial break.

The second half talks about his relationship with Adam (cordial but not close friends), how it felt to have the 2020 team announcement come midway through the summer, and what he plans to do if a contract isn’t signed by Monster Cup or the three international races he is on the entry list for.

I’ll type out the key parts for a post on the site tomorrow for those that would rather read.
In my opinion, intentionally throwing a big race on your team debut was a terrible idea. The fact that he expected a cut of the money is not how sporting competitions are supposed to work. My respect for Savatgy and the Kaw team certainly dropped off the charts, then he seemed to pull off the track a bunch in the outdoors. It's like he was a placemarker at Kaw, and it's not surprising his time there didn't make him much of a fan base.
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9/11/2019 12:21pm
Anton_514 wrote:
Quick synopsis since I know few people will listen to a 90 minute talk between the two of us. He explained the last Moto of the...
Quick synopsis since I know few people will listen to a 90 minute talk between the two of us.

He explained the last Moto of the Monster Energy Cup, from gate pick to move over to the relationship between he and Tomac after. Per Joey, he was not paid a cut of the million dollars the way everyone assumed. Said with the way things played out in the months that followed he regrets the decision and would not do it again. That’s discussed 33 minutes in all the way to the the commercial break.

The second half talks about his relationship with Adam (cordial but not close friends), how it felt to have the 2020 team announcement come midway through the summer, and what he plans to do if a contract isn’t signed by Monster Cup or the three international races he is on the entry list for.

I’ll type out the key parts for a post on the site tomorrow for those that would rather read.
In my opinion, intentionally throwing a big race on your team debut was a terrible idea. The fact that he expected a cut of the money...
In my opinion, intentionally throwing a big race on your team debut was a terrible idea. The fact that he expected a cut of the money is not how sporting competitions are supposed to work. My respect for Savatgy and the Kaw team certainly dropped off the charts, then he seemed to pull off the track a bunch in the outdoors. It's like he was a placemarker at Kaw, and it's not surprising his time there didn't make him much of a fan base.
Yeah Joey "Fantasy Killer" Savatgy
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9/11/2019 12:57pm Edited Date/Time 9/11/2019 12:59pm
man, that was a brutal listen. i skipped to the MEC segment and signed off shortly after.

"i don't expect money or a thank you"....."yeah they could have said thank you"..."we were working on a deal where they would pay me the difference"... "i don't expect him to thank me"...

i'm out
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9/11/2019 1:05pm
Crush wrote:
You might just be entering the cynical old moto Man phase of posting here Jay but there’s an ocean between a robot with no personality and...
You might just be entering the cynical old moto
Man phase of posting here Jay but there’s an ocean between a robot with no personality and how Joey is.
500guy wrote:
The only thing I know for certain is Kawasaki screwed him this summer with all the bike failures.
280driver wrote:
I know Joey hit the dirt a few times and that damaged the bike but I️ don’t recall times where the bike just gave up.
There were at least 3 outdoor motos where his bike gave up before he did.
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9/11/2019 1:12pm
peelout wrote:
man, that was a brutal listen. i skipped to the MEC segment and signed off shortly after. "i don't expect money or a thank you"....."yeah they...
man, that was a brutal listen. i skipped to the MEC segment and signed off shortly after.

"i don't expect money or a thank you"....."yeah they could have said thank you"..."we were working on a deal where they would pay me the difference"... "i don't expect him to thank me"...

i'm out

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9/11/2019 1:16pm
what kind of a dick gets a million dollar gift and doesn't even leave a tip?
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9/11/2019 1:19pm
He’s one of my favorite riders mostly cuz of his riding style, partly because everyone bitches so much about him...I don’t hate AC at all but...
He’s one of my favorite riders mostly cuz of his riding style, partly because everyone bitches so much about him...I don’t hate AC at all but it would definitely make me smile to see Joey punt him into the cheap seats at A1
This is just dumb. Why would he have beef with AC to want to do that, if anything he should be mad at Kawi. In fact after listening, he should take out Eli for not thanking him about the MEC deal and for not giving him a congrats on having a baby. Even Osborne came to him to say congrats he says.
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9/11/2019 1:37pm
He said in the interview that he had a deal pulled from him because of an on-track incident. What was that incident? Was it the Honda deal that was pulled because of it?
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9/11/2019 1:38pm
I dunno... I'm a huge Savatgy fan. Always have been. He's been awesome every time I've ever met him and at Unadilla this year we chatted for a solid 10 minutes about how he gets so much gear he literally has to throw some away every week or else it's too much to handle all at once among other topics (I'm a jersey collector so that stood out to me haha). Same with his dad and his mechanic. Always been a good conversation at the races. I don't get the hate.
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9/11/2019 1:40pm Edited Date/Time 9/12/2019 11:33am
Payup_199 wrote:
He said in the interview that he had a deal pulled from him because of an on-track incident. What was that incident? Was it the Honda...
He said in the interview that he had a deal pulled from him because of an on-track incident. What was that incident? Was it the Honda deal that was pulled because of it?
Maybe they re-watched his last lap at Vegas 2017?
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9/11/2019 1:47pm
I heard he tea bagged a cat once.
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9/11/2019 1:56pm
I dunno... I'm a huge Savatgy fan. Always have been. He's been awesome every time I've ever met him and at Unadilla this year we chatted...
I dunno... I'm a huge Savatgy fan. Always have been. He's been awesome every time I've ever met him and at Unadilla this year we chatted for a solid 10 minutes about how he gets so much gear he literally has to throw some away every week or else it's too much to handle all at once among other topics (I'm a jersey collector so that stood out to me haha). Same with his dad and his mechanic. Always been a good conversation at the races. I don't get the hate.
Me too, we all know they are not nobel prizes anyway ; they are great but with flaws like everybody, well not on the bike, and i think he did really well for his rookie season, he was not far off winning a few races!
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9/11/2019 2:02pm
500guy wrote:
The only thing I know for certain is Kawasaki screwed him this summer with all the bike failures.
280driver wrote:
I know Joey hit the dirt a few times and that damaged the bike but I️ don’t recall times where the bike just gave up.
yak651 wrote:
There were at least 3 outdoor motos where his bike gave up before he did.
Which motos?
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9/11/2019 2:03pm
The guy has been a jerk since the days at PC. Funny has that can catch up with you in the future.
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9/11/2019 2:10pm
500guy wrote:
what kind of a dick gets a million dollar gift and doesn't even leave a tip?
Did the fan pay him anything for the $1 million gift he got? Must have since Joey didn’t bitch about it interview. There’s two sides to every story so I️’d love to hear the other side one day.
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9/11/2019 2:17pm
280driver wrote:
Did the fan pay him anything for the $1 million gift he got? Must have since Joey didn’t bitch about it interview. There’s two sides to...
Did the fan pay him anything for the $1 million gift he got? Must have since Joey didn’t bitch about it interview. There’s two sides to every story so I️’d love to hear the other side one day.
So if the two people win a million only one gives a tip?

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9/11/2019 3:16pm
Wow, that was painful to listen to.
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9/11/2019 3:37pm Edited Date/Time 9/11/2019 3:38pm
he seems like a very conflicted young man...he flits back and forth between negativity and positivity, often contradicting himself. Almost like he knows what he "should" do or say and catches himself when he says something inconsistent with his world view.

Regardless of what happens in his moto career, I hope he surrounds himself with positive people and figures stuff out.
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9/11/2019 3:40pm
he seems like a very conflicted young man...he flits back and forth between negativity and positivity, often contradicting himself. Almost like he knows what he "should"...
he seems like a very conflicted young man...he flits back and forth between negativity and positivity, often contradicting himself. Almost like he knows what he "should" do or say and catches himself when he says something inconsistent with his world view.

Regardless of what happens in his moto career, I hope he surrounds himself with positive people and figures stuff out.
I think he needs a big change. Like get away from the goat farm, new circle of support everything.
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9/11/2019 3:46pm
Holy cow...the number of users here who bash on Joey on here...and come across as worse than anything Joey could ever be.
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9/11/2019 4:16pm
Is Johnny O’mara still working with Joey? If so, seems like Johnny would be able to coach Joey on how he presents himself as much as he coaches him on the bike.
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9/11/2019 4:28pm
Payup_199 wrote:
He said in the interview that he had a deal pulled from him because of an on-track incident. What was that incident? Was it the Honda...
He said in the interview that he had a deal pulled from him because of an on-track incident. What was that incident? Was it the Honda deal that was pulled because of it?
Very curious what the back story is here. Anyone do reporting on this?
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9/11/2019 4:53pm
He was honest about his thoughts. He seems a bit irked but he kinda has a valid reason to be that way.

IMO... Eli should have kicked him some $. At least 10% ... at least! Seriously. Not pulling him aside and saying thanks bud... take this $ is sad.... My 3 cents
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9/11/2019 5:02pm
He’s one of my favorite riders mostly cuz of his riding style, partly because everyone bitches so much about him...I don’t hate AC at all but...
He’s one of my favorite riders mostly cuz of his riding style, partly because everyone bitches so much about him...I don’t hate AC at all but it would definitely make me smile to see Joey punt him into the cheap seats at A1
Ramrod wrote:
This is just dumb. Why would he have beef with AC to want to do that, if anything he should be mad at Kawi. In fact...
This is just dumb. Why would he have beef with AC to want to do that, if anything he should be mad at Kawi. In fact after listening, he should take out Eli for not thanking him about the MEC deal and for not giving him a congrats on having a baby. Even Osborne came to him to say congrats he says.
Honestly I wrote that before listening, I think Eli is definitely the one that deserves the takeout although I still think it’d be great if he has a better year than AC just to stick it to em
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9/11/2019 5:05pm
280driver wrote:
I know Joey hit the dirt a few times and that damaged the bike but I️ don’t recall times where the bike just gave up.
yak651 wrote:
There were at least 3 outdoor motos where his bike gave up before he did.
280driver wrote:
Which motos?
For sure 2nd moto millville as I saw that in person, Thunder Valley I believe both motos had bike issues (rumor was they were testing something), Southwick 1st moto?
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9/11/2019 5:18pm
GuyB wrote:
Holy cow...the number of users here who bash on Joey on here...and come across as worse than anything Joey could ever be.
Agreed. Never been a fan of Joey but I have absolutely no issue with him laying out his grievances here. He's being honest.
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