3 peat and fourth all time on the mx wins list.

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8/25/2019 4:45pm Edited Date/Time 8/25/2019 4:48pm
Dunge faced a lot of thin fields in his outdoor title runs
TbonesPop wrote:
The two thinnest fields ever were when RC and JS went 24-0. Both of those guys were incredible racers and fast as hell. Regardless, the field...
The two thinnest fields ever were when RC and JS went 24-0. Both of those guys were incredible racers and fast as hell. Regardless, the field they rode in then was far thinner compared to what Dunge rode in his entire career.
I don't understand how you define (thinner) If Rc raced and won so many times no one was ever a contender. So just cause he killed every one, how do you define a thinner class?
Cause there was not other champions or other winners? No there was not cause he won everything.
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SCR wrote:
He did a total of 120 outdoor races and won 103 of them if I'm not mistaken. And only had one DNF. I watched him do...
He did a total of 120 outdoor races and won 103 of them if I'm not mistaken. And only had one DNF.
I watched him do it and I still don't think it's possible.
Park Boys wrote:
Pretty sure RC raced 127 of em and I know he won 102.
I guess your right he raced part time after his last championship. I thought he just did some SX races for some reason. I'm getting old and can't remember shit, that's actually the reason.
8/25/2019 5:05pm
Dunge faced a lot of thin fields in his outdoor title runs
Yeah, Roczen, Tomac, Musquin...total thin fields. I've never seen a group of fans so biased as many are about Dungey.
Look at the fields in 2010. The rest of the top 10 in the championship have a career combined 4 450 overall wins. Weakest 450MX field ever. Dungey was great, but his numbers are padded by relatively weak fields.
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8/25/2019 5:48pm
Dunge faced a lot of thin fields in his outdoor title runs
Yeah, Roczen, Tomac, Musquin...total thin fields. I've never seen a group of fans so biased as many are about Dungey.
Look at the fields in 2010. The rest of the top 10 in the championship have a career combined 4 450 overall wins. Weakest 450MX field...
Look at the fields in 2010. The rest of the top 10 in the championship have a career combined 4 450 overall wins. Weakest 450MX field ever. Dungey was great, but his numbers are padded by relatively weak fields.
So RV numbers and titles are padded because he raced the same people RD did?

There are no weak fields in the premier class. You have to be in it to win it. RD raced everybody that lined up, RV, Stewart, Reed, Windham, Tomac, Roczen, Musquin....
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8/25/2019 6:44pm Edited Date/Time 8/25/2019 7:48pm
Tomac and RV were always faster than Dungey, but RV jacked his knee early in 12, missing the whole outdoor series. Then Tomac jacked his shoulder at Colorado, both in their primes giving Dungey huge gifts. Then RV retired super early. Dungey was great, but RV and Tomac always schooled him when they were healthy.
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8/25/2019 7:18pm
Dungey was great but Tomac puts in crazy epic rides that stands out more.
All the top guys had amazing careers.
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8/25/2019 7:38pm
Great accomplishment and finishing out the outdoors strong.
Next is mec then sx what a great career he has going.
Yep. Had similar thoughts after watching the last national Ironman race replay just a little while ago. He’s putting together an impressive resume.
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Dungey reads this thread while sipping a margarita in a coozie made of $100 dollar bills, on a pool chair made of $100 dollar bills, in a pool lined with $100 dollar bills, in the backyard of a house built on...you get the picture. Ryan's results and financials speak for themselves. And his charitable contributions are second to none. So he likely sleeps very peacefully and spends very little time wringing his hands over his win ratios against RV and Eli.
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8/25/2019 8:32pm
Dungey was great but Tomac puts in crazy epic rides that stands out more.
All the top guys had amazing careers.
Tomac isn't close to Dungey. In fact, he lost to him.
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8/25/2019 8:48pm Edited Date/Time 8/25/2019 9:40pm
Dungey was great but Tomac puts in crazy epic rides that stands out more.
All the top guys had amazing careers.
Tomac isn't close to Dungey. In fact, he lost to him.
on a Honda yes. Till 15'. Then the tables turned till he blew the shoulders out. Had Dunge and Eli duked it out that entire season. Could been exciting.
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8/25/2019 8:55pm
I well expect Eli to be second on that list by the time he hangs up the boots
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8/25/2019 9:24pm
Tomac isn't close to Dungey. In fact, he lost to him.
So what is the argument for Dungey being close to RV? Dungey lost to RV his entire career.
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8/25/2019 10:33pm
So what is the argument for Dungey being close to RV? Dungey lost to RV his entire career.
No one is talking about RV, he's not on the list.
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9/2/2019 11:53am
Dunge faced a lot of thin fields in his outdoor title runs
Thin fields are an indication that your competitor(s) failed to stay on the bike and off the ground.
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3x 450 motocross champion. That’s baller status.

you can argue about career and stats all day long.

Bottom line is he has a seat at the table. And that’s all that really matters.

He’s a bad bad dude on a dirt bike.
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I well expect Eli to be second on that list by the time he hangs up the boots
Thumbs down? People really think Eli couldn’t get 16 more wins in his career?
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9/2/2019 8:51pm
Yep, Dunge whooped him so bad in 2011, when he got 2nd
Dungey won 4 Nationals in 2011
Villopoto won 3 Nationals in 2011
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9/3/2019 4:41am
Tomac isn't close to Dungey. In fact, he lost to him.
Tomac retired Dungey, mate. Sent him packing, big time.
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9/3/2019 8:05am
Great accomplishment and finishing out the outdoors strong.
Next is mec then sx what a great career he has going.
scott_nz wrote:
have you got a list of the overall win lists?
Here is the current top ten 450 riders win list. Ricky Carmichael...76 Ryan Dungey.........39 Bob Hannah...........27 Eli Tomac..............23 Ricky Johnson.......22 James Stewart.......20 Kent Howerton.......18 Ken Roczen..........18...
Here is the current top ten 450 riders win list.
Ricky Carmichael...76
Ryan Dungey.........39
Bob Hannah...........27
Eli Tomac..............23
Ricky Johnson.......22
James Stewart.......20
Kent Howerton.......18
Ken Roczen..........18
Jeff Emig...............16
Jeremy McGrath....15
You don't realize how dominant RC was until you see a list like this. His name will be up there for a very, very long time... probably til the end of fucking time if you think about it.
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9/3/2019 8:21am
Yep, Dunge whooped him so bad in 2011, when he got 2nd
ShipLap wrote:
Dungey won 4 Nationals in 2011
Villopoto won 3 Nationals in 2011
And that old dude won 4 of them until he got hurt. Old dude probably would have won that championship, he had it under control until it went out of control going for O/A win 5.
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9/3/2019 8:38am
scott_nz wrote:
have you got a list of the overall win lists?
Here is the current top ten 450 riders win list. Ricky Carmichael...76 Ryan Dungey.........39 Bob Hannah...........27 Eli Tomac..............23 Ricky Johnson.......22 James Stewart.......20 Kent Howerton.......18 Ken Roczen..........18...
Here is the current top ten 450 riders win list.
Ricky Carmichael...76
Ryan Dungey.........39
Bob Hannah...........27
Eli Tomac..............23
Ricky Johnson.......22
James Stewart.......20
Kent Howerton.......18
Ken Roczen..........18
Jeff Emig...............16
Jeremy McGrath....15
You don't realize how dominant RC was until you see a list like this. His name will be up there for a very, very long time...
You don't realize how dominant RC was until you see a list like this. His name will be up there for a very, very long time... probably til the end of fucking time if you think about it.
There can only be one greatest of all time and all time is forever. Paraphrasing Ryno from one of the TGO movies. Nobody will ever touch what RC accomplished.
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9/3/2019 2:06pm
Dungey was great but Tomac puts in crazy epic rides that stands out more.
All the top guys had amazing careers.
Tomac isn't close to Dungey. In fact, he lost to him.
Tomac beat him in 2016 outdoors
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9/3/2019 7:55pm
Dungey was great but Tomac puts in crazy epic rides that stands out more.
All the top guys had amazing careers.
Tomac isn't close to Dungey. In fact, he lost to him.
Tomac beat him in 2016 outdoors
Dungey won over Eli every overall he raced with him in 2016.
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9/3/2019 8:16pm
Tomac isn't close to Dungey. In fact, he lost to him.
Tomac beat him in 2016 outdoors
Dungey won over Eli every overall he raced with him in 2016.
Hmm I believe Eli beat him in points. Isn’t that what matters?
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9/3/2019 9:18pm Edited Date/Time 9/3/2019 9:36pm
Tomac beat him in 2016 outdoors
Dungey won over Eli every overall he raced with him in 2016.
Hmm I believe Eli beat him in points. Isn’t that what matters?
Yeah, the points are what matters. However, it took Dungey breaking his neck for Eli to make that happen. Out of the six motos they raced together in 2016 Dungey beat out Tomac 5 - 1 and won an overall while he was at it.
You're right though. It's just that the way you said it stuck in my craw. That's common here in Vital land though.
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9/3/2019 9:38pm Edited Date/Time 9/3/2019 10:17pm
Tomac beat him in 2016 outdoors
Dungey won over Eli every overall he raced with him in 2016.
Hmm I believe Eli beat him in points. Isn’t that what matters?
In the three races they raced together in 2016, Dungey beat Eli all three times. Then he was out with a neck injury. You know someone is big time desperate and big time pathetic when they hang onto Eli beating a guy who was out for the season after three races with a neck injury. Then some other big time desperado says Tomac put Dungey into retirement. New lows, big time lows.
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9/3/2019 10:37pm
Barrzy256 wrote:
When you look at that list it reminds you how damn good RC actually was!! It’s been a few years and it’s easy to forget. Also...
When you look at that list it reminds you how damn good RC actually was!! It’s been a few years and it’s easy to forget. Also crazy not to see windham on that list at all😭😭
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Windham isn’t on the list because he raced RC. Gave his best for years but Carmichael was a full on Freak!
Was great to see k-dub smoke him at shougie.
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If he stays healthy he can definitely challenge Dungey for second place overall wins.
He’s also getting up there in Supercross.
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I wouldn't have thought of Howerton in the top 6... and over Villopoto.

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