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chippo 8/11/2019 4:12am
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All you Americans seem to think going to Mxdn means going to war and fighting on the front lines and if someone doesn't go then they should be ashamed of themselves and don't deserve to be called an Amercian. It's a fucking motocross race people in the past have elected not to go, it's not the end of the world it's a once a year race that has no bearing on anything to do with any Ama series.

Also do you honestly think Kawasaki cares if 13 random nobodies don't buy a bike or merch? Definitely not, they won't be loosing any sleep not to mention the money they'll make winning Ama titles will more than cover any potential earnings that you random idiots are boycotting.

I don't blame riders not wanting to go either, it interrupts their preseason which is where they make their money and earn their contracts. Honestly why would any rider go when to Mxdn when the outcome is if they don't win all you people do is abuse them and whinge about them not winning. Not to mention earning no money to go and risking potential injuries for a non ama scheduled event with little to no validity or reward.
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Its funny when you think about it.. the US riders that started the whole win thing are legends wherever they go . The original Honda Trio...
Its funny when you think about it.. the US riders that started the whole win thing are legends wherever they go . The original Honda Trio put together by DeCoster that came and shocked the world changed MX in a way that those who lived through it will never forget. Honda stepped up and made it happen. Kawasaki US underestimate the importance of the MXoN. And the riders that dont go remove themselves from ever being part of that elite band of riders that are prepared to stand under their flag for fans, and not for thier own bank balance.
You must be new to the sport. The "original Honda Trio"?

Which rider didn't count? O'Mara, Sun, Hansen, or Laporte?
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bigk218 8/11/2019 10:22am
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I have more respect for Kawasaki now than ever. Good for them. I think the us should completely boycott the MXDN all together. We at the stars of the show. Without the USA
the mxdn is just another MXGP that no one cares about. Our teams and riders get no support or money out of going so....

It has nothing to do with pride and everything to do with the MXDN promoters taking advantage of the USA as usual
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burn1986 8/11/2019 11:09am
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The US doesn’t need to boycott the MXDN, and It wouldn’t kill Kawasaki to support it. Are they really gonna lose that much money over it? It’s still has some prestige and will boost sales. But... the if they don’t send anyone, it isn’t the end of the world.
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Thisusernameisavailable 8/11/2019 11:11am
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The majority of the market Kawasaki sell to either don’t know what the MXoN is, or care about it. I doubt they are worried. More focused...
The majority of the market Kawasaki sell to either don’t know what the MXoN is, or care about it. I doubt they are worried. More focused on winning a supercross championship
Win as many championships as you want, I don't care. All I care about is giving us fans what we want- and thats a good race.
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KDXGarage 8/12/2019 7:55am
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Say Tomac goes 1-1 on Sunday at MXoN. How many $9,300 KX450's get sold on Monday?

Exactly.
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I will look the other way Kawasaki and support a brand who is willing To take a step forward when they are asked to Biggest selling...
I will look the other way Kawasaki and support a brand who is willing To take a step forward when they are asked to
Biggest selling market is USA if not the second and declining support is unbelievable
APLMAN99 wrote:
You understand that these riders aren't exactly fighting for our freedoms, right? The MXoN is a cool race and all, but in reality it's turned into...
You understand that these riders aren't exactly fighting for our freedoms, right?

The MXoN is a cool race and all, but in reality it's turned into more of a "faux patriotism for the wallet of Luongo only" type of thing.

Since the riders are expected to perform for free, I think that all revenues should be donated to appropriate charities. Let's see what happens when everyone involved makes as much (little) as the riders do for the event......
Well stated...
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Kawi is about to win both outdoor titles and be back to back to back 450 MX champions, yet they are still second to last when it comes to favorite brands from everything I see and read. Kawasaki USA not going to MXoN isn’t going to hurt them one bit, just like it never helped them. Anyone who says differently isn’t a Kawi guy in the first place.
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Kawi is about to win both outdoor titles and be back to back to back 450 MX champions, yet they are still second to last when...
Kawi is about to win both outdoor titles and be back to back to back 450 MX champions, yet they are still second to last when it comes to favorite brands from everything I see and read. Kawasaki USA not going to MXoN isn’t going to hurt them one bit, just like it never helped them. Anyone who says differently isn’t a Kawi guy in the first place.
Bike that builds champions not bike that builds mxdn wins
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KDXGarage wrote:
Say Tomac goes 1-1 on Sunday at MXoN. How many $9,300 KX450's get sold on Monday?

Exactly.
Maybe one or two?

Most likely to the idiot that still believes that a win at the pro level translates to the bike they purchase; that it will compensate for the reason why they are not "pro" fast to begin with.
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teamddr 8/12/2019 9:11am
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KDXGarage wrote:
Say Tomac goes 1-1 on Sunday at MXoN. How many $9,300 KX450's get sold on Monday?

Exactly.
seventeen wrote:
Maybe one or two? Most likely to the idiot that still believes that a win at the pro level translates to the bike they purchase; that...
Maybe one or two?

Most likely to the idiot that still believes that a win at the pro level translates to the bike they purchase; that it will compensate for the reason why they are not "pro" fast to begin with.
Tomac goes 1-1 and beats herlings on sand I’ll buy one
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mxb2 8/12/2019 9:26am
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KDXGarage wrote:
Say Tomac goes 1-1 on Sunday at MXoN. How many $9,300 KX450's get sold on Monday?

Exactly.
seventeen wrote:
Maybe one or two? Most likely to the idiot that still believes that a win at the pro level translates to the bike they purchase; that...
Maybe one or two?

Most likely to the idiot that still believes that a win at the pro level translates to the bike they purchase; that it will compensate for the reason why they are not "pro" fast to begin with.
teamddr wrote:
Tomac goes 1-1 and beats herlings on sand I’ll buy one
Yep , herlings wins A1, i will buy a new fe ktm. We can all play that game of safe bets knowing it will never happen.
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teamddr 8/12/2019 9:33am
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seventeen wrote:
Maybe one or two? Most likely to the idiot that still believes that a win at the pro level translates to the bike they purchase; that...
Maybe one or two?

Most likely to the idiot that still believes that a win at the pro level translates to the bike they purchase; that it will compensate for the reason why they are not "pro" fast to begin with.
teamddr wrote:
Tomac goes 1-1 and beats herlings on sand I’ll buy one
mxb2 wrote:
Yep , herlings wins A1, i will buy a new fe ktm. We can all play that game of safe bets knowing it will never happen.
Barcia won the last A1 you bought yourself a YZ yet
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mxb2 8/12/2019 9:46am
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teamddr wrote:
Tomac goes 1-1 and beats herlings on sand I’ll buy one
mxb2 wrote:
Yep , herlings wins A1, i will buy a new fe ktm. We can all play that game of safe bets knowing it will never happen.
teamddr wrote:
Barcia won the last A1 you bought yourself a YZ yet
I said when herlings lines up at a1,and wins. I will buy a new ktm. Barcia has nothing to do with the post. Way to change the subject..
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mxb2 8/12/2019 9:47am
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teamddr wrote:
Tomac goes 1-1 and beats herlings on sand I’ll buy one
mxb2 wrote:
Yep , herlings wins A1, i will buy a new fe ktm. We can all play that game of safe bets knowing it will never happen.
teamddr wrote:
Barcia won the last A1 you bought yourself a YZ yet
Did you buy a new ktm when herlings won the 450 title?
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teamddr 8/12/2019 9:54am
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mxb2 wrote:
Yep , herlings wins A1, i will buy a new fe ktm. We can all play that game of safe bets knowing it will never happen.
teamddr wrote:
Barcia won the last A1 you bought yourself a YZ yet
mxb2 wrote:
I said when herlings lines up at a1,and wins. I will buy a new ktm. Barcia has nothing to do with the post. Way to change...
I said when herlings lines up at a1,and wins. I will buy a new ktm. Barcia has nothing to do with the post. Way to change the subject..
Why would herlings go to A1 it’s a stupid cross event
He’s the fastest sand rider in the world and the biggest race in the world is in Assen
The other sport you call SX is not a global sport like MX
If Tomac went 1-1 at Assen then that’s gotta help Kawasaki’s sales
As for herlings going 1-1 at Anaheim sure isn’t cooper Webb the SX champion ( remind of what brand he rides)
Stop while your behind
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mxb2 8/12/2019 9:57am
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teamddr wrote:
Barcia won the last A1 you bought yourself a YZ yet
mxb2 wrote:
I said when herlings lines up at a1,and wins. I will buy a new ktm. Barcia has nothing to do with the post. Way to change...
I said when herlings lines up at a1,and wins. I will buy a new ktm. Barcia has nothing to do with the post. Way to change the subject..
teamddr wrote:
Why would herlings go to A1 it’s a stupid cross event He’s the fastest sand rider in the world and the biggest race in the world...
Why would herlings go to A1 it’s a stupid cross event
He’s the fastest sand rider in the world and the biggest race in the world is in Assen
The other sport you call SX is not a global sport like MX
If Tomac went 1-1 at Assen then that’s gotta help Kawasaki’s sales
As for herlings going 1-1 at Anaheim sure isn’t cooper Webb the SX champion ( remind of what brand he rides)
Stop while your behind
And why wd tomac go to a non paying race he isnt contracted for? Kroc, marvin ferrandis, not going either. Did you mention their name?
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mxb2 8/12/2019 9:58am
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teamddr wrote:
Barcia won the last A1 you bought yourself a YZ yet
mxb2 wrote:
I said when herlings lines up at a1,and wins. I will buy a new ktm. Barcia has nothing to do with the post. Way to change...
I said when herlings lines up at a1,and wins. I will buy a new ktm. Barcia has nothing to do with the post. Way to change the subject..
teamddr wrote:
Why would herlings go to A1 it’s a stupid cross event He’s the fastest sand rider in the world and the biggest race in the world...
Why would herlings go to A1 it’s a stupid cross event
He’s the fastest sand rider in the world and the biggest race in the world is in Assen
The other sport you call SX is not a global sport like MX
If Tomac went 1-1 at Assen then that’s gotta help Kawasaki’s sales
As for herlings going 1-1 at Anaheim sure isn’t cooper Webb the SX champion ( remind of what brand he rides)
Stop while your behind
I said herlings to sx , not webb. Whats so hard to understand.
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mxb2 8/12/2019 9:59am
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teamddr wrote:
Barcia won the last A1 you bought yourself a YZ yet
mxb2 wrote:
I said when herlings lines up at a1,and wins. I will buy a new ktm. Barcia has nothing to do with the post. Way to change...
I said when herlings lines up at a1,and wins. I will buy a new ktm. Barcia has nothing to do with the post. Way to change the subject..
teamddr wrote:
Why would herlings go to A1 it’s a stupid cross event He’s the fastest sand rider in the world and the biggest race in the world...
Why would herlings go to A1 it’s a stupid cross event
He’s the fastest sand rider in the world and the biggest race in the world is in Assen
The other sport you call SX is not a global sport like MX
If Tomac went 1-1 at Assen then that’s gotta help Kawasaki’s sales
As for herlings going 1-1 at Anaheim sure isn’t cooper Webb the SX champion ( remind of what brand he rides)
Stop while your behind
Really sx. Not global. Lmfao. I m done you are clueless. Tell kroc marvin and gajser that.
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teamddr 8/12/2019 10:05am
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mxb2 wrote:
I said when herlings lines up at a1,and wins. I will buy a new ktm. Barcia has nothing to do with the post. Way to change...
I said when herlings lines up at a1,and wins. I will buy a new ktm. Barcia has nothing to do with the post. Way to change the subject..
teamddr wrote:
Why would herlings go to A1 it’s a stupid cross event He’s the fastest sand rider in the world and the biggest race in the world...
Why would herlings go to A1 it’s a stupid cross event
He’s the fastest sand rider in the world and the biggest race in the world is in Assen
The other sport you call SX is not a global sport like MX
If Tomac went 1-1 at Assen then that’s gotta help Kawasaki’s sales
As for herlings going 1-1 at Anaheim sure isn’t cooper Webb the SX champion ( remind of what brand he rides)
Stop while your behind
mxb2 wrote:
And why wd tomac go to a non paying race he isnt contracted for? Kroc, marvin ferrandis, not going either. Did you mention their name?
Yes I did in another thread
Ferandis and Marv where never gonna be picked
Great hard pack guys but to small for the sand and never shined in the stuff
Kenny has issues and I don’t think his body would get trough Assen
Tomac on the other hand is one of the worlds fastest riders on any surface and us Euros are a bit pissed off because the MXON is one chance we might get to see him in the flesh. Regardless of his results last year he’s one of the best and Assen is a place he could really do well in. You can butter up Kawasaki all you want but they are depriving him of representing his country and us euros a chance to see him over what money. I think Kawasaki can take the hit and so could Eli. Guess whatever money they are making it ain’t enough
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mxb2 8/12/2019 10:11am
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teamddr wrote:
Why would herlings go to A1 it’s a stupid cross event He’s the fastest sand rider in the world and the biggest race in the world...
Why would herlings go to A1 it’s a stupid cross event
He’s the fastest sand rider in the world and the biggest race in the world is in Assen
The other sport you call SX is not a global sport like MX
If Tomac went 1-1 at Assen then that’s gotta help Kawasaki’s sales
As for herlings going 1-1 at Anaheim sure isn’t cooper Webb the SX champion ( remind of what brand he rides)
Stop while your behind
mxb2 wrote:
And why wd tomac go to a non paying race he isnt contracted for? Kroc, marvin ferrandis, not going either. Did you mention their name?
teamddr wrote:
Yes I did in another thread Ferandis and Marv where never gonna be picked Great hard pack guys but to small for the sand and never...
Yes I did in another thread
Ferandis and Marv where never gonna be picked
Great hard pack guys but to small for the sand and never shined in the stuff
Kenny has issues and I don’t think his body would get trough Assen
Tomac on the other hand is one of the worlds fastest riders on any surface and us Euros are a bit pissed off because the MXON is one chance we might get to see him in the flesh. Regardless of his results last year he’s one of the best and Assen is a place he could really do well in. You can butter up Kawasaki all you want but they are depriving him of representing his country and us euros a chance to see him over what money. I think Kawasaki can take the hit and so could Eli. Guess whatever money they are making it ain’t enough
No need to butter up kawy, they have plenty $$ funny people talk shit tomac not going,mostly the same idiots that were pissed he got 4th overall at mxon last year. And kroc is healthy and germanys best rider but keep defending him and marvin,ferrandis i guarantee a1 and mec will be watched by more people than mxon. I will watch them all and wont stomp my feet like a ten year old because i cant see a guy race.
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teamddr 8/12/2019 10:20am
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mxb2 wrote:
And why wd tomac go to a non paying race he isnt contracted for? Kroc, marvin ferrandis, not going either. Did you mention their name?
teamddr wrote:
Yes I did in another thread Ferandis and Marv where never gonna be picked Great hard pack guys but to small for the sand and never...
Yes I did in another thread
Ferandis and Marv where never gonna be picked
Great hard pack guys but to small for the sand and never shined in the stuff
Kenny has issues and I don’t think his body would get trough Assen
Tomac on the other hand is one of the worlds fastest riders on any surface and us Euros are a bit pissed off because the MXON is one chance we might get to see him in the flesh. Regardless of his results last year he’s one of the best and Assen is a place he could really do well in. You can butter up Kawasaki all you want but they are depriving him of representing his country and us euros a chance to see him over what money. I think Kawasaki can take the hit and so could Eli. Guess whatever money they are making it ain’t enough
mxb2 wrote:
No need to butter up kawy, they have plenty $$ funny people talk shit tomac not going,mostly the same idiots that were pissed he got 4th...
No need to butter up kawy, they have plenty $$ funny people talk shit tomac not going,mostly the same idiots that were pissed he got 4th overall at mxon last year. And kroc is healthy and germanys best rider but keep defending him and marvin,ferrandis i guarantee a1 and mec will be watched by more people than mxon. I will watch them all and wont stomp my feet like a ten year old because i cant see a guy race.
Who’s stomping there feet it isn’t me
Depriving a rider of the chance to represent his country is BS and defending the company that does it is just as bad
Anyway enjoy your MEC Imm for the biggest mx party of the year in Assen


Bye bye
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teamddr wrote:
Why would herlings go to A1 it’s a stupid cross event He’s the fastest sand rider in the world and the biggest race in the world...
Why would herlings go to A1 it’s a stupid cross event
He’s the fastest sand rider in the world and the biggest race in the world is in Assen
The other sport you call SX is not a global sport like MX
If Tomac went 1-1 at Assen then that’s gotta help Kawasaki’s sales
As for herlings going 1-1 at Anaheim sure isn’t cooper Webb the SX champion ( remind of what brand he rides)
Stop while your behind
mxb2 wrote:
And why wd tomac go to a non paying race he isnt contracted for? Kroc, marvin ferrandis, not going either. Did you mention their name?
teamddr wrote:
Yes I did in another thread Ferandis and Marv where never gonna be picked Great hard pack guys but to small for the sand and never...
Yes I did in another thread
Ferandis and Marv where never gonna be picked
Great hard pack guys but to small for the sand and never shined in the stuff
Kenny has issues and I don’t think his body would get trough Assen
Tomac on the other hand is one of the worlds fastest riders on any surface and us Euros are a bit pissed off because the MXON is one chance we might get to see him in the flesh. Regardless of his results last year he’s one of the best and Assen is a place he could really do well in. You can butter up Kawasaki all you want but they are depriving him of representing his country and us euros a chance to see him over what money. I think Kawasaki can take the hit and so could Eli. Guess whatever money they are making it ain’t enough
By your theory, i guess we shall see if prado,gajser herlings show up at ironman.. ya know to show their brand and for the usa fans.
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RichardLoots 8/12/2019 10:38am
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mxb2 wrote:
And why wd tomac go to a non paying race he isnt contracted for? Kroc, marvin ferrandis, not going either. Did you mention their name?
because of this after Redbud last year ..he was the one who said it , not Kroc ,Dylan or Marvin ...

just a little reminder , if he had said at that time he wouldnt race Assen because he wanted to win that Sx title and so fully prepare for it .. it would have been different but he said something else ...




US motocross champ, Eli Tomac, has continued reiterating his desire to get revenge on the GP riders and still seems angered by what happened at Red Bud and Herlings’ tweet. If Jeffrey Herlings, Tony Cairoli and the rest need any motivation for Assen next year, they already have it!

“It’s still in my head and my mind, it’s bugging me,” admitted Tomac in the MEC press conference despite just making a million dollars in a thrilling night in Vegas. “I know we are better than what we finished, but that’s why we go racing and we didn’t make it happen. I think it added probably three years on my career because I want to go over there and get revenge on those guys. All in all though, we did just get straight up beat.”
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teamddr wrote:
Yes I did in another thread Ferandis and Marv where never gonna be picked Great hard pack guys but to small for the sand and never...
Yes I did in another thread
Ferandis and Marv where never gonna be picked
Great hard pack guys but to small for the sand and never shined in the stuff
Kenny has issues and I don’t think his body would get trough Assen
Tomac on the other hand is one of the worlds fastest riders on any surface and us Euros are a bit pissed off because the MXON is one chance we might get to see him in the flesh. Regardless of his results last year he’s one of the best and Assen is a place he could really do well in. You can butter up Kawasaki all you want but they are depriving him of representing his country and us euros a chance to see him over what money. I think Kawasaki can take the hit and so could Eli. Guess whatever money they are making it ain’t enough
mxb2 wrote:
No need to butter up kawy, they have plenty $$ funny people talk shit tomac not going,mostly the same idiots that were pissed he got 4th...
No need to butter up kawy, they have plenty $$ funny people talk shit tomac not going,mostly the same idiots that were pissed he got 4th overall at mxon last year. And kroc is healthy and germanys best rider but keep defending him and marvin,ferrandis i guarantee a1 and mec will be watched by more people than mxon. I will watch them all and wont stomp my feet like a ten year old because i cant see a guy race.
teamddr wrote:
Who’s stomping there feet it isn’t me Depriving a rider of the chance to represent his country is BS and defending the company that does it...
Who’s stomping there feet it isn’t me
Depriving a rider of the chance to represent his country is BS and defending the company that does it is just as bad
Anyway enjoy your MEC Imm for the biggest mx party of the year in Assen


Bye bye
Yep and i ll get pictures at ironman of the gp guys off weekend for ya. Better tell kroc and hrc they are depriving you. I will watch both mxon and mec. Make sure you dont watch mec or any sx.
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mxb2 8/12/2019 10:56am
8/12/2019 10:56am Edited Date/Time 8/12/2019 10:57am
mxb2 wrote:
And why wd tomac go to a non paying race he isnt contracted for? Kroc, marvin ferrandis, not going either. Did you mention their name?
RichardLoots wrote:
because of this after Redbud last year ..he was the one who said it , not Kroc ,Dylan or Marvin ... just a little reminder...
because of this after Redbud last year ..he was the one who said it , not Kroc ,Dylan or Marvin ...

just a little reminder , if he had said at that time he wouldnt race Assen because he wanted to win that Sx title and so fully prepare for it .. it would have been different but he said something else ...




US motocross champ, Eli Tomac, has continued reiterating his desire to get revenge on the GP riders and still seems angered by what happened at Red Bud and Herlings’ tweet. If Jeffrey Herlings, Tony Cairoli and the rest need any motivation for Assen next year, they already have it!

“It’s still in my head and my mind, it’s bugging me,” admitted Tomac in the MEC press conference despite just making a million dollars in a thrilling night in Vegas. “I know we are better than what we finished, but that’s why we go racing and we didn’t make it happen. I think it added probably three years on my career because I want to go over there and get revenge on those guys. All in all though, we did just get straight up beat.”
Yep thats what he said , guess his boss said no and the boss pays him. Kroc is germanys best rider, why wdnt he go?
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scott_nz 8/12/2019 11:15am
8/12/2019 11:15am Edited Date/Time 8/12/2019 11:16am
bigk218 wrote:
I have more respect for Kawasaki now than ever. Good for them. I think the us should completely boycott the MXDN all together. We at the...
I have more respect for Kawasaki now than ever. Good for them. I think the us should completely boycott the MXDN all together. We at the stars of the show. Without the USA
the mxdn is just another MXGP that no one cares about. Our teams and riders get no support or money out of going so....

It has nothing to do with pride and everything to do with the MXDN promoters taking advantage of the USA as usual
not true, the MXdn has still been huge the years USA did not go, and it is, and always has been the biggest mx race of the year ,

that being said, i dont blame Kawi USA for making a business decision, on a race that is not even on live TV in the states that would be very expensive to attend at the high level that the riders and fans would expect,
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Mr. Afterbar 8/12/2019 11:17am
8/12/2019 11:17am
mxb2 wrote:
Yep thats what he said , guess his boss said no and the boss pays him. Kroc is germanys best rider, why wdnt he go?
Don't waste your time. We know every year around this time that certain posters become even more unbearable than usual. I'm about ready to check out soon. These MXoN America haters are pathetic and childish. Funny you don't see the American posters constantly crying about what other countries are doing for the race.
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