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I will look the other way Kawasaki and support a brand who is willing To take a step forward when they are asked to
Biggest selling market is USA if not the second and declining support is unbelievable
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The majority of the market Kawasaki sell to either don’t know what the MXoN is, or care about it. I doubt they are worried. More focused on winning a supercross championship
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It seems to me that they made a business decision. Nothing more.
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rdmx151 8/10/2019 3:22pm
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Every one who rides mx knows mxdn and US market is the biggest for Kawasaki
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zehn 8/10/2019 3:23pm
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rdmx151 wrote:
Every one who rides mx knows mxdn and US market is the biggest for Kawasaki
Not even close. I would bet more than half of all active riders don't even follow pro racing in the US, let alone what's going on on the other side of the planet
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kb228 8/10/2019 3:25pm
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Mxdn isnt the biggest. Supercross is. Id be interested to see TV ratings of mxdn vs supercross A1.

Either way, kawis marketing team is more experienced than you are.
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rdmx151 8/10/2019 3:29pm
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rdmx151 wrote:
Every one who rides mx knows mxdn and US market is the biggest for Kawasaki
zehn wrote:
Not even close. I would bet more than half of all active riders don't even follow pro racing in the US, let alone what's going on...
Not even close. I would bet more than half of all active riders don't even follow pro racing in the US, let alone what's going on on the other side of the planet
Doesn’t makes sense If you own a mx bike from gear ads to rebull all you see is pro riders
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rdmx151 8/10/2019 3:34pm
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kb228 wrote:
Mxdn isnt the biggest. Supercross is. Id be interested to see TV ratings of mxdn vs supercross A1. Either way, kawis marketing team is more experienced...
Mxdn isnt the biggest. Supercross is. Id be interested to see TV ratings of mxdn vs supercross A1.

Either way, kawis marketing team is more experienced than you are.
I agree in USA supercross is a lot bigger then mxdn but if there is a race any race that the USA riders need them to support they should take a step forward
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rdmx151 wrote:
I will look the other way Kawasaki and support a brand who is willing To take a step forward when they are asked to Biggest selling...
I will look the other way Kawasaki and support a brand who is willing To take a step forward when they are asked to
Biggest selling market is USA if not the second and declining support is unbelievable
Well that leaves you to buy tm,suziki beta, gas gas.
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rdmx151 8/10/2019 3:39pm
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rdmx151 wrote:
I will look the other way Kawasaki and support a brand who is willing To take a step forward when they are asked to Biggest selling...
I will look the other way Kawasaki and support a brand who is willing To take a step forward when they are asked to
Biggest selling market is USA if not the second and declining support is unbelievable
mxb2 wrote:
Well that leaves you to buy tm,suziki beta, gas gas.
Husky’s , Yamaha team usa
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Yea my bad, add husky, yamaha.
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I actually like this team but will love to see Ac92 instead of cooper
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rdmx151 wrote:
I will look the other way Kawasaki and support a brand who is willing To take a step forward when they are asked to Biggest selling...
I will look the other way Kawasaki and support a brand who is willing To take a step forward when they are asked to
Biggest selling market is USA if not the second and declining support is unbelievable
Ok so let me get this straight the 2 time MX champion and rider that has won the most SX races in the past 3 or 4 years signs a new contract this year....he wants to race MXoN but doest put it in his contract for the team to support him.....


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It seems to me that they made a business decision. Nothing more.
Motorcycles are a drop in the bucket for KHI. This is business 101 to them as far as a bottom line, MX is probably a decent write off for them. Doubt me? Google Kawasaki Heavy Industries.......
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People are so easily agitated these days. Kawi has different goals that don’t mesh well with their participation this time around.
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So 5 guys are not going to buy a dirt bike so kawi is losing 40 grand possibly?

And how much does it cost them to go?
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Excaliburbmx wrote:
So 5 guys are not going to buy a dirt bike so kawi is losing 40 grand possibly? And how much does it cost them to...
So 5 guys are not going to buy a dirt bike so kawi is losing 40 grand possibly?

And how much does it cost them to go?
Maybe for this they don’t mind at all
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APLMAN99 8/10/2019 6:39pm
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rdmx151 wrote:
I will look the other way Kawasaki and support a brand who is willing To take a step forward when they are asked to Biggest selling...
I will look the other way Kawasaki and support a brand who is willing To take a step forward when they are asked to
Biggest selling market is USA if not the second and declining support is unbelievable
You understand that these riders aren't exactly fighting for our freedoms, right?

The MXoN is a cool race and all, but in reality it's turned into more of a "faux patriotism for the wallet of Luongo only" type of thing.

Since the riders are expected to perform for free, I think that all revenues should be donated to appropriate charities. Let's see what happens when everyone involved makes as much (little) as the riders do for the event......
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rdmx151 8/10/2019 6:39pm
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rdmx151 wrote:
I will look the other way Kawasaki and support a brand who is willing To take a step forward when they are asked to Biggest selling...
I will look the other way Kawasaki and support a brand who is willing To take a step forward when they are asked to
Biggest selling market is USA if not the second and declining support is unbelievable
Helda wrote:
Ok so let me get this straight the 2 time MX champion and rider that has won the most SX races in the past 3 or...
Ok so let me get this straight the 2 time MX champion and rider that has won the most SX races in the past 3 or 4 years signs a new contract this year....he wants to race MXoN but doest put it in his contract for the team to support him.....


Did you see anything about the rider?
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rdmx151 8/10/2019 6:43pm
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rdmx151 wrote:
I will look the other way Kawasaki and support a brand who is willing To take a step forward when they are asked to Biggest selling...
I will look the other way Kawasaki and support a brand who is willing To take a step forward when they are asked to
Biggest selling market is USA if not the second and declining support is unbelievable
APLMAN99 wrote:
You understand that these riders aren't exactly fighting for our freedoms, right? The MXoN is a cool race and all, but in reality it's turned into...
You understand that these riders aren't exactly fighting for our freedoms, right?

The MXoN is a cool race and all, but in reality it's turned into more of a "faux patriotism for the wallet of Luongo only" type of thing.

Since the riders are expected to perform for free, I think that all revenues should be donated to appropriate charities. Let's see what happens when everyone involved makes as much (little) as the riders do for the event......
Again not talking about the rider but riders wanted to go I believe the USA team pick them and Kawasaki refuse to support
That’s the story
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Excaliburbmx wrote:
So 5 guys are not going to buy a dirt bike so kawi is losing 40 grand possibly? And how much does it cost them to...
So 5 guys are not going to buy a dirt bike so kawi is losing 40 grand possibly?

And how much does it cost them to go?
5 bikes, they be lucky to 'make' 5k off 5 bikes.
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Excaliburbmx wrote:
So 5 guys are not going to buy a dirt bike so kawi is losing 40 grand possibly? And how much does it cost them to...
So 5 guys are not going to buy a dirt bike so kawi is losing 40 grand possibly?

And how much does it cost them to go?
I bet you they lose out on a lot more than 5 bikes, plus a lot of bad PR won't help.
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rdmx151 8/10/2019 6:46pm
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Very few people do something to make things different, I don’t care I’ll do my part
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Excaliburbmx wrote:
So 5 guys are not going to buy a dirt bike so kawi is losing 40 grand possibly? And how much does it cost them to...
So 5 guys are not going to buy a dirt bike so kawi is losing 40 grand possibly?

And how much does it cost them to go?
Those 5 guys don’t ride and if they purchased a bike it would be a used one for $1500
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rdmx151 wrote:
I will look the other way Kawasaki and support a brand who is willing To take a step forward when they are asked to Biggest selling...
I will look the other way Kawasaki and support a brand who is willing To take a step forward when they are asked to
Biggest selling market is USA if not the second and declining support is unbelievable
APLMAN99 wrote:
You understand that these riders aren't exactly fighting for our freedoms, right? The MXoN is a cool race and all, but in reality it's turned into...
You understand that these riders aren't exactly fighting for our freedoms, right?

The MXoN is a cool race and all, but in reality it's turned into more of a "faux patriotism for the wallet of Luongo only" type of thing.

Since the riders are expected to perform for free, I think that all revenues should be donated to appropriate charities. Let's see what happens when everyone involved makes as much (little) as the riders do for the event......
rdmx151 wrote:
Again not talking about the rider but riders wanted to go I believe the USA team pick them and Kawasaki refuse to support
That’s the story
Kawasaki knows that their riders won’t really be paid for the event, Kawasaki would incur the expenses, and the only guy getting paid would be Luongo and probably a few guys that he greases at the FIM.

It’s a motorcycle race, not the storming of the beaches of Normandy......
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rdmx151 8/10/2019 6:59pm
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APLMAN99 wrote:
You understand that these riders aren't exactly fighting for our freedoms, right? The MXoN is a cool race and all, but in reality it's turned into...
You understand that these riders aren't exactly fighting for our freedoms, right?

The MXoN is a cool race and all, but in reality it's turned into more of a "faux patriotism for the wallet of Luongo only" type of thing.

Since the riders are expected to perform for free, I think that all revenues should be donated to appropriate charities. Let's see what happens when everyone involved makes as much (little) as the riders do for the event......
rdmx151 wrote:
Again not talking about the rider but riders wanted to go I believe the USA team pick them and Kawasaki refuse to support
That’s the story
APLMAN99 wrote:
Kawasaki knows that their riders won’t really be paid for the event, Kawasaki would incur the expenses, and the only guy getting paid would be Luongo...
Kawasaki knows that their riders won’t really be paid for the event, Kawasaki would incur the expenses, and the only guy getting paid would be Luongo and probably a few guys that he greases at the FIM.

It’s a motorcycle race, not the storming of the beaches of Normandy......
I don’t relate to what your saying the post is about the only race in the world where all nations compete and the best riders get pick and do not go for lack of support from the manufacturer
None of the teams get paid and husky will support 2 riders fro USA and many more I bet
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rdmx151 wrote:
Again not talking about the rider but riders wanted to go I believe the USA team pick them and Kawasaki refuse to support
That’s the story
APLMAN99 wrote:
Kawasaki knows that their riders won’t really be paid for the event, Kawasaki would incur the expenses, and the only guy getting paid would be Luongo...
Kawasaki knows that their riders won’t really be paid for the event, Kawasaki would incur the expenses, and the only guy getting paid would be Luongo and probably a few guys that he greases at the FIM.

It’s a motorcycle race, not the storming of the beaches of Normandy......
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I don’t relate to what your saying the post is about the only race in the world where all nations compete and the best riders get...
I don’t relate to what your saying the post is about the only race in the world where all nations compete and the best riders get pick and do not go for lack of support from the manufacturer
None of the teams get paid and husky will support 2 riders fro USA and many more I bet
Whether other manufacturers decide to support riders or not is obviously their choice, but Kawasaki’s position is pretty reasonable overall.

The “all nations compete” angle has turned into more of a marketing ploy than anything else, though. And it’s marketing to enrich one person only. Obviously the marketing works well based on how many seem to equate a rider not going as being “unpatriotic” or not loving their country. That’s crap.

And while I have no doubt that Kawasaki is fine with their riders not going and even prefer that they not risk injury, both of those riders had enough leverage and demand when they signed their contracts that they likely could have easily gotten a clause that guaranteed support if they were chosen for the team. They either didn’t exert that leverage or they aren’t enforcing it now.
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tcallahan707 8/10/2019 8:58pm
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Take my upvote. Kawi made a business decision but that doesn't mean their aren't consequences to that decision. You do you man.

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Its funny when you think about it.. the US riders that started the whole win thing are legends wherever they go . The original Honda Trio put together by DeCoster that came and shocked the world changed MX in a way that those who lived through it will never forget. Honda stepped up and made it happen. Kawasaki US underestimate the importance of the MXoN. And the riders that dont go remove themselves from ever being part of that elite band of riders that are prepared to stand under their flag for fans, and not for thier own bank balance.
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Ok so let me get this straight the 2 time MX champion and rider that has won the most SX races in the past 3 or...
Ok so let me get this straight the 2 time MX champion and rider that has won the most SX races in the past 3 or 4 years signs a new contract this year....he wants to race MXoN but doest put it in his contract for the team to support him.....


He doesn't want to go..
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