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The Moto industry Itself is very special in the fact that all of us pay thousands and thousands of dollars for bikes and gear to go out and unload at our local tracks to rip a few hours a week. With that being said it seems like most of these main stream Moto companies are becoming more and more out of touch with the realities that all of us face as riders.
It also seems that in our industry we are very reluctant to try out some of the new or smaller companies that are the true die hards of the sport. As consumers and every day Guys with jobs and families and responsibilities, what would you guys like to see from newer Moto companies trying to step into the spotlight? What kind of ads stick out? Do you like cookie cutter athletes or raw 90’s style?
It also seems that in our industry we are very reluctant to try out some of the new or smaller companies that are the true die hards of the sport. As consumers and every day Guys with jobs and families and responsibilities, what would you guys like to see from newer Moto companies trying to step into the spotlight? What kind of ads stick out? Do you like cookie cutter athletes or raw 90’s style?
Everything else is secondary
I also don't care about hip adds. Only how good the product is.
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It’d also be cool if they made 125s again
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also, prosthetic hip additions are purely a personal decision modification bro
Personally I’m pretty satisfied with what I see from moto companies. They have what I want and get it to me fast and make me look factory, even if I’m getting lapped!
And makes it happen. Red Bull for example does a great job.
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Just using an ignition cover as a random example, you're looking at an order of at least 15 units just to make your money back on the time, materials, design, setup, etc. Is the market big enough to sell 30+ units so you could make some money in the end? I know looking around the Socal tracks, I'll be lucky if I can spot one 2000/2001 CR250. Maybe there are a couple more in the desert or something, but I can look around the track and spot 30+ current year KTMs. Or Hondas, Yamahas, etc.
For the smaller companies, especially, we have a hard enough time just keeping up with products for the current bikes. So adding all the older bikes on top of that just isn't realistic, especially when the market is 30x bigger for the newer bikes (using my guesstimate above by looking around at the track).
The ignition cover example is on the lower end of expense to produce. To address your examples specifically, Ti footpegs are a significant investment in material (Ti is pricey!), but similar to the ignition cover otherwise as far as design, setup, etc. The airbox is an enormous investment in tooling, on the order of $10k+. That's a lot of airboxes to sell...
BTW, regarding footpegs, did you check to see if current year parts fit the 01? I know the 2015 footpegs bolt right up to a 2003.
I think the average MX consumer has a distorted view of the size of our sport. When you break it down to how many 01 CR250's really might be out there, and the cost to make, market and sell the product...it makes sense why companies choose to produce the products they do.
Some say liability but I can order a $7k mtn bike and put it together and get just as hurt as if I put the front tire and handlebars on a new Ktm 450.
Most direct to consumer bicycle sales also save quite a bit of money over buying from a shop but people will still go into shops and buy bikes just as they would with some dirtbikes. Most dealerships I’ve gone into treat selling dirtbikes as a hassle anyway.
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