***CRATE BIKE***

BobPA wrote:

C'mon chief, you are comparing a used car sale to a new car sale?? You cannot be that far off base. Come back to me when...

C'mon chief, you are comparing a used car sale to a new car sale?? You cannot be that far off base. Come back to me when you have a real example. This is how rumors start....Uninformed cheapskates talking about shit they do not understand.

2stoked wrote:

It’s a new car guy. New car straight off the lot. I’m confused where you getting the used car from? Lol I gave you examples using...

It’s a new car guy. New car straight off the lot. I’m confused where you getting the used car from? Lol I gave you examples using businesses you said so????

bh84 wrote:

We all assumed it was used because you used Kelly Black Book as a basis for the price. That’s a used car valuation tool.

BobPA wrote:

C'mon chief, you are comparing a used car sale to a new car sale?? You cannot be that far off base. Come back to me when...

C'mon chief, you are comparing a used car sale to a new car sale?? You cannot be that far off base. Come back to me when you have a real example. This is how rumors start....Uninformed cheapskates talking about shit they do not understand.

2stoked wrote:

It’s a new car guy. New car straight off the lot. I’m confused where you getting the used car from? Lol I gave you examples using...

It’s a new car guy. New car straight off the lot. I’m confused where you getting the used car from? Lol I gave you examples using businesses you said so????

BobPA wrote:

Oh really buddy. Why would you mention the KBB value of a new car? I was not even aware Chevy made a car for $15k....I’m impressed...

Oh really buddy. Why would you mention the KBB value of a new car? I was not even aware Chevy made a car for $15k....I’m impressed. Read the sticker, I’ll bet you $1k that there is a destination charge on it...providing it is new, and actually exists.

lostboy819 wrote:

All the KKB new car guide does is give you a fair market range and has so many variables with options and markets etc. Its pretty...

All the KKB new car guide does is give you a fair market range and has so many variables with options and markets etc. Its pretty much a worthless guide for new cars because it does not take in to consideration rebates, dealer hold back , dealer incentives, floorplan etc etc.

The bottom line is you paid the dealers full asking price but if you are happy with the deal then that is all that matters. The only other thing worse than that is people who go and tell the dealer how much they want to pay per month, that is what is called "buying a payment" Salesmen love that and also the "no haggle low price" dealers, they prey on the weak and uninformed buyers.

I bought a 1970 Chevy LUV when I was 18 and I still don't know what I paid for it and don't want to know, all I know is I paid $214 a month for a long time. live and learn.

slowgti wrote:

You think you could wait until the 2020's hit and buy a 2019 that's been marked down? Dealers don't make squat on dirt bikes, I don't...

You think you could wait until the 2020's hit and buy a 2019 that's been marked down?

Dealers don't make squat on dirt bikes, I don't think most of them would sell them unless they had too.

Just a question for the OP, what do you do for a living?

lostboy819 wrote:

All the KKB new car guide does is give you a fair market range and has so many variables with options and markets etc. Its pretty...

All the KKB new car guide does is give you a fair market range and has so many variables with options and markets etc. Its pretty much a worthless guide for new cars because it does not take in to consideration rebates, dealer hold back , dealer incentives, floorplan etc etc.

The bottom line is you paid the dealers full asking price but if you are happy with the deal then that is all that matters. The only other thing worse than that is people who go and tell the dealer how much they want to pay per month, that is what is called "buying a payment" Salesmen love that and also the "no haggle low price" dealers, they prey on the weak and uninformed buyers.

I bought a 1970 Chevy LUV when I was 18 and I still don't know what I paid for it and don't want to know, all I know is I paid $214 a month for a long time. live and learn.

2stoked wrote:

I’m very happy with like I said the only think I don’t like about Motorsport dealers is there unfair fees and how they throw them on...

I’m very happy with like I said the only think I don’t like about Motorsport dealers is there unfair fees and how they throw them on last min. It’s one thing to be looking at the tag and know what the price is gunna be after everything is done but when I see 10,000 on the tag and then he’s trying to get me to sign a 13,000+ tag makes no sense. Is it really 400+ dollars to put a tire and handlebars on? on top of a dealer fee that they don’t tell you really what it’s for? I don’t understand how this thread ended up like this I just wanted to know if I could buy a crate bike damn

lostboy819 wrote:

I see what you are saying but unfortunately that is how sales work, they can pull you in with a low price and then pad it...

I see what you are saying but unfortunately that is how sales work, they can pull you in with a low price and then pad it as the deal goes on. I would check with some of the suggestion that some of the members have been giving you for dealers who will sell you a bike in the crate. There is nothing better than un crating it and setting it up yourself.

2stoked wrote:

I’m a aviation mechanic. I could do a 2019 but I figured if I was gunna get a new one might as well get the newest...

I’m a aviation mechanic.

I could do a 2019 but I figured if I was gunna get a new one might as well get the newest and greatest

slowgti wrote:

The newest and greatest costs the most. The reason people are giving you a hard time is because you are acting like it's the dealers fault...

The newest and greatest costs the most.

The reason people are giving you a hard time is because you are acting like it's the dealers fault you can't buy a bike in a crate. It's been explained several times why you can't.

I'm positive there is some markup and profit margin that's added to your wage at work. There is no difference between your employer adding money on top of your wage and billing the customer for it, and the dealer adding money on top of their wholesale cost of the bike. They have a lot of people to pay before they make any money.

hbdesigns913 wrote:

Good luck man! Find a dealer you can build a good relationship with and buy the bike. That’s worth a couple hundred extra bucks down the...

Good luck man! Find a dealer you can build a good relationship with and buy the bike. That’s worth a couple hundred extra bucks down the road. Especially if you some kind of freak mechanical problem right after you get the bike.

2stoked wrote:

I never said it was the dealer fault I couldn’t get a crate bike I was just talking about there fees? I get dealers won’t do...

I never said it was the dealer fault I couldn’t get a crate bike I was just talking about there fees? I get dealers won’t do that but people are getting them so I just wanted to see where they were getting them and explaining why I don’t want to buy one from the dealer. I understand people have to get paid but I’m not paying 400+ for 30 mins of work to put a couple things on. On top of dealer fees which I don’t know what that goes to? I don’t do 30 mins of work and charge the airline for 40 hours. That’s what I feel like there doing

slowgti wrote:

Ask your boss what your total billable rate is per hour. You are most likely paying the same setup fee a guy buying a gold wing...

Ask your boss what your total billable rate is per hour.

You are most likely paying the same setup fee a guy buying a gold wing is paying. They average it out, lose money on the gold wing and make it on the dirt bike. I'm not saying it's right but that's how it is.

Indy mxer wrote:

My brother is a longtime dealer. He would even say $400 for set up is way too high. He sells bikes at his quoted price, plus...

My brother is a longtime dealer. He would even say $400 for set up is way too high. He sells bikes at his quoted price, plus tax and a $30 doc fee. There are still good dealers out there. You just have to look around.

slowgti wrote:

Ask your boss what your total billable rate is per hour. You are most likely paying the same setup fee a guy buying a gold wing...

Ask your boss what your total billable rate is per hour.

You are most likely paying the same setup fee a guy buying a gold wing is paying. They average it out, lose money on the gold wing and make it on the dirt bike. I'm not saying it's right but that's how it is.

2stoked wrote:

We charge 64 an hour. Doesn’t matter if it’s a delta plane or a small passenger plane. Now we do round up so if we’re there...

We charge 64 an hour. Doesn’t matter if it’s a delta plane or a small passenger plane. Now we do round up so if we’re there only for 20 mins we charge a hour but the customer is aware of this. We know how much we need to make to keep running and we make sure every customer knows exactly what they are paying for before the job even starts. Sure there might be a unexpected delay or problem but we take that hit to keep our customers happy.

olds cool wrote:

Most tractor dealers around here charge $75-$100 per hr for labor. For an aviation repair company like the one you work for to only charge $64...

Most tractor dealers around here charge $75-$100 per hr for labor. For an aviation repair company like the one you work for to only charge $64 per hr is a little hard for me to process but hey, if I ever get a plane I’ll have it flown to you guys to get it worked on!