Grill Shopping-What Ya Got?

Kelz87
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I've been shopping for grills lately and wanted to get some insight from you guys. It's just for me to cook dinners on after work pretty much. I've always wanted to try a smoker, mainly for sentimental purposes because my grandpa did it when we were kids. But they seem less practical for me really

♦Gas: I'm least interested, but I like the convenience factor and no ashes

♦Char-Smoker: Want, but have never used one. Seems slower, harder to use but portable

♦Pellet: Also want, but more expensive and needs an electrical outlet. Really nice though!


I almost bought a small patio char-griller today for $69 (char-griller 1515) but it's pretty small. Mainly want to cook chicken, steaks, potatoes, etc Tongue

Thoughts?
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6/27/2019 3:34am
This is my opinion, buy a round Weber. You can grill or indirect smoke on this. Vents let you have total control over your temps when you smoke, close all the vents and you can snuff out the fire quickly. It’s big enough for to cook for a couple of people. Use real wood chunks for smoking. Gas grills leave a gas flavor. As I tell my brother, if you’re using a pellet smoker, might as well put it in the oven!! And they can sit outside without a cover and last many years. I have bought several different grills and smoker pits over the years, and always have better food off the Weber.
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Before reading your post I was going to put the exact same answer now all I have to do it say is “what 2smokertillend said” love my Webber engen have a mini Q for camping and caravaning they are awesome.
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Gas grill for cooking good, quick.

Gas smoker for when you have all day to put into something really good - holds a solid even heat as long as the bottle has gas in it.

I don't think I could pick just one to do it all.

Have a Broil King gas grill, and Masterchef (I think?) gas smoker, the two door vertical one. Smoker doesn't get used a whole lot but is very capable with a couple cheap mods/add-ons. Broil King is solid, have had this one a long time, replaced the grids once. If I want to do quick with some smoke, I'll throw some wood chips in it.

I don't seem to have the time or patience for charcoal.
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I’ll be the opposite here. Anytime I eat food from a charcoal grill, I taste nothing but lighter fluid. Throw in the ash/charcoal mess plus extended wait time in order to cook and it’s a disaster for me.

I have a Weber gas grill and GMG pellet smoker. The Weber is 15yrs old, has never been covered and still looks like new with no fading or rust anywhere. All I’ve done is replace the grates and flavorizer bars a couple of times. It’s hot in 10 minutes rarely flares up and produces a beautiful cook. Best $300 I’ve ever spent.

The smoker on the other hand is a different animal. It WILL give you a smoky flavor if you pack it with enough smoke but it’s a lot of work to use and maintain. I love cooking with it on special occasions but would hate to use it on a daily basis. High price/high maintenance.

With all of this being said, I’m really interested in the newer style griddle grills. They seem to be the most versatile grill by far and have well thought out grease collection systems. It seems the possibilities would be endless with a large outdoor hot top.

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6/27/2019 5:21am Edited Date/Time 6/27/2019 5:23am
Rec Tec Trailblazer RT-340: https://www.rectecgrills.com/rec-tec-grills-trailblazer/

Bought this a few months ago and I'm absolutely in love. Use it 3-4 times a week. The convenience of propane with the cook of a smoker. Ranges from 200-500 degrees. Has a wi-fi app that allows you to control it when you're not even home. I've done whole chickens, wings, ribs, pork butt, and burgers with great results. Cleaning is cake. Cover the drip pan with foil. When it's time to replace the foil, vacuum the pellet ash at the same time. Takes 5 mins and I've only done it twice so far.





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sam hain
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6/27/2019 5:27am
I've been wanting one of those blackstone flat top grills myself.
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6/27/2019 5:28am
I have a traeger and I love it. I wasnt sold on it at first, and really had to experiment and learn in order to make it into a grill instead of an oven.
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6/27/2019 6:55am
I am a Weber, Green Egg, and Traeger dealer. Oh, and I sell Blackstones as well....a lot of them.





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6/27/2019 6:59am Edited Date/Time 6/27/2019 7:01am
The Weber can do no wrong. It is magic. I have had every grill you can think of and put many barely used by the road but nothing comes close to the Weber in everyone who eats here's opinion. Gas grills taste like ga-ass. 😁
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I’m another Weber fan. Living near the coast I was going through the cheaply Home Depot grills every two years. Bought a Weber gas grill 4 years ago and it is as good as new. Have the round Weber with coals as backup but the propane is so easy to deal with a rarely get into the charcoal cooking anymore
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Rec Tec Trailblazer RT-340: https://www.rectecgrills.com/rec-tec-grills-trailblazer/ Bought this a few months ago and I'm absolutely in love. Use it 3-4 times a week. The convenience of propane...
Rec Tec Trailblazer RT-340: https://www.rectecgrills.com/rec-tec-grills-trailblazer/

Bought this a few months ago and I'm absolutely in love. Use it 3-4 times a week. The convenience of propane with the cook of a smoker. Ranges from 200-500 degrees. Has a wi-fi app that allows you to control it when you're not even home. I've done whole chickens, wings, ribs, pork butt, and burgers with great results. Cleaning is cake. Cover the drip pan with foil. When it's time to replace the foil, vacuum the pellet ash at the same time. Takes 5 mins and I've only done it twice so far.





That is quite intriguing.

Have seen nothing like that around here.

Hmm...
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6/27/2019 5:39pm Edited Date/Time 6/27/2019 5:42pm
I sell grills all day long at my summer gig, seen so many former Char-Broil, Blue Rhino, etc. cheap grill owners come in every 2 years to buy a new grill because they burned out their shit and need to come in and buy a new grill. On the other hand, I've sold Webers to people who are replacing their 20 year old Spirit II only because they just want a new one.

Both gas and charcoal, Weber is hands down the best quality, widely available grills on the market. There's a reason they have a 10 year warranty on their products.

We live in Alaska and have had our Spirit II for 15 years now, never cover it during the winter, grill all winter and summer long, never replaced anything but the grates and flavorizer bars. Also had our Weber kettle just as long, same story. I've grilled direct, indirect, smoked whole chickens, ribs, etc. on both, always turn out excellent. Yes they have a different tastes but each has its place.

PS if your gas grill leaves a gas taste, you're doing something wrong or you're using a shit product. If your charcoal grill tastes like lighter fluid, you didn't let the coals burn long enough before cooking, or you should just use a chimney to light your coals.

Also, check out lump charcoal for a sear like you can't imagine.
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6/27/2019 7:52pm
zehn wrote:
I sell grills all day long at my summer gig, seen so many former Char-Broil, Blue Rhino, etc. cheap grill owners come in every 2 years...
I sell grills all day long at my summer gig, seen so many former Char-Broil, Blue Rhino, etc. cheap grill owners come in every 2 years to buy a new grill because they burned out their shit and need to come in and buy a new grill. On the other hand, I've sold Webers to people who are replacing their 20 year old Spirit II only because they just want a new one.

Both gas and charcoal, Weber is hands down the best quality, widely available grills on the market. There's a reason they have a 10 year warranty on their products.

We live in Alaska and have had our Spirit II for 15 years now, never cover it during the winter, grill all winter and summer long, never replaced anything but the grates and flavorizer bars. Also had our Weber kettle just as long, same story. I've grilled direct, indirect, smoked whole chickens, ribs, etc. on both, always turn out excellent. Yes they have a different tastes but each has its place.

PS if your gas grill leaves a gas taste, you're doing something wrong or you're using a shit product. If your charcoal grill tastes like lighter fluid, you didn't let the coals burn long enough before cooking, or you should just use a chimney to light your coals.

Also, check out lump charcoal for a sear like you can't imagine.
I have a cheapy charbroil. The SS burners took a shit after 3 years of moderate use. I have had the charbroil commercial with the bronze burners and they went bad too. They were lifetime warranted. So I got replacements free. They were cast iron. They went tits up too. My kitchen range is probably 30 years old and the burners are fine. What's the dealio here? Why do grill burners fail? Never had a Weber gas grill but every other one I have ever had started circling the drain after about 3 years. Natural gas, propane, didn't matter, the burners went bad. The thing is that for about 20 or so years, our grill got used every day year round. Not so much for the last 5 years but maybe is takes a toll. I don't know.
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zehn wrote:
I sell grills all day long at my summer gig, seen so many former Char-Broil, Blue Rhino, etc. cheap grill owners come in every 2 years...
I sell grills all day long at my summer gig, seen so many former Char-Broil, Blue Rhino, etc. cheap grill owners come in every 2 years to buy a new grill because they burned out their shit and need to come in and buy a new grill. On the other hand, I've sold Webers to people who are replacing their 20 year old Spirit II only because they just want a new one.

Both gas and charcoal, Weber is hands down the best quality, widely available grills on the market. There's a reason they have a 10 year warranty on their products.

We live in Alaska and have had our Spirit II for 15 years now, never cover it during the winter, grill all winter and summer long, never replaced anything but the grates and flavorizer bars. Also had our Weber kettle just as long, same story. I've grilled direct, indirect, smoked whole chickens, ribs, etc. on both, always turn out excellent. Yes they have a different tastes but each has its place.

PS if your gas grill leaves a gas taste, you're doing something wrong or you're using a shit product. If your charcoal grill tastes like lighter fluid, you didn't let the coals burn long enough before cooking, or you should just use a chimney to light your coals.

Also, check out lump charcoal for a sear like you can't imagine.
borg wrote:
I have a cheapy charbroil. The SS burners took a shit after 3 years of moderate use. I have had the charbroil commercial with the bronze...
I have a cheapy charbroil. The SS burners took a shit after 3 years of moderate use. I have had the charbroil commercial with the bronze burners and they went bad too. They were lifetime warranted. So I got replacements free. They were cast iron. They went tits up too. My kitchen range is probably 30 years old and the burners are fine. What's the dealio here? Why do grill burners fail? Never had a Weber gas grill but every other one I have ever had started circling the drain after about 3 years. Natural gas, propane, didn't matter, the burners went bad. The thing is that for about 20 or so years, our grill got used every day year round. Not so much for the last 5 years but maybe is takes a toll. I don't know.
Borg...I did the same thing for probably 30 years. Bought charbroilers or whatever was cheap at Home Depot/Lowes and they would all take a crap right before a big BBQ. Every other year it seemed like I was tossing them out. Finally bought a Weber for probably 3 times the cost of the cheapys but that thing is as good as new and hasn’t caused me one bit of trouble. Took me way to long to wise up
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I buy a cheap-ass $80 gas grill every 3 years or so. When the thing burns out, I chuck it and buy a new one. Never tastes like gas. In fact, sometimes I soak some mesquite chips and drop 'em in the bottom so they can slowly incinerate and give off some flavor.
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Thanks for the replies guys, it sounds like Weber is the way to go for a quality grill. I had no idea it was such a durable grill so that’s good to know! Being military though, I’m not super worried about longevity since I’m probably putting in for an overseas assignment within the next 2 years. When I’m settled, I’ll be shopping for a Weber Wink




Spotted this guy last night, a gas side and a charcoal side. Price is pretty cheap too
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Look at a Lang 36 hybrid. Half smoker and have char grill
6/28/2019 11:55am
JRT812 wrote:
Look at a Lang 36 hybrid. Half smoker and have char grill
Just checked out the Lang 36 hybrid, really nice but dang she’s expensive. I’m following this thread as I’ll also need a new grill in the near future.
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6/28/2019 3:45pm Edited Date/Time 6/28/2019 3:49pm
borg wrote:
I have a cheapy charbroil. The SS burners took a shit after 3 years of moderate use. I have had the charbroil commercial with the bronze...
I have a cheapy charbroil. The SS burners took a shit after 3 years of moderate use. I have had the charbroil commercial with the bronze burners and they went bad too. They were lifetime warranted. So I got replacements free. They were cast iron. They went tits up too. My kitchen range is probably 30 years old and the burners are fine. What's the dealio here? Why do grill burners fail? Never had a Weber gas grill but every other one I have ever had started circling the drain after about 3 years. Natural gas, propane, didn't matter, the burners went bad. The thing is that for about 20 or so years, our grill got used every day year round. Not so much for the last 5 years but maybe is takes a toll. I don't know.
The thing with the burners is on cheaper models, they're essentially just bent sheet metal. They save on material costs/weight that way and they use poor quality sheet metal that's only good for a couple years of use. The heat combined with the drippings accelerates the rusting process and before you know it, your burners have basically disintegrated into nothing.

Webers use actual cast burners that are much more substantial in terms of weight and cost, but they last for up to 20 years depending on use/environment etc.

The reason your kitchen range lasts so long is that they are likely porcelain-coated steel or cast iron grates and you cook on a range in a pot or pan or some kind of vessel. Your drippings aren't falling directly onto your burners, which helps a lot. Also, home ranges are designed to hold up to daily use for a long time, and their construction/materials reflect that.
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Check out this for a small affordable smoker if you want to get into that. It’s a fun hobby and smoked meats are amazing. Company is owned by former Veteran. These pit barrel smokers are quite popular as they are easy to smoke with. I’ve got a propane gas grill when I want to grill, I’ve got an offset stick burner for when I’m doing bigger smoke stuff. And I have this pit barrel smoker when I’m doing smaller stuff. It’s great and easy to use.

https://pitbarrelcooker.com/
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6/29/2019 10:12am Edited Date/Time 6/29/2019 10:14am
JRT812 wrote:
Look at a Lang 36 hybrid. Half smoker and have char grill
MXant15 wrote:
Just checked out the Lang 36 hybrid, really nice but dang she’s expensive. I’m following this thread as I’ll also need a new grill in the...
Just checked out the Lang 36 hybrid, really nice but dang she’s expensive. I’m following this thread as I’ll also need a new grill in the near future.
New is but keep an eye out for used as well. Competition quality. Bought a bigger Lang hybrid used and couldn’t be happier. People are always selling the 36 because they want to go bigger
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I went with an Oklahoma Joe's smoker and a Webber. I use the Webber for direct grilling and the Oklahoma Joe's for mostly smoking, but also use it for thick steaks that I like to sear, then smoke. The Joe's is heavy gauge steel and will last a lot longer that the cheap Char Broil grills. Also, if you are using charcoal, you need to get a chimney and forget about lighter fluid. Coals are ready to go much faster and no lighter fluid smell.
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I had three-Weber Genesis 4-burner (three regular plus the “sear station” which puts an extra burner between left and middle), a Weber Kettle (one of the larger ones), and a Bradley smoker that uses pucks on an auto feed.

Ex took the kettle grill so that’s out...Laughing

I use my propane grill mostly during the week when time is an issue, or to do steaks (which I start in a heavy cast iron pan over the sear station). I used to use the kettle on weekends and for food with a lower heat and/or for throwing wood chips on. Also far better flavor, especially for things like skirt steak where you can go rocket-hot on the lump charcoal.

I use the Bradley for all my BBQ. It’s hands-off enough that I can walk away for a bit to get something done.

If I could only have one, I’d use a kettle grill with either briquettes if I was in a hurry/sidetracked or lump if I had time. Easily the most versatile-smoke, low and slow, hot, they do it all.

For me, other than steaks, propane doesn’t offer much other than convenience.
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Nighttrain wrote:
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Big Green Egg
Oh... wasn’t thinking about grills like that. My bad reese95w bro
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This is the classic one Kamado Joe that lowes now sells. Awesome value. The flavor and versatility is badass. Pizza turns out unreal.

Pictured is a boston butt and bacon wrapped stuff chicken thighs Smile
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7/5/2019 8:01pm
Nice grill dude. I have a similar older one, they kick ass.
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Homey55 wrote:
I went with an Oklahoma Joe's smoker and a Webber. I use the Webber for direct grilling and the Oklahoma Joe's for mostly smoking, but also...
I went with an Oklahoma Joe's smoker and a Webber. I use the Webber for direct grilling and the Oklahoma Joe's for mostly smoking, but also use it for thick steaks that I like to sear, then smoke. The Joe's is heavy gauge steel and will last a lot longer that the cheap Char Broil grills. Also, if you are using charcoal, you need to get a chimney and forget about lighter fluid. Coals are ready to go much faster and no lighter fluid smell.
Nice choice, if I were going for a dedicated smoker I'd choose the Oklahoma Joe
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