About that 125 Homoligation Rule....

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Johnny Ringo 5/22/2019 2:39pm
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He would probably work 2/3rds of the members here. Good for him, looks like he had a blast.
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Johnny Ringo wrote:
He would probably work 2/3rds of the members here. Good for him, looks like he had a blast.
Damn right. Age 50 and out there? Hell yeah.
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Johnny Ringo wrote:
He would probably work 2/3rds of the members here. Good for him, looks like he had a blast.
FWYT wrote:
Damn right. Age 50 and out there? Hell yeah.
So, that means he beat Keefer?Cool
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Since there bending rules, I wonder if a privateer racing the 250 or 450 class would be allowed to race the 125 class too (providing his team/sponsors ok it)? If I read the rules right this is not allowable but it could bring in some "gooder" riders i.e. Steinke Smile .
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Dropbear 5/22/2019 3:43pm
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Should be “run what you brung” as long as it’s a 125. In qualifying the top times that fill the gate capacity get to race and maybe those that don’t get 50% refund on entry fee.
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Kennyfreemoney 5/22/2019 3:46pm
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Dropbear wrote:
Should be “run what you brung” as long as it’s a 125. In qualifying the top times that fill the gate capacity get to race and...
Should be “run what you brung” as long as it’s a 125. In qualifying the top times that fill the gate capacity get to race and maybe those that don’t get 50% refund on entry fee.
no refund, just fill the gate!
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Dropbear 5/22/2019 3:48pm
5/22/2019 3:48pm Edited Date/Time 5/22/2019 3:51pm
Dropbear wrote:
Should be “run what you brung” as long as it’s a 125. In qualifying the top times that fill the gate capacity get to race and...
Should be “run what you brung” as long as it’s a 125. In qualifying the top times that fill the gate capacity get to race and maybe those that don’t get 50% refund on entry fee.
Kennyfreemoney wrote:
no refund, just fill the gate!
Great. I think if you slacken the entry requirements a lot more riders with fast older 125’s will enter. If they qualify they obviously aren’t slow and adds interest.
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ferg722 5/22/2019 3:53pm
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Sooooo can run my 02’ CR at HighPoint or nah??
Rules are 05-07 for Honda
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Kennyfreemoney 5/22/2019 3:55pm
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Sooooo can run my 02’ CR at HighPoint or nah?? Rules are 05-07 for Honda [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/05/22/349300/s1200_CC6D2FF7_BEF6_4040_869A_1B6D06935D10.jpg[/img]
Sooooo can run my 02’ CR at HighPoint or nah??
Rules are 05-07 for Honda
Contact DC and find out! Might need to get a bar pad. Aside from that, looks good to go!
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OldYZRider1 wrote:
Since there bending rules, I wonder if a privateer racing the 250 or 450 class would be allowed to race the 125 class too (providing his...
Since there bending rules, I wonder if a privateer racing the 250 or 450 class would be allowed to race the 125 class too (providing his team/sponsors ok it)? If I read the rules right this is not allowable but it could bring in some "gooder" riders i.e. Steinke Smile .
No, sorry, can only race one class.

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ferg722 wrote:
Sooooo can run my 02’ CR at HighPoint or nah?? Rules are 05-07 for Honda [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/05/22/349300/s1200_CC6D2FF7_BEF6_4040_869A_1B6D06935D10.jpg[/img]
Sooooo can run my 02’ CR at HighPoint or nah??
Rules are 05-07 for Honda
If it’s that clean? I imagine they could make an exception for something like that...

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mattyhamz2 5/22/2019 4:10pm
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ferg722 wrote:
Sooooo can run my 02’ CR at HighPoint or nah?? Rules are 05-07 for Honda [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/05/22/349300/s1200_CC6D2FF7_BEF6_4040_869A_1B6D06935D10.jpg[/img]
Sooooo can run my 02’ CR at HighPoint or nah??
Rules are 05-07 for Honda
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If it’s that clean? I imagine they could make an exception for something like that...

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Hey DC, why is there a limit on the years? Just curious about it. I don't think I've ever heard a reason why.
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ferg722 wrote:
Sooooo can run my 02’ CR at HighPoint or nah?? Rules are 05-07 for Honda [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/05/22/349300/s1200_CC6D2FF7_BEF6_4040_869A_1B6D06935D10.jpg[/img]
Sooooo can run my 02’ CR at HighPoint or nah??
Rules are 05-07 for Honda
DC wrote:
If it’s that clean? I imagine they could make an exception for something like that...

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mattyhamz2 wrote:
Hey DC, why is there a limit on the years? Just curious about it. I don't think I've ever heard a reason why.
We didn't want guys out there on vintage bikes, making it dangerous for the guys flying around on current ones. It's supposed to be a competitive, fun exhibition race and we figured keeping it within three years of last model release would be a good guideline and let a lot of people enter, and also keep much slower bikes out. It's worked well so far.

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sandman768 5/22/2019 4:16pm
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ferg722 wrote:
Sooooo can run my 02’ CR at HighPoint or nah?? Rules are 05-07 for Honda [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/05/22/349300/s1200_CC6D2FF7_BEF6_4040_869A_1B6D06935D10.jpg[/img]
Sooooo can run my 02’ CR at HighPoint or nah??
Rules are 05-07 for Honda
I would....Highly doubt whoever is taking your $ knows the difference between an 02 & 07...and That is one clean CR125!
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Dropbear 5/22/2019 4:17pm
5/22/2019 4:17pm Edited Date/Time 5/22/2019 4:24pm
DC wrote:
If it’s that clean? I imagine they could make an exception for something like that...

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mattyhamz2 wrote:
Hey DC, why is there a limit on the years? Just curious about it. I don't think I've ever heard a reason why.
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We didn't want guys out there on vintage bikes, making it dangerous for the guys flying around on current ones. It's supposed to be a competitive...
We didn't want guys out there on vintage bikes, making it dangerous for the guys flying around on current ones. It's supposed to be a competitive, fun exhibition race and we figured keeping it within three years of last model release would be a good guideline and let a lot of people enter, and also keep much slower bikes out. It's worked well so far.

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Ok, but real 125 development stopped 20-25 years ago for most brands. Some brands the older models were more pro ready than their later models Doesn’t mean they don’t haul though.
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DC wrote:
If it’s that clean? I imagine they could make an exception for something like that...

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mattyhamz2 wrote:
Hey DC, why is there a limit on the years? Just curious about it. I don't think I've ever heard a reason why.
DC wrote:
We didn't want guys out there on vintage bikes, making it dangerous for the guys flying around on current ones. It's supposed to be a competitive...
We didn't want guys out there on vintage bikes, making it dangerous for the guys flying around on current ones. It's supposed to be a competitive, fun exhibition race and we figured keeping it within three years of last model release would be a good guideline and let a lot of people enter, and also keep much slower bikes out. It's worked well so far.

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I won't comment on some of the other thing's concerning the 125 race , but I really do dig that you'll make some exception's. For example , like a bike what Ferg posted. Even though older , can still be extremely competitive , and in some cases be in better racing condition then a new 17' - 19' chassis lining up. I mean hell , even a well kept mid 90's bike may rail the hell out of a track in the right hands.
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ferg722 5/22/2019 4:29pm
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DC wrote:
If it’s that clean? I imagine they could make an exception for something like that...

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Bought it from the original owner whom purchased it to follow his kid around the yard - fouled the plug and parked it for 16 years. Sold it to me with the nipples still on the tires so he could buy a new riding mower.
She’s cleaner than your church shoes Mr. Coombs

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I don’t recall #1 getting lapped by RV in the helmet cam footage. Good for him!
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DC wrote:
If it’s that clean? I imagine they could make an exception for something like that...

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mattyhamz2 wrote:
Hey DC, why is there a limit on the years? Just curious about it. I don't think I've ever heard a reason why.
DC wrote:
We didn't want guys out there on vintage bikes, making it dangerous for the guys flying around on current ones. It's supposed to be a competitive...
We didn't want guys out there on vintage bikes, making it dangerous for the guys flying around on current ones. It's supposed to be a competitive, fun exhibition race and we figured keeping it within three years of last model release would be a good guideline and let a lot of people enter, and also keep much slower bikes out. It's worked well so far.

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Yeah I was gonna ask the same thing... yeah I get the reasoning.

As both a racer and a race fan though...it would be for me the most exciting thing to ever happen in this sport , if you brought back the 125 national championship.
No homologation rules whatsoever for at least the first 3 years to give manufacturers that are willing a chance to build a works bike or a hybrid from an existing 250f chassis or whatever, no stupid arse age restrictions..let anyone race...policies of exclusion are seldom productive , and no stupid homologation requiring excessive amounts of units available for sale forcing out the small manufacturers like TM or Gas Gas etc from participating...that one is really cruel..
I wouldn't care if the races weren't on the same day, same track or same weekend as the 250 ( sorry, the up to 250 four stroke only ) championship or the 450 ( sorry, the up to 450 four stroke only ) championship.
I just say build it and they will come, start small if you have to and let it take on a life of its own..
Yep, policies of exclusion seldom serve the greater good, they generally only serve a minority of selfish vested interests!
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I’d rather see young riders racing 125s at national tracks than the silly, to me anyway, Loretta’s race as a proving ground. I can live with 4-strokes, but I do think there needs to be a 125 2t class for younger riders. Going from minis to a 250F seems excessive to me.

I can’t wait to see the 125s at Budds!
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PRM31 wrote:
I’d rather see young riders racing 125s at national tracks than the silly, to me anyway, Loretta’s race as a proving ground. I can live with...
I’d rather see young riders racing 125s at national tracks than the silly, to me anyway, Loretta’s race as a proving ground. I can live with 4-strokes, but I do think there needs to be a 125 2t class for younger riders. Going from minis to a 250F seems excessive to me.

I can’t wait to see the 125s at Budds!
Such as the EMX series?? Hopefully one day before it is too late.
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PRM31 5/22/2019 7:07pm
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PRM31 wrote:
I’d rather see young riders racing 125s at national tracks than the silly, to me anyway, Loretta’s race as a proving ground. I can live with...
I’d rather see young riders racing 125s at national tracks than the silly, to me anyway, Loretta’s race as a proving ground. I can live with 4-strokes, but I do think there needs to be a 125 2t class for younger riders. Going from minis to a 250F seems excessive to me.

I can’t wait to see the 125s at Budds!
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Such as the EMX series?? Hopefully one day before it is too late.
Exactly.

Probably help US MX too.
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ferg722 wrote:
Sooooo can run my 02’ CR at HighPoint or nah?? Rules are 05-07 for Honda [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/05/22/349300/s1200_CC6D2FF7_BEF6_4040_869A_1B6D06935D10.jpg[/img]
Sooooo can run my 02’ CR at HighPoint or nah??
Rules are 05-07 for Honda
DC wrote:
If it’s that clean? I imagine they could make an exception for something like that...

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What about the TM bikes are they out/banned now for the 125 races?
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ferg722 wrote:
Sooooo can run my 02’ CR at HighPoint or nah?? Rules are 05-07 for Honda [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/05/22/349300/s1200_CC6D2FF7_BEF6_4040_869A_1B6D06935D10.jpg[/img]
Sooooo can run my 02’ CR at HighPoint or nah??
Rules are 05-07 for Honda
DC wrote:
If it’s that clean? I imagine they could make an exception for something like that...

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MXMattii wrote:
What about the TM bikes are they out/banned now for the 125 races?
TM, GasGas, Sherco are all allowed.
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CR92 5/22/2019 7:29pm
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Man, after reading this whole thread and others, I really am loving everything about this 125 class. Thanks for having this extra series DC!
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ferg722 wrote:
Sooooo can run my 02’ CR at HighPoint or nah?? Rules are 05-07 for Honda [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/05/22/349300/s1200_CC6D2FF7_BEF6_4040_869A_1B6D06935D10.jpg[/img]
Sooooo can run my 02’ CR at HighPoint or nah??
Rules are 05-07 for Honda
DC wrote:
If it’s that clean? I imagine they could make an exception for something like that...

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MXMattii wrote:
What about the TM bikes are they out/banned now for the 125 races?
They are fine, I hope someone shows up on one of them!

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DC wrote:
If it’s that clean? I imagine they could make an exception for something like that...

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MXMattii wrote:
What about the TM bikes are they out/banned now for the 125 races?
DC wrote:
They are fine, I hope someone shows up on one of them!

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Thanks DC for this series. Hoping to make it to Red Bud to smell the premix.
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Kennyfreemoney wrote:
This doesn't look to be less than 3 years old (Since KTM still makes 2 strokes) [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/05/22/349264/s1200_Screen_Shot_2019_05_22_at_11.44.34_AM.jpg[/img]
This doesn't look to be less than 3 years old (Since KTM still makes 2 strokes)


Best shape ktm right there, imo. The bike looks awesome.
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