Tickle Suspension: FIM Corruption - Sue KTM

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milliebays 4/26/2019 8:20pm
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GuyB wrote:
Broc has had his hearing. Last I heard he’s still awaiting a decision. Bringing KTM into it? Why? Broc told me in the past that he...
Broc has had his hearing. Last I heard he’s still awaiting a decision.

Bringing KTM into it? Why? Broc told me in the past that he knew that when the B sample result came back the same as the A, he would get clipped. I think that’s a pretty standard contract item.

When I worked at Specialized, the riders knew that if they got popped on a positive test that they’d get fired. They had a former mountain bike World Cup winner go out like that.
Jared Graves still there...
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Rab 4/26/2019 8:24pm
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After Broc sues KTM, he should sue Aldon baker too Grinning
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NeedMoto 4/26/2019 8:29pm
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Landshark wrote:
I cannot believe how corrupt and absolutely inept the FIM is and has been. This drawn out procedure should have been amended long ago after the...
I cannot believe how corrupt and absolutely inept the FIM is and has been. This drawn out procedure should have been amended long ago after the James Stewart fiasco. The AMA, factory teams, and sponsors need to put their collective "foot down" and demand that Tickle receive a hearing ASAP!!

Be forewarned AMA, Factory Teams and sponsors.... the FIM's blatant targeting and mistreatment of AMA sanctioned riders is abhorrent and it could be you or your rider this happens to next.

IMO.... Tickle need to retain an attorney and sue the FIM and the executives by name personally. If this get's him nowhere, then Tickle should sue the AMA and KTM directly to force them to stand by their riders.

PS. I would also suggest that James Stewart sue the FIM for prematurely ending his career. I would think that with James money and clout, he could make this happen and even get an attorney to take on the case on a contingent basis.
APLMAN99 wrote:
Suing KTM makes even less sense than this guy's reasoning...…

https://youtu.be/QhjBlPucpd0
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Last Braaap 4/26/2019 10:00pm
4/26/2019 10:00pm Edited Date/Time 4/26/2019 10:00pm
Okay guys. Prepare your stones cuz i'm gonna say it.

UNIONIZE THE RIDERS!!!

Just kidding. Riders don't have any buttons to pull to be taken seriously by authorities like FIM or WADA. You are there on your own. Got in trouble? Too bad, here comes Billy to replace you in a second. Let me play sad song for you on my tiny whinolin.
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blockhead17 4/26/2019 10:55pm
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Moral of the story: don’t take banned substances.. don’t consume anything without knowing what’s in it.
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dkg 4/26/2019 10:57pm
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Once again for all of who can't seem to get it. When you do something incredibly stupid and then you come under the auspices of the...
Once again for all of who can't seem to get it.

When you do something incredibly stupid and then you come under the auspices of the law or a sanctioning body, then you are fucked. Ok? Are we clear? You don't get to say jack shit about anything. Nothing. Sometimes criminals wait YEARS for the outcome of their case. Same with civil matters, years go by before there is a resolution.

So half wits on here thinking that some asshat who cheated gets to set the timeline and make demands of anyone are dumb as shit. Too bad, so sad. I don't give one shit about cheaters.

Here's an idea, don't fucking cheat and then nothing happens. These guys are lucky l don't run the show because in my opinion there is nothing lower than this type of cheating. It would be one and done for me. No excuses, no John Jones idiocy. You pop hot, youre gone forever and excised from the record books. Fucking gone like you never existed. And until they do this people will think it's worth the risk.
You are a little misinformed here. The only reason some criminal cases take so long is that the Defendant is waiving the speedy trial rights and requesting it take longer. Tickle didn’t ask to wait all this time, to the contrary, he’s been trying to speed up the process. Admittedly this isn’t a criminal case, but it is quasi-criminal in nature and regardless, the delay to hearing is unconscionable and fundamentally unfair. I agree the best approach is not to cheat. Nonetheless, shit happens and sometimes there is no intent to cheat. A quick resolution by hearing is the only fair way to deal with the problem. Generally speaking a shoot first and ask questions later approach to issues like this really doesn’t accomplish the ends of justice. Nor does it accomplish the goal of removing PED use.
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RexEasely 4/26/2019 11:07pm
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You mean the cheaters?
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keinz 4/27/2019 3:42am
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Why not sue AMA also?
And once again .What FIM has to do with it? Get your facts sraight. It's wada and only wada case.
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Johnny Depp 4/27/2019 5:25am
4/27/2019 5:25am Edited Date/Time 4/27/2019 5:34am
Many here assume that to sue you have to have a good reason. Businesses settle all the time for no good reason because it makes business sense for economic and image reasons.

The cause IMO is "right to work" and it is a valid basis for a suit. There may or may not be an "At Will" agreement involved. That typically involves the employer, yet the race organization is the one blocking the ability to earn a living.

Innocent until proven guilty anyone?

Just like a pilot accused of drinking, or a doctor accused of negligence, they have a right to a day in court.
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MOTO732 4/27/2019 6:23am
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The AMA working through FIM adopted WADA to appear like a more legitimate racing organization. Good intentions. But I can't think of one positive thing the FIM or WADA has done to help the sport.
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dirty1974 4/27/2019 11:25am
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GuyB wrote:
Broc has had his hearing. Last I heard he’s still awaiting a decision. Bringing KTM into it? Why? Broc told me in the past that he...
Broc has had his hearing. Last I heard he’s still awaiting a decision.

Bringing KTM into it? Why? Broc told me in the past that he knew that when the B sample result came back the same as the A, he would get clipped. I think that’s a pretty standard contract item.

When I worked at Specialized, the riders knew that if they got popped on a positive test that they’d get fired. They had a former mountain bike World Cup winner go out like that.
Filip Meirhaeghe from Belgium .
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GuyB 4/27/2019 11:48am
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dirty1974 wrote:
Filip Meirhaeghe from Belgium .
You are correct, sir.
theprizefighter 4/27/2019 11:58am
4/27/2019 11:58am
soggy wrote:
Sue for what?
Landshark says, "...to force them to stand by their riders."

I laughed out loud at that one.
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theprizefighter 4/27/2019 12:04pm
4/27/2019 12:04pm
Rab wrote:
After Broc sues KTM, he should sue Aldon baker too Grinning
And then his parents for getting him his first dirk bike. If they had never done that, he wouldn't be in the predicament he's in now.
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MX-LIFE. 4/27/2019 12:14pm
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kb228 wrote:
Tickle is probably better off not trying to sue the FIM. They have more money than he does. Hes better off coaching or giving the FIM...
Tickle is probably better off not trying to sue the FIM. They have more money than he does. Hes better off coaching or giving the FIM the middle finger and go race elsewhere.

The FIM didnt ruin james career. Dungey did. James failed to file paperwork for medication. Thats on him.
That hit by Dungey for sure sealed the deal for James I'd really would like to hear what James has to say about that..
Sr_Vet_Rider 4/27/2019 1:55pm
4/27/2019 1:55pm
Landshark wrote:
I cannot believe how corrupt and absolutely inept the FIM is and has been. This drawn out procedure should have been amended long ago after the...
I cannot believe how corrupt and absolutely inept the FIM is and has been. This drawn out procedure should have been amended long ago after the James Stewart fiasco. The AMA, factory teams, and sponsors need to put their collective "foot down" and demand that Tickle receive a hearing ASAP!!

Be forewarned AMA, Factory Teams and sponsors.... the FIM's blatant targeting and mistreatment of AMA sanctioned riders is abhorrent and it could be you or your rider this happens to next.

IMO.... Tickle need to retain an attorney and sue the FIM and the executives by name personally. If this get's him nowhere, then Tickle should sue the AMA and KTM directly to force them to stand by their riders.

PS. I would also suggest that James Stewart sue the FIM for prematurely ending his career. I would think that with James money and clout, he could make this happen and even get an attorney to take on the case on a contingent basis.
Sorry, but you’re part of the problem here (in America) !!

SUE....SUE....SUE....!!!!

This kind of thinking is what is fucking up our country, I’m 100% against this thought process !!

Broc fucked up, he’s paying the price.

Stewart should SUE too ?? You got issues bud !

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smashingpumpkins167 4/27/2019 2:03pm
4/27/2019 2:03pm
Last Braaap wrote:
Okay guys. Prepare your stones cuz i'm gonna say it. UNIONIZE THE RIDERS!!! Just kidding. Riders don't have any buttons to pull to be taken seriously...
Okay guys. Prepare your stones cuz i'm gonna say it.

UNIONIZE THE RIDERS!!!

Just kidding. Riders don't have any buttons to pull to be taken seriously by authorities like FIM or WADA. You are there on your own. Got in trouble? Too bad, here comes Billy to replace you in a second. Let me play sad song for you on my tiny whinolin.
Welcome to adulthood.
StartedTooLate 4/27/2019 2:05pm
4/27/2019 2:05pm
Landshark wrote:
I cannot believe how corrupt and absolutely inept the FIM is and has been. This drawn out procedure should have been amended long ago after the...
I cannot believe how corrupt and absolutely inept the FIM is and has been. This drawn out procedure should have been amended long ago after the James Stewart fiasco. The AMA, factory teams, and sponsors need to put their collective "foot down" and demand that Tickle receive a hearing ASAP!!

Be forewarned AMA, Factory Teams and sponsors.... the FIM's blatant targeting and mistreatment of AMA sanctioned riders is abhorrent and it could be you or your rider this happens to next.

IMO.... Tickle need to retain an attorney and sue the FIM and the executives by name personally. If this get's him nowhere, then Tickle should sue the AMA and KTM directly to force them to stand by their riders.

PS. I would also suggest that James Stewart sue the FIM for prematurely ending his career. I would think that with James money and clout, he could make this happen and even get an attorney to take on the case on a contingent basis.
Do you actually understand the definition of "corruption". I think you should look it up.

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