Has Broc Tickle had his day in “court” yet?

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Edited Date/Time 3/28/2019 2:06pm
Today is March 26. I thought his hearing was going to be on the 20th of this month. Any updates? Do I have the year wrong?
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3/26/2019 6:24am
It is known that once you get on the WADA's naughty list you are done4. I am really sorry for Broc but his chances are slim and his chance to find a place on the grid are even slimmer thanks to the filibustering of WADA.
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3/26/2019 8:11am
I heard he was prepping for the outdoors on a 250 KTM, supposed to be a done deal?
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3/26/2019 11:52am
Racer X posted about it in here.
https://racerxonline.com/2019/03/22/racerhead-12
On more distant shores we heard through a very reliable source that Broc Tickle finally got his hearing started with the three judges who will decide his fate on his positive test from the 2018 San Diego Supercross for methylhexaneamine. Tickle’s case got a boost after AMA President Rob Dingman began serious push on the matter when after a new president of the FIM was elected and Dingman, who has not been on the FIM board since 2014, was named to the executive board and also Chair of the Finance Committee. Within the next ten days Tickle will meet with the three CDI (Court of International Discipline) panelists for a final decision. It is hoped that he will be able to return to racing sometime this year. There was also some movement on Cade Clason’s case—it was said to have been granted a retroactive TUE for Adderall, similar to what happened with James Stewart—and he will hopefully soon have his day in court as well. We are keeping a close eye on both cases and hope to have some news to report by the end of the month.
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3/26/2019 11:58am
What a joke. How do you explain this to a 'casual viewer'?
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3/26/2019 12:04pm Edited Date/Time 3/26/2019 12:05pm
You don’t. The casual viewer thinks wada is a legit organization trying to prevent cheating. So therefor labels tickle as a steroid cheatin junky. Stands in line with kids for chad reed autograph. Isn’t really affected. Doesn’t care much. Fills stands anyway and has some good family fun.
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3/26/2019 12:27pm
slowgti wrote:
What a joke. How do you explain this to a 'casual viewer'?
He tested positive for a banned substance, has been serving a provisional suspension, just had his hearing, and is now waiting to hear the final length of his suspension. The hypothetical casual fan is probably also a fan of other sports and is very familiar with athletes serving suspensions for PED's.
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3/26/2019 12:42pm
slowgti wrote:
What a joke. How do you explain this to a 'casual viewer'?
Ralph has a hard enough time remembering all the colors of the rainbow, i'd love to hear him explain something as convoluted as what is going on with Tickle/WADA
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Over a year on a provisional suspension, I'm not saying what he did isn't wrong, but we pay for wada. I don't like paying people to drag their feet.
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3/26/2019 12:57pm
Can someone explain exactly what he is waiting for?

I don't agree with the suspension for what its worth. But I thought the sentence is 2 or 4 years or whatever it is. And he's just basically asking for leniency for a shorter sentence. Is that wrong?

Or have they not "sentenced" him yet? If that's the case, there is no part of WADA that isn't a joke.

Who am I kidding. WADA is a bunch of self righteous idiots looking to validate their job. Look, we suspended 10 people this year (pay no attention to what they were "using"). We caught them and ruined them. We are doing our job. High five everyone.
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slowgti wrote:
Over a year on a provisional suspension, I'm not saying what he did isn't wrong, but we pay for wada. I don't like paying people to...
Over a year on a provisional suspension, I'm not saying what he did isn't wrong, but we pay for wada. I don't like paying people to drag their feet.
It hasn't been a year, his provisional suspension started April 14, 2018.
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3/26/2019 1:14pm
slowgti wrote:
What a joke. How do you explain this to a 'casual viewer'?
peelout wrote:
Ralph has a hard enough time remembering all the colors of the rainbow, i'd love to hear him explain something as convoluted as what is going...
Ralph has a hard enough time remembering all the colors of the rainbow, i'd love to hear him explain something as convoluted as what is going on with Tickle/WADA
"Well Ricky, as you know he was suspended for snorting a face-full of steroids at the San Diego round last year, and now we just wait for John Gallagher to let him know when he can race again."
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3/26/2019 1:16pm
IWreckALot wrote:
Can someone explain exactly what he is waiting for? I don't agree with the suspension for what its worth. But I thought the sentence is 2...
Can someone explain exactly what he is waiting for?

I don't agree with the suspension for what its worth. But I thought the sentence is 2 or 4 years or whatever it is. And he's just basically asking for leniency for a shorter sentence. Is that wrong?

Or have they not "sentenced" him yet? If that's the case, there is no part of WADA that isn't a joke.

Who am I kidding. WADA is a bunch of self righteous idiots looking to validate their job. Look, we suspended 10 people this year (pay no attention to what they were "using"). We caught them and ruined them. We are doing our job. High five everyone.
I'm pretty sure his suspension was 4 years.

I believe he is basically telling them that he didn't intentionally ingest the banned chemical, and is requesting something shorter (maybe no penalty at all?).
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3/26/2019 1:18pm
slowgti wrote:
What a joke. How do you explain this to a 'casual viewer'?
GrapeApe wrote:
He tested positive for a banned substance, has been serving a provisional suspension, just had his hearing, and is now waiting to hear the final length...
He tested positive for a banned substance, has been serving a provisional suspension, just had his hearing, and is now waiting to hear the final length of his suspension. The hypothetical casual fan is probably also a fan of other sports and is very familiar with athletes serving suspensions for PED's.
No joke there you have it. He did test positive for banned substance(PED) twice. What people think he could tell in this hearing.. "It was accident I will not use anymore. - Ok you are free to race then."
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3/26/2019 1:24pm
This is all real important but not one thing mention about the Bridge player banned for the positive test result. Where is the board/council on that matter??? Asking for a friend.
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3/26/2019 1:27pm
slowgti wrote:
What a joke. How do you explain this to a 'casual viewer'?
The casual viewer has no idea who Broc Tickle is.
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3/26/2019 2:23pm
tek14 wrote:
No joke there you have it. He did test positive for banned substance(PED) twice. What people think he could tell in this hearing.. "It was accident...
No joke there you have it. He did test positive for banned substance(PED) twice. What people think he could tell in this hearing.. "It was accident I will not use anymore. - Ok you are free to race then."
Technically he only had 1 failed test. The A Sample and B Sample are the same original sample split into 2 as a precaution from outside contamination. He failed 1 test, the B sample is there to insure the A sample wasn’t compromised by the lab or handlers or Russian KGB operatives.
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3/26/2019 2:28pm
Seriously, how hard is it for people to understand that this is nothing to do with WADA?

WADA decide what drugs are not permitted in sport.

WADA did the testing and posted the results. Quickly.

It’s the FIM who decide on the penalty (but based around WADA guidelines. If the penalty is too lenient WADA can challenge it in the Court of Arbitration in Sport).

It’s the FIM who have been ridiculously slow in awarding the penalty. WADA did their bit just fine.

The FIM recently had a clean out at the top. The outgoing regime were a bunch of useless, crooked, good-for-nothings. The new regime appear to be good, honest people from what I hear. However I imagine it’ll take months to clean up the shit that they inherited from the Mob.

Still should have dealt with Tickle’s case by now though.
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Robgvx wrote:
Seriously, how hard is it for people to understand that this is nothing to do with WADA? WADA decide what drugs are not permitted in sport...
Seriously, how hard is it for people to understand that this is nothing to do with WADA?

WADA decide what drugs are not permitted in sport.

WADA did the testing and posted the results. Quickly.

It’s the FIM who decide on the penalty (but based around WADA guidelines. If the penalty is too lenient WADA can challenge it in the Court of Arbitration in Sport).

It’s the FIM who have been ridiculously slow in awarding the penalty. WADA did their bit just fine.

The FIM recently had a clean out at the top. The outgoing regime were a bunch of useless, crooked, good-for-nothings. The new regime appear to be good, honest people from what I hear. However I imagine it’ll take months to clean up the shit that they inherited from the Mob.

Still should have dealt with Tickle’s case by now though.
Exactly, I was reading through this thread and was thinking that nobody has it right..I'm thinking that because of how badly this was mishandled by the FIM that they may move as quickly as they can...
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3/26/2019 2:44pm
Robgvx wrote:
Seriously, how hard is it for people to understand that this is nothing to do with WADA? WADA decide what drugs are not permitted in sport...
Seriously, how hard is it for people to understand that this is nothing to do with WADA?

WADA decide what drugs are not permitted in sport.

WADA did the testing and posted the results. Quickly.

It’s the FIM who decide on the penalty (but based around WADA guidelines. If the penalty is too lenient WADA can challenge it in the Court of Arbitration in Sport).

It’s the FIM who have been ridiculously slow in awarding the penalty. WADA did their bit just fine.

The FIM recently had a clean out at the top. The outgoing regime were a bunch of useless, crooked, good-for-nothings. The new regime appear to be good, honest people from what I hear. However I imagine it’ll take months to clean up the shit that they inherited from the Mob.

Still should have dealt with Tickle’s case by now though.
Wada/Usada doesn't do the testing either.
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3/26/2019 2:58pm
slowgti wrote:
What a joke. How do you explain this to a 'casual viewer'?
peelout wrote:
Ralph has a hard enough time remembering all the colors of the rainbow, i'd love to hear him explain something as convoluted as what is going...
Ralph has a hard enough time remembering all the colors of the rainbow, i'd love to hear him explain something as convoluted as what is going on with Tickle/WADA
Ralph can shoot over to Blair to explain the rainbow Silly
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3/26/2019 3:09pm
It's not the fact he took something, it's the fact he hasn't had his day in court yet. We can do better.
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Checked in with him today. He said there's some motion, and he's hoping to have it sorted in a couple weeks.
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3/26/2019 10:43pm
slowgti wrote:
What a joke. How do you explain this to a 'casual viewer'?
peelout wrote:
Ralph has a hard enough time remembering all the colors of the rainbow, i'd love to hear him explain something as convoluted as what is going...
Ralph has a hard enough time remembering all the colors of the rainbow, i'd love to hear him explain something as convoluted as what is going on with Tickle/WADA
Fans should not hear about racers cheating.
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Robgvx wrote:
Seriously, how hard is it for people to understand that this is nothing to do with WADA? WADA decide what drugs are not permitted in sport...
Seriously, how hard is it for people to understand that this is nothing to do with WADA?

WADA decide what drugs are not permitted in sport.

WADA did the testing and posted the results. Quickly.

It’s the FIM who decide on the penalty (but based around WADA guidelines. If the penalty is too lenient WADA can challenge it in the Court of Arbitration in Sport).

It’s the FIM who have been ridiculously slow in awarding the penalty. WADA did their bit just fine.

The FIM recently had a clean out at the top. The outgoing regime were a bunch of useless, crooked, good-for-nothings. The new regime appear to be good, honest people from what I hear. However I imagine it’ll take months to clean up the shit that they inherited from the Mob.

Still should have dealt with Tickle’s case by now though.
Middleside wrote:
Wada/Usada doesn't do the testing either.
That’s true.
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Fans should not hear about racers cheating.
Broc is clean in my books. The testing and labs is another beast and at the end of the day not everyone is same and has same levels of substances in blood. So keep your templates, spreadsheets and stuff.

In the long run WADA destroys more innocent lives than the ammount of cheater it catches.

I am against cheating in sports but we got to a point where aderall seems like a big deal in motorsports! hell even THC is advantageous? Really? How... Only place where aderall could give advantage is gaming and even there everyone does it already. Ridiculous.
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3/27/2019 6:39am
RexEasely wrote:
Fans should not hear about racers cheating.
SojCZE wrote:
Broc is clean in my books. The testing and labs is another beast and at the end of the day not everyone is same and has...
Broc is clean in my books. The testing and labs is another beast and at the end of the day not everyone is same and has same levels of substances in blood. So keep your templates, spreadsheets and stuff.

In the long run WADA destroys more innocent lives than the ammount of cheater it catches.

I am against cheating in sports but we got to a point where aderall seems like a big deal in motorsports! hell even THC is advantageous? Really? How... Only place where aderall could give advantage is gaming and even there everyone does it already. Ridiculous.
Have you emailed or contacted wada or fim? What did they say?
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RexEasely wrote:
Fans should not hear about racers cheating.
SojCZE wrote:
Broc is clean in my books. The testing and labs is another beast and at the end of the day not everyone is same and has...
Broc is clean in my books. The testing and labs is another beast and at the end of the day not everyone is same and has same levels of substances in blood. So keep your templates, spreadsheets and stuff.

In the long run WADA destroys more innocent lives than the ammount of cheater it catches.

I am against cheating in sports but we got to a point where aderall seems like a big deal in motorsports! hell even THC is advantageous? Really? How... Only place where aderall could give advantage is gaming and even there everyone does it already. Ridiculous.
Isn’t everyone WADA catch innocent?
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3/27/2019 8:06am
RexEasely wrote:
Fans should not hear about racers cheating.
SojCZE wrote:
Broc is clean in my books. The testing and labs is another beast and at the end of the day not everyone is same and has...
Broc is clean in my books. The testing and labs is another beast and at the end of the day not everyone is same and has same levels of substances in blood. So keep your templates, spreadsheets and stuff.

In the long run WADA destroys more innocent lives than the ammount of cheater it catches.

I am against cheating in sports but we got to a point where aderall seems like a big deal in motorsports! hell even THC is advantageous? Really? How... Only place where aderall could give advantage is gaming and even there everyone does it already. Ridiculous.
Robgvx wrote:
Isn’t everyone WADA catch innocent?
Exactly. Lol. Poor victim.mentality.
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3/27/2019 9:52am Edited Date/Time 3/27/2019 9:56am
RexEasely wrote:
Fans should not hear about racers cheating.
SojCZE wrote:
Broc is clean in my books. The testing and labs is another beast and at the end of the day not everyone is same and has...
Broc is clean in my books. The testing and labs is another beast and at the end of the day not everyone is same and has same levels of substances in blood. So keep your templates, spreadsheets and stuff.

In the long run WADA destroys more innocent lives than the ammount of cheater it catches.

I am against cheating in sports but we got to a point where aderall seems like a big deal in motorsports! hell even THC is advantageous? Really? How... Only place where aderall could give advantage is gaming and even there everyone does it already. Ridiculous.
SojCZE wrote:

Broc is clean in my books. The testing and labs is another beast and at the end of the day not everyone is same and has same levels of substances in blood.
Only place where aderall could give advantage is gaming


Are you nuts? Do your grandparents have that stuff in their system? What about my parents? Or the cashier at the grocery?

Where do people come up with this idiotic drivel? And at least try to spell it right.

Speed/Amphetamine was around before your parents were born.
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I heard he was prepping for the outdoors on a 250 KTM, supposed to be a done deal?
Jeez, I hope so. It'd be nice to see him racing again, mixing it up w/ everyone. Plus...racing outdoors on a 250f; good way to get his feet wet before 2020 (if he is cleared to race).

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