Who's permanent # has been the most permanent ?

sumdood wrote:

Wonder what the logistics of seeing numbers 8 and 9 on the track anytime soon are. Has to be "A past champion that's actively racing". But...

Wonder what the logistics of seeing numbers 8 and 9 on the track anytime soon are. Has to be "A past champion that's actively racing". But don't all the guys in the hunt already have a permanent number they're associated with ? Who's in position to win a championship that would want to switch their number to 8 or 9 ?

reynardfan1 wrote:

My vote is #8...it hasn’t been used since Langston I don’t think...so technically he’s been #8 for a while

cody331 wrote:

If we're taking the route that 199 would have to be the longest wouldn't it? Pastrana took it in 01 when the number system originated and...

If we're taking the route that 199 would have to be the longest wouldn't it? Pastrana took it in 01 when the number system originated and I don't think it's been used after him. The shortest would most likely be Justin Cooper or maybe another who made their debut last year

crusty_xx wrote:

#22
Why is there even a discussion?

crusty_xx wrote:

#22
Why is there even a discussion?

reynardfan1 wrote:

My vote is #8...it hasn’t been used since Langston I don’t think...so technically he’s been #8 for a while

cody331 wrote:

If we're taking the route that 199 would have to be the longest wouldn't it? Pastrana took it in 01 when the number system originated and...

If we're taking the route that 199 would have to be the longest wouldn't it? Pastrana took it in 01 when the number system originated and I don't think it's been used after him. The shortest would most likely be Justin Cooper or maybe another who made their debut last year

aharper33 wrote:

I believe Kyle Partridge ran #199 in 2015. I could be wrong but isn't there someone using it again this year?

sumdood wrote:

Wonder what the logistics of seeing numbers 8 and 9 on the track anytime soon are. Has to be "A past champion that's actively racing". But...

Wonder what the logistics of seeing numbers 8 and 9 on the track anytime soon are. Has to be "A past champion that's actively racing". But don't all the guys in the hunt already have a permanent number they're associated with ? Who's in position to win a championship that would want to switch their number to 8 or 9 ?

RichieW13 wrote:

Roczen picked career number 94, but he could have picked a single-digit number. I don't know if he's allowed to "change his mind" now, or he...

Roczen picked career number 94, but he could have picked a single-digit number. I don't know if he's allowed to "change his mind" now, or he has to make the decision the year after a championship.

So, riders who seem like a reasonable possibility to win 450 SX, 450 MX or 250 MX this year and don't already have a single-digit career number:

Austin Forkner
Adam Cianciarulo
Marvin Musquin
Justin Cooper
Chase Sexton
Alex Martin
Dylan Ferrandis
Shane McElrath
Colt Nichols

In fact, with Jeremy Martin out, we are guaranteed having a new 250 MX champion who will be able to pick a single-digit.

Then there are guys like Wilson, Barcia or Savatgy who might be able to win 450 outdoors if the stars aligned.

RandyS wrote:

Dungey went from career number 10 to 5. I think 5 might have still been in Laroccos name the year he chose 10.

cbarber wrote:

from 2001 ama press release This is how the system works: Number 1 is reserved for the current national champion in each series; numbers 2 through...

from 2001 ama press release


This is how the system works: Number 1 is reserved for the current national

champion in each series; numbers 2 through 9 are reserved for past national

champions in active competition. Riders who completed the 1999 season ranked in

the top 10 chose any available national number, which they keep until they

withdraw from competition, or fail to earn a national point.

In 2000, riders who earned career numbers were: Jeremy McGrath, 2; Jeff

Emig, 3; Ricky Carmichael, 4; Mike LaRocco, 5; Steve Lamson, 6; Greg Albertyn,

7; Larry Ward, 10; Ezra Lusk, 11; Jimmy Button, 12; Kevin Windham, 14; Timmy

Ferry, 15; John Dowd, 16; Robbie Reynard, 17; Doug Henry, 19, and Damon Huffman,

20.

Riders carrying career numbers for the first time in 2001 are: Sebastien

Tortelli, 13; Brock Sellards, 18; Stephane Roncada, 21; Travis Pastrana, 199;

and David Vuillemin, 934.

The rest of the field are assigned available numbers corresponding to their

earned national ranking. Riders placing in the top 100 will be assigned

available two-digit numbers until those numbers are depleted.



Here is the complete list of 2001 AMA National Motocross/Supercross

Numbers:

Number Rider, hometown
2 (#1 SX) Jeremy McGrath, Menifee, CA
3 Jeff Emig, Menifee, CA
4 (#1 250MX) Ricky Carmichael, Havana, FL
5 Mike LaRocco, South Bend, IN
6 Steve Lamson, Murrieta, CA
7 Greg Albertyn, South Africa
10 Larry Ward, Florence, SC
11 Ezra Lusk, Bainbridge, GA
12 Jimmy Button, Lake Elsinore, CA
13 Sebastien Tortelli, France
14 Kevin Windham, Ethel, LA
15 Timmy Ferry, Largo, FL
16 John Dowd, Chicopee, MA
17 Robbie Reynard, Oklahoma City, OK
18 Brock Sellards, New Phila, OH
19 Doug Henry, Oxford, CT
20 Damon Huffman, Acton, CA
21 Stephane Roncada, France
22 Tallon Vohland, Citrus Hgts, CA
23 Nicholas Wey, Dewitt, MI
24 Kyle Lewis, Las Vegas, NV
25 Ernesto Fonseca, Costa Rica
26 Heath Voss, Prior Lake, MN
27 Casey Johnson, Lake Elsinore, CA
28 Nathan Ramsey, Lake Elsinore, CA
29 Danny Smith, Middleton, ID
30 Greg Schnell, Rancho Cucamonga, CA
31 Branden Jesseman, Fombell, PA
32 Rodrig Thain, France
33 Shayne King, New Zealand
34 Paul Currie, Wesley Chapel, FL
35 Kelly D Smith, Ludington, MI
36 Jason Thomas, Melrose, FL
37 James Povolny Jr, Mendota Hgts, MN
38 Justin Buckelew, Albuquerque, NM
39 Michael Craig, El Cajon, CA
40 Travis Preston, Hesperia, CA
41 Jean Sebastien Roy, Canada, PQ
42 Ivan Tedesco, Albuquerque, NM
43 Michael Brandes, Lake Elsinore, CA
44 Damien Plotts, Millmont, PA
45 Ryan Terlecki, Silverton, OR
46 David Pingree, Menifee, CA
47 Tyler Evans, Salinas, CA
48 Jason McCormick, Vancouver, WA
49 Isaiah Johnson, Albuquerque, NM
50 Billy Payne, Simi Valley, CA
51 Christopher Gosselaar, Juniper Hills, CA
52 Keith R Johnson, Albuquerque, NM
53 Grayson Goodman, Dallas, TX
54 Barry Carsten, Bayville, NJ
55 Robbie Horton, Blountville, TN
56 Chris Wheeler, Piqua, OH
57 Casey Lytle, Castaic, CA
58 Robbie Skaggs, Lawrence, KS
59 Matt Walker, McRae, GA
60 Doug Dubach, Tustin, CA
61 Travis Elliott, Alvin, TX
62 Scott Carter, Manchester, CT
63 Pedro Gonzalez, Mexico
64 Joseph Oehlhof, Wapakoneta, OH
65 David Kratz, Center Valley, PA
66 Kevin Crine, Mechanicsville, MD
67 Michael Treadwell, Enfield, CT
68 Dustin Nelson, El Cajon, CA
69 Tom Welch, Charlotte Hall, MD
70 Phil Lawrence, Menifee, CA
71 Bruce Stratton, Clifton Springs, NY
72 Wally Silva, Old Orchard Bch, ME
73 Keith Johnson, Pembroke, MA
74 Doug Dehaan, Canada, ON
75 Ted Campbell, Apache Junction
76 Jeff Hedden, Valley Center, KS
77 Jim Neese, Greensboro, NC
78 Tony Lorusso, East Hartford, PA
79 Andrew Short, Colorado Spgs, CO
80 Paul Carpenter, Ithaca, NY
81 Matt Shue, Kennesaw, GA
82 Randy Valade, Howell, MI
83 Marco Dube, Canada QU
84 Brian Stone, Kansas City, MO
85 Steve Andrich, Lancaster, OH
86 Aaron Dieter, Dansville, NY
87 Anthony Amaradio, Temecula, CA
88 Lance Smail, Federal Way, WA
89 Ben Riddle, Campbellsville, KY
90 Ty Wallace, Phoenixville, PA
91 Ryan Clark, Albuquerque, NM
92 Chase Reed, Long Grove, OK
93 Clark Stiles, Tanner, AL
94 Jimmy Wilson, Willis, MI
95 Billy Binckley, Woodinville, WA
96 Mike Katin, East Sparta, OH
97 Todd Downs, Corpus Christi, TX
98 Thomas Hofmaster, Pearl City, IL
99 Joshua Sweat, Weirton, WV
199 (#1 125MX) Travis Pastrana, Annapolis, MD
934 David Vuillemin, France

BS12 wrote:

#199?

braaaaaaaapp wrote:

I’m guessing Alessi really didn’t “keep” his 800 since he scored no AMA points last year. When he came back (again I’m guessing. He may have...

I’m guessing Alessi really didn’t “keep” his 800 since he scored no AMA points last year. When he came back (again I’m guessing. He may have asked to keep it) I’d bet if someone else took 800 this year he would have had to taken something else.

Sully wrote:

Don't quote me on this, because I'm not 100% sure, but I think the AMA said no more 3 digit permanent numbers a while back, but...

Don't quote me on this, because I'm not 100% sure, but I think the AMA said no more 3 digit permanent numbers a while back, but Mike was grandfathered in for one reason or another.

Crush wrote:

RC was 4 since 1999 till 07. Ran number 1 at Glen Helen in 2004 I think? And perhaps a different number for the MXdN liverly...

RC was 4 since 1999 till 07. Ran number 1 at Glen Helen in 2004 I think? And perhaps a different number for the MXdN liverly at Glen Helen in 06?

Reed has been since 03 with 22, but ran number 1 in 2009.

Alessi has run 800 since his amateurs, and he debuted pro in 04 right, not sure it's ever been interrupted so it's probably that.

kevin204 wrote:

Reed also ran #1 during the 2010 nationals.

redbeard104 wrote:

I personally (not that my opinion stands for anything) like the permanent number system. Every year the 250s are changing numbers and its confusing especially for...

I personally (not that my opinion stands for anything) like the permanent number system.

Every year the 250s are changing numbers and its confusing especially for the big teams (TLD, PC, Geico, Star) because they are all kitted out the same.

sumdood wrote:

Wonder what the logistics of seeing numbers 8 and 9 on the track anytime soon are. Has to be "A past champion that's actively racing". But...

Wonder what the logistics of seeing numbers 8 and 9 on the track anytime soon are. Has to be "A past champion that's actively racing". But don't all the guys in the hunt already have a permanent number they're associated with ? Who's in position to win a championship that would want to switch their number to 8 or 9 ?

RichieW13 wrote:

Roczen picked career number 94, but he could have picked a single-digit number. I don't know if he's allowed to "change his mind" now, or he...

Roczen picked career number 94, but he could have picked a single-digit number. I don't know if he's allowed to "change his mind" now, or he has to make the decision the year after a championship.

So, riders who seem like a reasonable possibility to win 450 SX, 450 MX or 250 MX this year and don't already have a single-digit career number:

Austin Forkner
Adam Cianciarulo
Marvin Musquin
Justin Cooper
Chase Sexton
Alex Martin
Dylan Ferrandis
Shane McElrath
Colt Nichols

In fact, with Jeremy Martin out, we are guaranteed having a new 250 MX champion who will be able to pick a single-digit.

Then there are guys like Wilson, Barcia or Savatgy who might be able to win 450 outdoors if the stars aligned.

cody331 wrote:

Didn't Stewart change from 259 to 7 after a year when he didn't win the championship?

MOgle80 wrote:

Did Allessi start with #80 at the race beginning to start Believe the Hype at Spring Creek Minnesota. then added a zero