How would today's top riders do on an older model bike?

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S.A. Weave 2/6/2019 6:08pm
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Squirrelings wrote:
Sorry for providing my opinion. I don’t see how riding newer dirt bikes make somebody cool but thanks buddy. Once my bike has around 75 hours...
Sorry for providing my opinion. I don’t see how riding newer dirt bikes make somebody cool but thanks buddy. Once my bike has around 75 hours, I replace it. Guess that makes me cool for wanting to ride a safe, new, bike. The guys who buy a new bike or two every year must be really cool. If you knew what kind of sacrifices I make to ride a newer bike, you probably wouldn't be such an ass. Pound sand.
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I would actually like to know what sacrifices you have to make to buy a brand new motorcycle every 75 hours
He's sure doing something right if he gets a new bike every 3 days roughly.
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Squirrelings wrote:
Sorry for providing my opinion. I don’t see how riding newer dirt bikes make somebody cool but thanks buddy. Once my bike has around 75 hours...
Sorry for providing my opinion. I don’t see how riding newer dirt bikes make somebody cool but thanks buddy. Once my bike has around 75 hours, I replace it. Guess that makes me cool for wanting to ride a safe, new, bike. The guys who buy a new bike or two every year must be really cool. If you knew what kind of sacrifices I make to ride a newer bike, you probably wouldn't be such an ass. Pound sand.
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I would actually like to know what sacrifices you have to make to buy a brand new motorcycle every 75 hours
mxb2 wrote:
Who cares, its his money. Some people like new stuff. Some dont. , Big deal.
Exactly. Dude makes the money and prob sacrifices driving a fancy ass truck so he can get a new bike every year or two like I used to do. More power to him. My bikes were always worth more than my piece of shit truck back when I was single. I could only afford one or the other. Priorities people Laughing
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110% rider, -10% bike
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I think Kenny would do alright...

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HD1200 2/6/2019 9:35pm
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Honestly, I think technique, especially in corners on 2t bikes would be where you'd see the most difference.
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Muscle-Milk-KTM 2/7/2019 1:11am
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Just read through this thread & people are shitting on a guy because he gets a new bike every couple of years. Fair play to him.
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blockhead17 wrote:
I remember hearing chad say the 10 or 11 Honda he had was the best bike he had ever ridden still until this day. I often...
I remember hearing chad say the 10 or 11 Honda he had was the best bike he had ever ridden still until this day.
I often wondered how he would do on it if he was riding it again
Yeah Reed has said that his 2011 Honda would still be competitive.
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GrapeApe wrote:
In 1975, a top 5 racer would lap the field on a 1985 bike. In 2009, a top 5 racer on a 2019 bike would be...
In 1975, a top 5 racer would lap the field on a 1985 bike.

In 2009, a top 5 racer on a 2019 bike would be pretty close to the same.

We are reaching the end of the development cycle for internal combustion moto bikes.

I agree. I also think the r&d departments have been almost entirely moved to the archives as mx doesn't make "much" money vs. the manufacturing equipment investments to be made to make significant "improvements".

I put speech notes at "improvements" because I don't think the bike should go any faster. I would be ok to see a rule of maximum 125cc and 70 kilo minimum 90 kilos max (or 150cc 4 stroke), to replace mx1, and 85cc to replace mx2 (or 100cc 4 stroke). I know it is crazy and many people would not agree, but the tracks would then be modified to these bikes, to make slower tracks, slightly smaller jumps, and so less big injuries.

Anyway, to answer to the OP, I would say 28 years ! Wink



Squirrelings 2/7/2019 5:37am
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Flip109 wrote:
Exactly. Dude makes the money and prob sacrifices driving a fancy ass truck so he can get a new bike every year or two like I...
Exactly. Dude makes the money and prob sacrifices driving a fancy ass truck so he can get a new bike every year or two like I used to do. More power to him. My bikes were always worth more than my piece of shit truck back when I was single. I could only afford one or the other. Priorities people Laughing
Exactly. My newest vehicle is an ‘09. It’s my moto van. My dad always bought me new bikes every couple of years and I’ve tried to do the same for the past 15 years or so of having to buy them myself. In no way was I trying to brag. I don’t have fancy clothes and new shoes all the time. No nice cars. No nice bicycles. No nice anything really other than my moto stuff which really isn’t even that nice compared to a lot of people’s bikes. Pretty much always close to stock.
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Squirrelings 2/7/2019 5:40am
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Laughing Laughing Laughing its you again
Hey troll!! Thanks for taking a moment from your anti-America agenda to stop by.
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RichardLoots 2/7/2019 6:03am
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Laughing Laughing Laughing its you again
Squirrelings wrote:
Hey troll!! Thanks for taking a moment from your anti-America agenda to stop by.
busy day he Laughing Laughing youre getting more popular by the week

keep em going , again good fun
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mx317 2/7/2019 6:30am
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To answer the OP's question, there are older bikes that if it suited the rider well (ex. Reed on the 11 Honda), they would go as fast. There are also some that would not. We all may remember how much faster RV went when he got on that 2012 KXF450 mid way through the summer compared to the 2011 he was riding. Going back further Grant Langston picked up a lot of speed when he switched to the 2008 YZ450 from the 2007 (I think I have my years right) mid-year also.
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HD1200 wrote:
Well to me a 2010 isn't an older bike, yes it's a few years old but not much different. Go at least as early as 2005...
Well to me a 2010 isn't an older bike, yes it's a few years old but not much different. Go at least as early as 2005 if not 2000.
midwestmoto wrote:
I agree. I have a 2010 and I dont see it as an old bike. I only used the year 2010 because on Vital, I sometimes...
I agree. I have a 2010 and I dont see it as an old bike. I only used the year 2010 because on Vital, I sometimes see people referring to 2010s as older bikes.

Its bizarre to me that, at least in my district, a 2010 can be raced in the vintage class since the rule is any bike that is 8 years or older
Squirrelings wrote:
Anything more than a few years old is what I consider an older bike. Maybe because I’ve never had bikes more than a few years old.
You technically never answered the OPs question, how would a top rider do...

Nobody asked how often you buy a new bike.

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RichardLoots wrote:
Laughing Laughing Laughing its you again
Squirrelings wrote:
Hey troll!! Thanks for taking a moment from your anti-America agenda to stop by.
RichardLoots wrote:
busy day he Laughing Laughing youre getting more popular by the week

keep em going , again good fun
I knew this moment was coming when he joined way back in 2017. He's a little too good for this place I think.
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RichardLoots 2/7/2019 6:50am
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I knew this moment was coming when he joined way back in 2017. He's a little too good for this place I think.
lol .. its not him , he is always right .... Wink just blame the others
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disbanded wrote:
I knew this moment was coming when he joined way back in 2017. He's a little too good for this place I think.
RichardLoots wrote:
lol .. its not him , he is always right .... Wink just blame the others
That's funny because I always thought, there's a guy that thinks he knows everything and is always right!

Looks like I'm not the only one that noticed...
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PRM31 2/7/2019 7:01am
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GrapeApe wrote:
In 1975, a top 5 racer would lap the field on a 1985 bike. In 2009, a top 5 racer on a 2019 bike would be...
In 1975, a top 5 racer would lap the field on a 1985 bike.

In 2009, a top 5 racer on a 2019 bike would be pretty close to the same.

We are reaching the end of the development cycle for internal combustion moto bikes.
Spot on.

The bikes changed more from 1980 to 1982 than they seem to have from say 2000 to today.
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4T vs 4T:
RC would still be up there on the 2007 RMZ.
Hell, he would be up there with the big dogs if you gave him a 1971 moped to race.
Bubba would be right there with him on 2007 KX450.

Jerry Robin at Loretta's was a great example, to how little the equipment means in MX, it is mostly the rider.

Now if we go back to smokers vs new thumpers and (as OP stated) top pro's on them, not a chance.
Bubba who was the fastest ever on a 125 had to try VERY hard to keep up with a 250f in the very early stages of 4t development.
2019 250F's are much better then 2004 250F's, 125's are pretty much what they were 15 years ago.
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Squirrelings 2/7/2019 7:35am
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That's funny because I always thought, there's a guy that thinks he knows everything and is always right! Looks like I'm not the only one that...
That's funny because I always thought, there's a guy that thinks he knows everything and is always right!

Looks like I'm not the only one that noticed...
Get a room guys. I don’t have to know much to know more than you. Couple of the biggest d-bags on the forum calling me a know it all. Fucking gold.

You literally came into the thread with an asshole comment for no reason then continued to talk shit but I’m the one with a problem? Fuck off.
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RichardLoots 2/7/2019 8:03am
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disbanded wrote:
That's funny because I always thought, there's a guy that thinks he knows everything and is always right! Looks like I'm not the only one that...
That's funny because I always thought, there's a guy that thinks he knows everything and is always right!

Looks like I'm not the only one that noticed...
What s the name given to a person who thinks he knows everything and others are mere useless and thinks they are fool?

my english isnt that good but someone on here must know Wink
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Squirrelings 2/7/2019 8:05am
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RichardLoots wrote:
What s the name given to a person who thinks he knows everything and others are mere useless and thinks they are fool? my english isnt...
What s the name given to a person who thinks he knows everything and others are mere useless and thinks they are fool?

my english isnt that good but someone on here must know Wink
RichardLoots.
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RichardLoots wrote:
What s the name given to a person who thinks he knows everything and others are mere useless and thinks they are fool? my english isnt...
What s the name given to a person who thinks he knows everything and others are mere useless and thinks they are fool?

my english isnt that good but someone on here must know Wink
Squirrelings wrote:
RichardLoots.
GOLD!
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RichardLoots 2/7/2019 8:54am
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RichardLoots wrote:
What s the name given to a person who thinks he knows everything and others are mere useless and thinks they are fool? my english isnt...
What s the name given to a person who thinks he knows everything and others are mere useless and thinks they are fool?

my english isnt that good but someone on here must know Wink
Squirrelings wrote:
RichardLoots.
Laughing Laughing smartass ... i quess that was youre only way out , nice try and good backup from your thumbdown buddy MX haha ..awesome ...good fun
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theprizefighter 2/7/2019 12:13pm
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disbanded wrote:
That's funny because I always thought, there's a guy that thinks he knows everything and is always right! Looks like I'm not the only one that...
That's funny because I always thought, there's a guy that thinks he knows everything and is always right!

Looks like I'm not the only one that noticed...
Squirrelings wrote:
Get a room guys. I don’t have to know much to know more than you. Couple of the biggest d-bags on the forum calling me a...
Get a room guys. I don’t have to know much to know more than you. Couple of the biggest d-bags on the forum calling me a know it all. Fucking gold.

You literally came into the thread with an asshole comment for no reason then continued to talk shit but I’m the one with a problem? Fuck off.
Maybe you’re coming off wrong because you tell people to fuck off. Maybe you weren’t bragging but it came across that way when I read it.
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Trudare69 2/7/2019 12:25pm
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1down5up wrote:
Well,until RedBull presents a present day rider motocross classic event,we will never know.
I'd pay to watch that.....

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