Monster Energy Supercross 2

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2/6/2019 8:42am
TheClaw316 wrote:
I haven't played yet because I am a tightwad and didn't want to pay the Special Edition, and I'm glad I didn't. It looks like essentially...
I haven't played yet because I am a tightwad and didn't want to pay the Special Edition, and I'm glad I didn't. It looks like essentially a copy and paste of MES1. They have added a very little amount of new customization. New gear comes out all of the time, and they still have essentially the same kits as MES1. Milestone couldn't even add new fonts to jersey name/number. Maybe add another font to bike numbers as well. There is a difference in fonts between the 2's in Reeds number and Webbs. They already have them on the factory bikes, why not give the player the option? Even the crappy sponsorship's are the same. How can they not add more detail to the sponsorship? How sweet would it be to be able to sign with multiple sponsors, i.e. Monster, AStars, Fox, etc. Where you have to wear their gear, or use their parts. The best sponsors have the bigger visual representation on your gear/bike. How hard would that be????

Also, how can we not sign to a factory team? Or start your own factory team? They have done this in the past. There is so much that is left to be desired as far as career mode goes.

The game play itself wasn't really too much of an issue for me in MES1, but I am anxious to see what is new with that. Looks like the CPU is going to be more difficult. With all of that being said, there should have been more customization.
If you haven't played yet, your opinions mean nothing.

For those that have... did you guys notice the deformation?! If you make a line, like at Indy in the first turn.. take that line every lap, a DEEP rut will form and you can roll through the turn much faster. You have to sort of make your own lines. So, while the deformation of ruts may not affect the riding negatively with a crash, it does make you go faster through the turns, especially the flat corners on softer tracks like Indy and Minneapolis. I think it's cool.

Also, if you go to a softer track like Indy and take the same line in the rhythm section, and you case it a few times, the jump will sort of ovalize and flatten out on the peak. This forces you to change your line and downside the rhythms perfectly so the lap times stay fast. It's pretty crazy how realistic it really is when dissecting it.

Everyone, do a 20 min race with advanced physics at Indy, Minnesota, or any of the softer terrains, you'll see what I mean. Have patience, and dont judge the game by YouTube kids.
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2/6/2019 8:47am
100% cant judge without playing. Minus the lack of factory teams in career mode and the poor selection of gear and bike graphics the game is better then the first one.
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2/6/2019 8:57am
I am headed to Glamis this game can wait till next week.
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2/6/2019 9:14am
100% cant judge without playing. Minus the lack of factory teams in career mode and the poor selection of gear and bike graphics the game is...
100% cant judge without playing. Minus the lack of factory teams in career mode and the poor selection of gear and bike graphics the game is better then the first one.
Factory teams, gear, and sponsorship MAKE the career an actual career. Could be more of a "business" aspect to the career mode.
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2/6/2019 10:10am
I totally agree with Flatout.

I come from the MCM2 days, played a ton of MES1 last year and raced a bunch of you guys online.....this year's game MES2 is by far a better overall game. Aside from the beautiful graphics, the gameplay is vastly improved.

SPODE - you will especially appreciate this game. I remember your old replica SX tracks from MCM2 forced you to slow down and really focus on timing instead of just pinning it everywhere. This game is just like that. You have to slow down to go faster which I'm sure is frustrating for some who will scream "worst game ever!" but for those like me it's exactly what we've been asking for. You really have to use the brakes in the corners and shift your body weight to not only make the turn but to carry enough speed to set you up for the next rhythm. Casing the big triple has thrown me off the bike 50% of the time and not properly executing a rhythm section will seriously screw up your lap time.

AND THE WHOOPS!!!! Soooooo much better!!! The whoops at A1 right off the bat are very realistic looking & require skill rather than just leaning back and going WFO like before. I've had numerous times where I entered the whoops with too much speed and it halfway through I would skip 1 and boom...either I crash or have to jump my way out. Also - the whoops are different at each track...I think it was Houston where I could go much faster through them but at A1 and Glendale I really had to set myself up for them.

Keep in mind - right away I started the game with advanced physics, joint brakes OFF, no lean assist, no riding aid other than auto-transmission so I could focus more on the game aspects and not just trying to burn hot laps.

Also - deformation is REAL!!! Run a 20 min main and the track looks & rides totally different in the end. The whoops get torn up, the turns and jumps have ruts, the jump take-offs get uneven, and line choice becomes a new challenge. If you run a quick 5 or 10 minute race, you won't notice near as much deformation as a 15 or 20 minute main. I played for about 4 hours last night and only went through the first 4 West coast tracks but I can tell you this is a major improvement in gameplay from last year. I can't wait to get the online battles going like last year and see how well it performs online.
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2/6/2019 10:32am Edited Date/Time 2/6/2019 12:45pm
They even included Limegate.

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Donovan759
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2/6/2019 11:44am
Read through the past 2 pages and didn't see this mentioned.

My main beef with MES 1 is that the clutch is useless. Is the clutch any better in MES 2?
gt757
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2/6/2019 11:57am
Donovan759 wrote:
Read through the past 2 pages and didn't see this mentioned. My main beef with MES 1 is that the clutch is useless. Is the clutch...
Read through the past 2 pages and didn't see this mentioned.

My main beef with MES 1 is that the clutch is useless. Is the clutch any better in MES 2?
Not at all, maybe better off the start but that's about it
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2/6/2019 12:13pm Edited Date/Time 2/6/2019 12:16pm
TheClaw316 wrote:
I haven't played yet because I am a tightwad and didn't want to pay the Special Edition, and I'm glad I didn't. It looks like essentially...
I haven't played yet because I am a tightwad and didn't want to pay the Special Edition, and I'm glad I didn't. It looks like essentially a copy and paste of MES1. They have added a very little amount of new customization. New gear comes out all of the time, and they still have essentially the same kits as MES1. Milestone couldn't even add new fonts to jersey name/number. Maybe add another font to bike numbers as well. There is a difference in fonts between the 2's in Reeds number and Webbs. They already have them on the factory bikes, why not give the player the option? Even the crappy sponsorship's are the same. How can they not add more detail to the sponsorship? How sweet would it be to be able to sign with multiple sponsors, i.e. Monster, AStars, Fox, etc. Where you have to wear their gear, or use their parts. The best sponsors have the bigger visual representation on your gear/bike. How hard would that be????

Also, how can we not sign to a factory team? Or start your own factory team? They have done this in the past. There is so much that is left to be desired as far as career mode goes.

The game play itself wasn't really too much of an issue for me in MES1, but I am anxious to see what is new with that. Looks like the CPU is going to be more difficult. With all of that being said, there should have been more customization.
You’re high. Hasn’t even played the game but says it’s a copy and paste of the first one. Honestly I haven’t even looked at the gear in the game yet, but i don’t really care to dress up my player either, gear is the least of my worries when judging a game. Btw, there is new fonts for Numbers/jerseys names.

The clutch is better in sx2 but still doesn’t do a whole lot. But IMO it has more of a noticeable impact than the previous sx.
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2/6/2019 12:25pm
Donovan759 wrote:
Read through the past 2 pages and didn't see this mentioned. My main beef with MES 1 is that the clutch is useless. Is the clutch...
Read through the past 2 pages and didn't see this mentioned.

My main beef with MES 1 is that the clutch is useless. Is the clutch any better in MES 2?
gt757 wrote:
Not at all, maybe better off the start but that's about it
That's extremely disappointing... And I don't understand how more people aren't bothered by that. I don't understand when they stopped having a decent clutch on their games. But that kills it for me.

Nothing worse than dropping the clutch out of a corner and losing speed...
2/6/2019 12:30pm
Donovan759 wrote:
Read through the past 2 pages and didn't see this mentioned. My main beef with MES 1 is that the clutch is useless. Is the clutch...
Read through the past 2 pages and didn't see this mentioned.

My main beef with MES 1 is that the clutch is useless. Is the clutch any better in MES 2?
gt757 wrote:
Not at all, maybe better off the start but that's about it
Donovan759 wrote:
That's extremely disappointing... And I don't understand how more people aren't bothered by that. I don't understand when they stopped having a decent clutch on their...
That's extremely disappointing... And I don't understand how more people aren't bothered by that. I don't understand when they stopped having a decent clutch on their games. But that kills it for me.

Nothing worse than dropping the clutch out of a corner and losing speed...
I'd imagine your feelings on the clutch not doing anything is equivalent to my feelings on how much I hate how the clutch works on All Out, lol. It would be nice to have it help out a little bit. All Out clutch to me is waaayyyy too much!
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2/6/2019 12:40pm
Donovan759 wrote:
Read through the past 2 pages and didn't see this mentioned. My main beef with MES 1 is that the clutch is useless. Is the clutch...
Read through the past 2 pages and didn't see this mentioned.

My main beef with MES 1 is that the clutch is useless. Is the clutch any better in MES 2?
gt757 wrote:
Not at all, maybe better off the start but that's about it
It is better, but not by a lot. The most noticeable thing is that it doesn’t stop all forward momentum like it did previously.
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2/6/2019 1:05pm
mattyhamz2 wrote:
I'd imagine your feelings on the clutch not doing anything is equivalent to my feelings on how much I hate how the clutch works on All...
I'd imagine your feelings on the clutch not doing anything is equivalent to my feelings on how much I hate how the clutch works on All Out, lol. It would be nice to have it help out a little bit. All Out clutch to me is waaayyyy too much!
Right. I feel like they got it just right in MXGP 2. I'm not a fan of the clutch in All Out either. It either feels like rocket boosters or like a disengaging a clutch in sand.

Gotta say, (sorry to go off topic) I started free riding on All Out w/ my brother on weekends and riding around to find sick hits... I've never had more fun playing a game in my life. lol Some of the transfers and hits you can find are so cool.
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2/6/2019 1:12pm
mattyhamz2 wrote:
I'd imagine your feelings on the clutch not doing anything is equivalent to my feelings on how much I hate how the clutch works on All...
I'd imagine your feelings on the clutch not doing anything is equivalent to my feelings on how much I hate how the clutch works on All Out, lol. It would be nice to have it help out a little bit. All Out clutch to me is waaayyyy too much!
Donovan759 wrote:
Right. I feel like they got it just right in MXGP 2. I'm not a fan of the clutch in All Out either. It either feels...
Right. I feel like they got it just right in MXGP 2. I'm not a fan of the clutch in All Out either. It either feels like rocket boosters or like a disengaging a clutch in sand.

Gotta say, (sorry to go off topic) I started free riding on All Out w/ my brother on weekends and riding around to find sick hits... I've never had more fun playing a game in my life. lol Some of the transfers and hits you can find are so cool.
That's all I do on All Out now. I'll put my controller down for 2 seconds and my 2 year old jumps on and loves riding around randomly jumping things. That's literally all we do on there now. I decide I want to race and MES goes in. Are you on Xbox or PS4?
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2/6/2019 1:13pm
The Steve Matthes Memorial Nets have made it to MESX2! Love it!

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Donovan759
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2/6/2019 1:56pm
mattyhamz2 wrote:
I'd imagine your feelings on the clutch not doing anything is equivalent to my feelings on how much I hate how the clutch works on All...
I'd imagine your feelings on the clutch not doing anything is equivalent to my feelings on how much I hate how the clutch works on All Out, lol. It would be nice to have it help out a little bit. All Out clutch to me is waaayyyy too much!
Donovan759 wrote:
Right. I feel like they got it just right in MXGP 2. I'm not a fan of the clutch in All Out either. It either feels...
Right. I feel like they got it just right in MXGP 2. I'm not a fan of the clutch in All Out either. It either feels like rocket boosters or like a disengaging a clutch in sand.

Gotta say, (sorry to go off topic) I started free riding on All Out w/ my brother on weekends and riding around to find sick hits... I've never had more fun playing a game in my life. lol Some of the transfers and hits you can find are so cool.
mattyhamz2 wrote:
That's all I do on All Out now. I'll put my controller down for 2 seconds and my 2 year old jumps on and loves riding...
That's all I do on All Out now. I'll put my controller down for 2 seconds and my 2 year old jumps on and loves riding around randomly jumping things. That's literally all we do on there now. I decide I want to race and MES goes in. Are you on Xbox or PS4?
Xbox unfortunately or we would have been playing together a long time ago. lol
2/6/2019 2:03pm
Donovan759 wrote:
Right. I feel like they got it just right in MXGP 2. I'm not a fan of the clutch in All Out either. It either feels...
Right. I feel like they got it just right in MXGP 2. I'm not a fan of the clutch in All Out either. It either feels like rocket boosters or like a disengaging a clutch in sand.

Gotta say, (sorry to go off topic) I started free riding on All Out w/ my brother on weekends and riding around to find sick hits... I've never had more fun playing a game in my life. lol Some of the transfers and hits you can find are so cool.
mattyhamz2 wrote:
That's all I do on All Out now. I'll put my controller down for 2 seconds and my 2 year old jumps on and loves riding...
That's all I do on All Out now. I'll put my controller down for 2 seconds and my 2 year old jumps on and loves riding around randomly jumping things. That's literally all we do on there now. I decide I want to race and MES goes in. Are you on Xbox or PS4?
Donovan759 wrote:
Xbox unfortunately or we would have been playing together a long time ago. lol
Damn..... Haha. I can't wait to get MES 2, though it might be a little while.
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2/6/2019 3:55pm
There's a patch that just started downloading today. I can't find anything about what's in it
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2/6/2019 4:08pm
DLC support. It didn’t have the cheesy camo gear until the update.
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2/6/2019 11:51pm
Man, I'm loving this game. I'm honestly just thankful there is a company out there trying their best to give our sport what a game like MLB The Show does for baseball. Really pleased with what all they added and improved upon in less than one year. Smile
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2/7/2019 4:25am
When are these sponsored Youtubers just going to be honest and actually say what it is, a re-work of V1 with actual no improvements to GAMEPLAY.. what a joke. Nothing they added to V2 was even something that people have been asking for.
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2/7/2019 5:10am Edited Date/Time 2/7/2019 5:11am
gabrielito wrote:
If they work the limegate mudder into the career mode, that would be epic. maybe a midseason special update?
In career mode 250 west, whichever the first triple crown race was, every race was a mudder. Was very difficult on a stock bike that doesn't turn.


Are you guys tuning your bikes?
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2/7/2019 6:13am
MotoMo165 wrote:
You’re high. Hasn’t even played the game but says it’s a copy and paste of the first one. Honestly I haven’t even looked at the gear...
You’re high. Hasn’t even played the game but says it’s a copy and paste of the first one. Honestly I haven’t even looked at the gear in the game yet, but i don’t really care to dress up my player either, gear is the least of my worries when judging a game. Btw, there is new fonts for Numbers/jerseys names.

The clutch is better in sx2 but still doesn’t do a whole lot. But IMO it has more of a noticeable impact than the previous sx.
new fonts and numbers??? i don’t think so. you can adjust the size and move them around some, but the fonts are the same from the original game....
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2/7/2019 6:38am
Debating getting it for PC vs PS4. I had MES1 on PC but didn't seem like it had a very active player base. Can any of you guys on PS4 vouch for being able to find lobbies?
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2/7/2019 7:11am
Just want a simple answer. Did they improve the bar banging system or do you still turn into an ice skater when someone bumps you?
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2/7/2019 7:41am
Games sick! On 250 west. Can’t wait to unlock 450s.
2/7/2019 8:20am
mxracer372 wrote:
Debating getting it for PC vs PS4. I had MES1 on PC but didn't seem like it had a very active player base. Can any of...
Debating getting it for PC vs PS4. I had MES1 on PC but didn't seem like it had a very active player base. Can any of you guys on PS4 vouch for being able to find lobbies?
We had a big group for MES 1. It was me, Peely, Maverick, dirtmike86 and a few other. It was a good time. If they weren't on, I never had an issue finding a lobby to play in.
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2/7/2019 8:42am
mxracer372 wrote:
Debating getting it for PC vs PS4. I had MES1 on PC but didn't seem like it had a very active player base. Can any of...
Debating getting it for PC vs PS4. I had MES1 on PC but didn't seem like it had a very active player base. Can any of you guys on PS4 vouch for being able to find lobbies?
mattyhamz2 wrote:
We had a big group for MES 1. It was me, Peely, Maverick, dirtmike86 and a few other. It was a good time. If they weren't...
We had a big group for MES 1. It was me, Peely, Maverick, dirtmike86 and a few other. It was a good time. If they weren't on, I never had an issue finding a lobby to play in.
let me get in on some of the action!
2/7/2019 9:04am
Waiting on the pc / steam release which should be in about 24 hours from now. Looking forward to it the videos i've seen so far it looks pretty fun!
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2/7/2019 9:06am
mxracer372 wrote:
Debating getting it for PC vs PS4. I had MES1 on PC but didn't seem like it had a very active player base. Can any of...
Debating getting it for PC vs PS4. I had MES1 on PC but didn't seem like it had a very active player base. Can any of you guys on PS4 vouch for being able to find lobbies?
mattyhamz2 wrote:
We had a big group for MES 1. It was me, Peely, Maverick, dirtmike86 and a few other. It was a good time. If they weren't...
We had a big group for MES 1. It was me, Peely, Maverick, dirtmike86 and a few other. It was a good time. If they weren't on, I never had an issue finding a lobby to play in.
let me get in on some of the action!
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