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Edited Date/Time 12/14/2018 11:18am
Any concerns with buying used KTM's with hours approaching 100? Only looking for 2017 and up models. I'm in the market for a" new to me" bike and have a budget. 450, 250sx, or 125sx. I'm 34 and do race for semi serious fun.

So, I've seen some 2017 KTM 450's with 75 hrs in my price range. Others with 50 hrs just above my price range. Also enjoy a 125 so I'm open to those and have found many with 55-99 hrs.

My concerns are with the KTM's shaving weight all over the bike. How is that effecting longevity and tightness of the frame and other components?
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kb228 11/29/2018 10:18am
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All i have to say is check out the frame before you buy it. They seem to have cracking problems. When you buy it, pull the top end apart. Id be less concerned buying a 100 hour 450 than a 100 hour 125 or 250f.
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Cheddar wrote:
Any concerns with buying used KTM's with hours approaching 100? Only looking for 2017 and up models. I'm in the market for a" new to me"...
Any concerns with buying used KTM's with hours approaching 100? Only looking for 2017 and up models. I'm in the market for a" new to me" bike and have a budget. 450, 250sx, or 125sx. I'm 34 and do race for semi serious fun.

So, I've seen some 2017 KTM 450's with 75 hrs in my price range. Others with 50 hrs just above my price range. Also enjoy a 125 so I'm open to those and have found many with 55-99 hrs.

My concerns are with the KTM's shaving weight all over the bike. How is that effecting longevity and tightness of the frame and other components?
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Cheddar wrote:
Any concerns with buying used KTM's with hours approaching 100? Only looking for 2017 and up models. I'm in the market for a" new to me"...
Any concerns with buying used KTM's with hours approaching 100? Only looking for 2017 and up models. I'm in the market for a" new to me" bike and have a budget. 450, 250sx, or 125sx. I'm 34 and do race for semi serious fun.

So, I've seen some 2017 KTM 450's with 75 hrs in my price range. Others with 50 hrs just above my price range. Also enjoy a 125 so I'm open to those and have found many with 55-99 hrs.

My concerns are with the KTM's shaving weight all over the bike. How is that effecting longevity and tightness of the frame and other components?
Whats your budget?
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aroark247 11/29/2018 10:26am
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KTM's are not known for their durability. Also resale is hard because of their fast advancement in production, new model's are outdated quickly. Parts are expensive and not always readily available. KTM and Husky are definitely elitist brands. Good performance quality but that's about it as far as mx is concerned. Offroad is a different story.

If you have to have a KTM then go with a two stroke.
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aroark247 wrote:
KTM's are not known for their durability. Also resale is hard because of their fast advancement in production, new model's are outdated quickly. Parts are expensive...
KTM's are not known for their durability. Also resale is hard because of their fast advancement in production, new model's are outdated quickly. Parts are expensive and not always readily available. KTM and Husky are definitely elitist brands. Good performance quality but that's about it as far as mx is concerned. Offroad is a different story.

If you have to have a KTM then go with a two stroke.
This can be applied to pretty much any european manufacturer
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Kyle978 11/29/2018 11:21am
11/29/2018 11:21am Edited Date/Time 11/29/2018 2:45pm
aroark247 wrote:
KTM's are not known for their durability. Also resale is hard because of their fast advancement in production, new model's are outdated quickly. Parts are expensive...
KTM's are not known for their durability. Also resale is hard because of their fast advancement in production, new model's are outdated quickly. Parts are expensive and not always readily available. KTM and Husky are definitely elitist brands. Good performance quality but that's about it as far as mx is concerned. Offroad is a different story.

If you have to have a KTM then go with a two stroke.
As someone who has put 100+ hard hours on KTM/Husky's as well as Japanese bikes of almost every brand, and someone who got paid to maintain bikes of every brand that were ridden extremely hard for many hours on SX/oudoors, I couldn't disagree more.
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mattyhamz2 11/29/2018 11:47am
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aroark247 wrote:
KTM's are not known for their durability. Also resale is hard because of their fast advancement in production, new model's are outdated quickly. Parts are expensive...
KTM's are not known for their durability. Also resale is hard because of their fast advancement in production, new model's are outdated quickly. Parts are expensive and not always readily available. KTM and Husky are definitely elitist brands. Good performance quality but that's about it as far as mx is concerned. Offroad is a different story.

If you have to have a KTM then go with a two stroke.
I have to disagree with your thoughts on resale. At least here in California it is the opposite. KTM's and Husky's go for way more than any Japanese bikes.

Parts, yes seem to be expensive but they are pretty darn available here.

Durability wise, well I've seen them with tons of hours still ticking, but I have also seen low hour bikes that haven't held together. I think it is that way with any brand.
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casper 11/29/2018 11:51am
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Kyle978 wrote:
As someone who has put 100+ hard hours on KTM/Husky's as well as Japanese bikes of almost every brand, and someone who got paid to maintain...
As someone who has put 100+ hard hours on KTM/Husky's as well as Japanese bikes of almost every brand, and someone who got paid to maintain bikes of every brand that were ridden extremely hard for many hours on SX/oudoors, I couldn't disagree more.
Same here. I have 140 hours on my 2014 KTM 450 sxf and it's held up. I've only done 1 valve adjustment and I ride/race the shit out of that thing. I've never had problems getting parts for it either, I think that was true in the past, but I haven't found that the case.
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sebastianer 11/29/2018 11:53am
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they hold up really well, they have much better quallity cranks than japs bikes and engines are bulletproof what ive heard, i did an thread on buying a ktm 350 and there was a guy that answerd this : "I have put a total of 450+hrs on my 350 Since day 1 I have never touched the motor. I have never checked the valves, original timing change, original piston, etc... It is 100% stock since the day it's rolled off the showroom floor." and that was an 2016 ktm 350.
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aroark247 wrote:
KTM's are not known for their durability. Also resale is hard because of their fast advancement in production, new model's are outdated quickly. Parts are expensive...
KTM's are not known for their durability. Also resale is hard because of their fast advancement in production, new model's are outdated quickly. Parts are expensive and not always readily available. KTM and Husky are definitely elitist brands. Good performance quality but that's about it as far as mx is concerned. Offroad is a different story.

If you have to have a KTM then go with a two stroke.
This post reminds me of a song I love, Regurgitated Misinformation. Smile
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Cheddar wrote:
Any concerns with buying used KTM's with hours approaching 100? Only looking for 2017 and up models. I'm in the market for a" new to me"...
Any concerns with buying used KTM's with hours approaching 100? Only looking for 2017 and up models. I'm in the market for a" new to me" bike and have a budget. 450, 250sx, or 125sx. I'm 34 and do race for semi serious fun.

So, I've seen some 2017 KTM 450's with 75 hrs in my price range. Others with 50 hrs just above my price range. Also enjoy a 125 so I'm open to those and have found many with 55-99 hrs.

My concerns are with the KTM's shaving weight all over the bike. How is that effecting longevity and tightness of the frame and other components?
How about a super clean 17 350?
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navalseabee 11/29/2018 12:19pm
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Cheddar wrote:
Any concerns with buying used KTM's with hours approaching 100? Only looking for 2017 and up models. I'm in the market for a" new to me"...
Any concerns with buying used KTM's with hours approaching 100? Only looking for 2017 and up models. I'm in the market for a" new to me" bike and have a budget. 450, 250sx, or 125sx. I'm 34 and do race for semi serious fun.

So, I've seen some 2017 KTM 450's with 75 hrs in my price range. Others with 50 hrs just above my price range. Also enjoy a 125 so I'm open to those and have found many with 55-99 hrs.

My concerns are with the KTM's shaving weight all over the bike. How is that effecting longevity and tightness of the frame and other components?
Shameless plug: I'm selling my 2018 150SX, check the forsale section.

But FWIW my 2017 250xc is sitting at 310 hours oem crank no major issues. Ridden and raced A level offroad since I got her new.
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I’ve got hundreds of hours on mine. Nothing but oil and filter changes.
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crusty_xx 11/29/2018 1:12pm
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aroark247 wrote:
KTM's are not known for their durability. Also resale is hard because of their fast advancement in production, new model's are outdated quickly. Parts are expensive...
KTM's are not known for their durability. Also resale is hard because of their fast advancement in production, new model's are outdated quickly. Parts are expensive and not always readily available. KTM and Husky are definitely elitist brands. Good performance quality but that's about it as far as mx is concerned. Offroad is a different story.

If you have to have a KTM then go with a two stroke.
That was 10 years ago.
2006 I swore never to buy a KTM again when in one single season a footpeg broke off, shock support broke (resulted in a broken collarbone), and the rod cracked.

Well things changed. Today I have two white bikes in my garage.
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aroark247 wrote:
KTM's are not known for their durability. Also resale is hard because of their fast advancement in production, new model's are outdated quickly. Parts are expensive...
KTM's are not known for their durability. Also resale is hard because of their fast advancement in production, new model's are outdated quickly. Parts are expensive and not always readily available. KTM and Husky are definitely elitist brands. Good performance quality but that's about it as far as mx is concerned. Offroad is a different story.

If you have to have a KTM then go with a two stroke.
Kyle978 wrote:
As someone who has put 100+ hard hours on KTM/Husky's as well as Japanese bikes of almost every brand, and someone who got paid to maintain...
As someone who has put 100+ hard hours on KTM/Husky's as well as Japanese bikes of almost every brand, and someone who got paid to maintain bikes of every brand that were ridden extremely hard for many hours on SX/oudoors, I couldn't disagree more.
I agree with you fella....I've been buying ktms since 2009 and even bought a '13 150XC with 75 hours and rode that sucker for another 2 years just doing top ends. And at 210# I raced it in moto and off road, frame was fine and never had any reliability issues with these bikes.
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Just my $0.02.
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I had 165 h on my 16/450 SXF and no issues. No smoke, no need to adjust valves, no piston slap. That bike was sold a year ago and is still going strong - now with around 200 h. My 450/17 never gave problems, the 450/18 is just the same and I fully expect sterling service from my 450/19 HQV as well.
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I've had a 16 Husky 450 and currently have a 17 KTM 450. Only issue I've had was the stock battery. I put a wp lithium in each and haven't had a problem since. I am currently selling the KTM 450 with 77 hours on it.
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128 hours on my 16 450 and zero problems. I liked it so much that I’ve bought 3 more KTM’s
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I have a 2016.5 FE with 100 hrs... Normal matinence ....the frame did develop cracks at the head tube...Ktm warrantied it with a new frame, I did the labor. I love the bike... No other issue...Put it up for sale at 5500.00, no takers...after reading the test of the new bikes, I"m just going to keep it....
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sebastianer wrote:
they hold up really well, they have much better quallity cranks than japs bikes and engines are bulletproof what ive heard, i did an thread on...
they hold up really well, they have much better quallity cranks than japs bikes and engines are bulletproof what ive heard, i did an thread on buying a ktm 350 and there was a guy that answerd this : "I have put a total of 450+hrs on my 350 Since day 1 I have never touched the motor. I have never checked the valves, original timing change, original piston, etc... It is 100% stock since the day it's rolled off the showroom floor." and that was an 2016 ktm 350.
Hes also probably seen some unicorns too.
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mxracerjohn250 11/29/2018 6:17pm
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I know a guy that tore down a 450 with 125 hours. The thing was like brand new still. I dont buy into these guys doing all this work at 50 hours.
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aroark247 wrote:
KTM's are not known for their durability. Also resale is hard because of their fast advancement in production, new model's are outdated quickly. Parts are expensive...
KTM's are not known for their durability. Also resale is hard because of their fast advancement in production, new model's are outdated quickly. Parts are expensive and not always readily available. KTM and Husky are definitely elitist brands. Good performance quality but that's about it as far as mx is concerned. Offroad is a different story.

If you have to have a KTM then go with a two stroke.
76 hours on my 17 350sxf and no issues other than wear parts. Valves still in spec and everything.
KTM OEM parts aren’t much more if not the same than any of the others?
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bkevinmar 11/29/2018 8:18pm
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Cheddar wrote:
Any concerns with buying used KTM's with hours approaching 100? Only looking for 2017 and up models. I'm in the market for a" new to me"...
Any concerns with buying used KTM's with hours approaching 100? Only looking for 2017 and up models. I'm in the market for a" new to me" bike and have a budget. 450, 250sx, or 125sx. I'm 34 and do race for semi serious fun.

So, I've seen some 2017 KTM 450's with 75 hrs in my price range. Others with 50 hrs just above my price range. Also enjoy a 125 so I'm open to those and have found many with 55-99 hrs.

My concerns are with the KTM's shaving weight all over the bike. How is that effecting longevity and tightness of the frame and other components?
I have a 17 450 w 105hrs for sale, text me if you’re interested 858 354-7484
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Also depends on the group your buying from. My age group 50's-60's, we get 200 hrs plus with no issues. Regular maintenance, your good to go.

Younger crowd... Unsure
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Monk 11/29/2018 9:37pm
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sebastianer wrote:
they hold up really well, they have much better quallity cranks than japs bikes and engines are bulletproof what ive heard, i did an thread on...
they hold up really well, they have much better quallity cranks than japs bikes and engines are bulletproof what ive heard, i did an thread on buying a ktm 350 and there was a guy that answerd this : "I have put a total of 450+hrs on my 350 Since day 1 I have never touched the motor. I have never checked the valves, original timing change, original piston, etc... It is 100% stock since the day it's rolled off the showroom floor." and that was an 2016 ktm 350.
That was me...450+hrs,
stock motor, never touched, never checked valves, Rotella 15/40 and pump 92... AA/Pro offroad rider

Just upgraded to a new Husky FX350 though.


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PTECH 11/29/2018 9:39pm
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Unsure of the hours on my 14 450xcf. I bought it from a guy who could ride out of his garage to my favorite riding area. The seller estimated 60-80 hours on it when i bought it. Looking at the boot wear on the cases I figured double that, price was right though and it was modified exactly how I would have built it so pulled the trigger. Checked and adjusted one valve when i first bought it and I've put 70 more hours on it completely trouble free. I think its probably over 200 hours by now. It still runs great. I think they're great bikes. I would try to stay away from first year designs though with any manufacturer.
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Eddieg15 11/30/2018 9:37am
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Don't listen to all the crap. Ktm 450. 200 hrs no big deal. Parts have been easy to get when I have to get them. Dependable bikes
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