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Real MX Fan wrote:

Prejump, as is usual for younger people, you are missing the point of the article, it is not about riders or quality of racing, it is...

Prejump, as is usual for younger people, you are missing the point of the article, it is not about riders or quality of racing, it is about how our sport is governed and managed, talent will out and it is certainly not about US vs GP, as the US is heading the same way now that some people are in bed with YS.

What will happen when YS disappear after destroying the infrastructure, how are delegates to the FIM who are supposed to be elected from their own Governing Body, not members of their own Governing Body, why did they virtually give away the rights to our sport for nothing, why are journalists who criticize YS in any way banned from GP's, why are there only 20 odd riders on the gate, why are riders not paid prize money/start money, why has the MX2 World Championship been downgraded to a junior World Championship, why are most of the circuit advertisers associated with one motorcycle manufacturer, where are all the major outside sponsors promised by YS, why does YS need to not only charge nearly a million euros to run a race, then take the advertising fees as well, why are only certain riders allowed to race (those who can afford it), why do they have to ride for preferred teams, who charge them 100,000 euro for the privilege?

The FIM & YS are both corrupt, possibly unlike you I can remember both era's of the sport as you call it, I remember GPs at great tracks with thousands of spectators, sponsors like Pepsi, Skittles etc., and 40 riders on the gate and a full gate of non qualifiers too, and riders getting paid enough to get to the next round.

I have also attended 10-15 GP's per year since the return of YS and have seen the standard drop, gates falling to ridiculous levels, talented riders losing their jobs and careers because they can't compete with riders 'placed' by YS to boost viewing in certain areas, and the downgrading of a Championship to Junior levels, as well as seeing many people and sometimes governing bodies nearly bankrupted by YS demands, and what do they put back into the sport, nothing!!


I appreciate you may be only interested in what happens on track, and that's fine, but the 'old farts' as you call them that actually put on the racing for you to enjoy, maybe see further than that, so why have a go without seeing the incredible levels of corruption here, people in the Soccer/football world have gone to jail for less than what is contained in this website, if you don't care then that's fine, but some of us do care about the future, not just the here and now, as for your earlier post about benefits of YS, the only thing I can see they have improved is paddock hard standing, the 'feeder series' you mention used to be the National Championships which YS have stated they want to destroy, look at the MAXXIS in GB, where are the GP riders that you were able to see, gone, ever ask yourself why, and maybe you don't care that GP's are in countries with dubious human rights records, maybe you think watching 20 riders in the dark in the desert with no spectators in a country where no dirt bikes have ever been sold id good for the sport, I don't myself, or maybe you think dragging riders to countries to garner votes for upcoming FIM Presidential elections is spreading the gospel of motocross worldwide, then I'm afraid you are extremely naïve.


YS has killed the soul of our sport, they are money grabbing corrupt organisation that have done nothing good for the sport, nothing, and one day they will walk away and then we'll see who really cares about the sport, although to be fair, the real villains are the FIM who have sold out, and by the way, look out USA, they are coming for you too.

Prejump wrote:

The don't think any organisation is immune to the kind of thing. Bottom line YS have delivered a proper professional model of a world championship. They...

The don't think any organisation is immune to the kind of thing.

Bottom line YS have delivered a proper professional model of a world championship.

They have delivered a decent feeder class system

They delivered plenty of riders capable of arriving at the home of US motocross & teaching them a lesson on how to ride.

YS isn't perfect nothing is, but IMO world level motocross has improved under their direction.

ATKpilot99 wrote:

What exactly does this thread have to do with US motocross ? Before you answer that's a rhetorical question. It's nice to know though that even...

What exactly does this thread have to do with US motocross ? Before you answer that's a rhetorical question. It's nice to know though that even when we're down we're still in everyone's head .

Prejump wrote:

Year ago I used to post on a uk mx forum. MXUK, part of adrenaline trip. All the old farts hated YS with such a passion...

Year ago I used to post on a uk mx forum. MXUK, part of adrenaline trip.

All the old farts hated YS with such a passion, YS could do nothing positive. The GP's were constantly compared to a previous era & world dynamic.

AMA was bar far the better series & YS were making everything worse.

I argued the positives YS were doing & personally preferred the approach they had.

So I must admit it leaves me with some quiet satisfaction to see so much GP & EMX riders succeed when for years all what we heard was negatives.

JasonJLF wrote:

Prejump: I was one of those "old farts" on MXTRAX back in the day, and remember a couple of posters defending YS while the majority (not...

Prejump: I was one of those "old farts" on MXTRAX back in the day, and remember a couple of posters defending YS while the majority (not just the farts) criticised YS. I also remember you guys getting shot down regularly too, while you repeatedly said "wait and see; everyone will be rich soon!"

Scroll on a few years and there's a world series that very few are earning money from (as the farts predicted), and seems tilted towards snuffing out careers when the music stops at the end of each year and the dwindling team places get snapped up - mostly by guys who have to bring money to a team instead of getting paid by them. Yes, there's a handful of top guys doing well, but there's nothing behind them. No money, no support, nothing.

The current level of the top GP riders is in spite of YS, not because of it.. The results of hard work and talent from guys like Herlings and Cairoli shouldn't be used as something for YS to hide behind.

JasonJLF wrote:

Prejump: I was one of those "old farts" on MXTRAX back in the day, and remember a couple of posters defending YS while the majority (not...

Prejump: I was one of those "old farts" on MXTRAX back in the day, and remember a couple of posters defending YS while the majority (not just the farts) criticised YS. I also remember you guys getting shot down regularly too, while you repeatedly said "wait and see; everyone will be rich soon!"

Scroll on a few years and there's a world series that very few are earning money from (as the farts predicted), and seems tilted towards snuffing out careers when the music stops at the end of each year and the dwindling team places get snapped up - mostly by guys who have to bring money to a team instead of getting paid by them. Yes, there's a handful of top guys doing well, but there's nothing behind them. No money, no support, nothing.

The current level of the top GP riders is in spite of YS, not because of it.. The results of hard work and talent from guys like Herlings and Cairoli shouldn't be used as something for YS to hide behind.

Real MX Fan wrote:

Prejump, as is usual for younger people, you are missing the point of the article, it is not about riders or quality of racing, it is...

Prejump, as is usual for younger people, you are missing the point of the article, it is not about riders or quality of racing, it is about how our sport is governed and managed, talent will out and it is certainly not about US vs GP, as the US is heading the same way now that some people are in bed with YS.

What will happen when YS disappear after destroying the infrastructure, how are delegates to the FIM who are supposed to be elected from their own Governing Body, not members of their own Governing Body, why did they virtually give away the rights to our sport for nothing, why are journalists who criticize YS in any way banned from GP's, why are there only 20 odd riders on the gate, why are riders not paid prize money/start money, why has the MX2 World Championship been downgraded to a junior World Championship, why are most of the circuit advertisers associated with one motorcycle manufacturer, where are all the major outside sponsors promised by YS, why does YS need to not only charge nearly a million euros to run a race, then take the advertising fees as well, why are only certain riders allowed to race (those who can afford it), why do they have to ride for preferred teams, who charge them 100,000 euro for the privilege?

The FIM & YS are both corrupt, possibly unlike you I can remember both era's of the sport as you call it, I remember GPs at great tracks with thousands of spectators, sponsors like Pepsi, Skittles etc., and 40 riders on the gate and a full gate of non qualifiers too, and riders getting paid enough to get to the next round.

I have also attended 10-15 GP's per year since the return of YS and have seen the standard drop, gates falling to ridiculous levels, talented riders losing their jobs and careers because they can't compete with riders 'placed' by YS to boost viewing in certain areas, and the downgrading of a Championship to Junior levels, as well as seeing many people and sometimes governing bodies nearly bankrupted by YS demands, and what do they put back into the sport, nothing!!


I appreciate you may be only interested in what happens on track, and that's fine, but the 'old farts' as you call them that actually put on the racing for you to enjoy, maybe see further than that, so why have a go without seeing the incredible levels of corruption here, people in the Soccer/football world have gone to jail for less than what is contained in this website, if you don't care then that's fine, but some of us do care about the future, not just the here and now, as for your earlier post about benefits of YS, the only thing I can see they have improved is paddock hard standing, the 'feeder series' you mention used to be the National Championships which YS have stated they want to destroy, look at the MAXXIS in GB, where are the GP riders that you were able to see, gone, ever ask yourself why, and maybe you don't care that GP's are in countries with dubious human rights records, maybe you think watching 20 riders in the dark in the desert with no spectators in a country where no dirt bikes have ever been sold id good for the sport, I don't myself, or maybe you think dragging riders to countries to garner votes for upcoming FIM Presidential elections is spreading the gospel of motocross worldwide, then I'm afraid you are extremely naïve.


YS has killed the soul of our sport, they are money grabbing corrupt organisation that have done nothing good for the sport, nothing, and one day they will walk away and then we'll see who really cares about the sport, although to be fair, the real villains are the FIM who have sold out, and by the way, look out USA, they are coming for you too.

500guy wrote:

it's really sad that the only real gauge being used is the USA loss's at the last few MXdN's it's almost like people think be as...

it's really sad that the only real gauge being used is the USA loss's at the last few MXdN's

it's almost like people think be as corrupt as you want as long as we beat USA.

philG wrote:

And just like that Srb has withdrawn from the election, and the FIM... well fancy that .

JasonJLF wrote:

Prejump: I was one of those "old farts" on MXTRAX back in the day, and remember a couple of posters defending YS while the majority (not...

Prejump: I was one of those "old farts" on MXTRAX back in the day, and remember a couple of posters defending YS while the majority (not just the farts) criticised YS. I also remember you guys getting shot down regularly too, while you repeatedly said "wait and see; everyone will be rich soon!"

Scroll on a few years and there's a world series that very few are earning money from (as the farts predicted), and seems tilted towards snuffing out careers when the music stops at the end of each year and the dwindling team places get snapped up - mostly by guys who have to bring money to a team instead of getting paid by them. Yes, there's a handful of top guys doing well, but there's nothing behind them. No money, no support, nothing.

The current level of the top GP riders is in spite of YS, not because of it.. The results of hard work and talent from guys like Herlings and Cairoli shouldn't be used as something for YS to hide behind.

Prejump wrote:

Tottally dissagree. MXGP has enormous depth, it's not just down to AC & JH. The depth of 10th to 20th is also very strong. The MX2...

Tottally dissagree.

MXGP has enormous depth, it's not just down to AC & JH.

The depth of 10th to 20th is also very strong.

The MX2 world champ beat Tomac, after most on Vital thought the MX2 was a level behind 250 AMA. Guessing he lapped Plessinger.

The GP's are strong through because the pyramid system works.

Yes fly aways are expensive & a pain in the arse for most, but its a world series looking to evolve into new territory.

It just seems to me some people are hard wired into negative thinking, especially regarding world mx.

If we looked in Feld past with a microscope do you think it would be squeaky clean ??

JasonJLF wrote:

So the current crop of talent excuses financial mismanagement and undelivered promises? You're taking one thing, and using it to excuse something else. GP riders are...

So the current crop of talent excuses financial mismanagement and undelivered promises? You're taking one thing, and using it to excuse something else. GP riders are fast because of changes in technique, knowledge, riding style and so on - a lot of which started 15, 20 years when the AMA riders showed how it should be done. It's just a cycle turning full circle and currently the GP riders are fast, but don't think YS are responsible. Herlings isn't fast because YS send him to some shithole track set up in a field, watched by 150 spectators.

I remember the "world series looking to expand" excuses being thrown around 5, 10, 15 years ago when the money to riders dried up, and races started being given to any country willing to cough up the backhanders...sorry; license fee. How many of the flyaway races from a few years ago are still on the schedule?

You're saying "wait and see" while forgetting you were saying the same thing years ago. How much longer..?

As for "the pyramid system works"... as in; have a glut of fast riders all reaching 23 then throwing 75% of them off the World scene and out of a job/back into domestic series, because of a ridiculous age limit that kills careers, and has just been made 10x worse with the changes to EMX250.?

How many riders have just lost jobs in the EMX series because they are suddenly too old? Hey, they can go to MX2!! Oh wait, that's U-23 only too...

JasonJLF wrote:

So the current crop of talent excuses financial mismanagement and undelivered promises? You're taking one thing, and using it to excuse something else. GP riders are...

So the current crop of talent excuses financial mismanagement and undelivered promises? You're taking one thing, and using it to excuse something else. GP riders are fast because of changes in technique, knowledge, riding style and so on - a lot of which started 15, 20 years when the AMA riders showed how it should be done. It's just a cycle turning full circle and currently the GP riders are fast, but don't think YS are responsible. Herlings isn't fast because YS send him to some shithole track set up in a field, watched by 150 spectators.

I remember the "world series looking to expand" excuses being thrown around 5, 10, 15 years ago when the money to riders dried up, and races started being given to any country willing to cough up the backhanders...sorry; license fee. How many of the flyaway races from a few years ago are still on the schedule?

You're saying "wait and see" while forgetting you were saying the same thing years ago. How much longer..?

As for "the pyramid system works"... as in; have a glut of fast riders all reaching 23 then throwing 75% of them off the World scene and out of a job/back into domestic series, because of a ridiculous age limit that kills careers, and has just been made 10x worse with the changes to EMX250.?

How many riders have just lost jobs in the EMX series because they are suddenly too old? Hey, they can go to MX2!! Oh wait, that's U-23 only too...

Prejump wrote:

Isnt there a 2 stroke class for the guys that are too old for emx 250 ? Im not saying wait & see. YS manages the...

Isnt there a 2 stroke class for the guys that are too old for emx 250 ?

Im not saying wait & see. YS manages the fastest & deeped classes in MX period.

There is not a series that offers anything like the standard the GP's offer. MXGPTV is producing media coverage at the highest quality we have ever seen.

Open you eyes & look at whats happening presently. Fly aways are a compromise, but in general GP's are stacked & deep. Stop moaning about corruption & just enjoy the modern era.

Privateers at world level is history for a whole host of reasons. It's a quality over quantity model now & its working.

Look at the lap times the classes are deep with talent, because thats what a strong series produces.

JasonJLF wrote:

So the current crop of talent excuses financial mismanagement and undelivered promises? You're taking one thing, and using it to excuse something else. GP riders are...

So the current crop of talent excuses financial mismanagement and undelivered promises? You're taking one thing, and using it to excuse something else. GP riders are fast because of changes in technique, knowledge, riding style and so on - a lot of which started 15, 20 years when the AMA riders showed how it should be done. It's just a cycle turning full circle and currently the GP riders are fast, but don't think YS are responsible. Herlings isn't fast because YS send him to some shithole track set up in a field, watched by 150 spectators.

I remember the "world series looking to expand" excuses being thrown around 5, 10, 15 years ago when the money to riders dried up, and races started being given to any country willing to cough up the backhanders...sorry; license fee. How many of the flyaway races from a few years ago are still on the schedule?

You're saying "wait and see" while forgetting you were saying the same thing years ago. How much longer..?

As for "the pyramid system works"... as in; have a glut of fast riders all reaching 23 then throwing 75% of them off the World scene and out of a job/back into domestic series, because of a ridiculous age limit that kills careers, and has just been made 10x worse with the changes to EMX250.?

How many riders have just lost jobs in the EMX series because they are suddenly too old? Hey, they can go to MX2!! Oh wait, that's U-23 only too...

Prejump wrote:

Isnt there a 2 stroke class for the guys that are too old for emx 250 ? Im not saying wait & see. YS manages the...

Isnt there a 2 stroke class for the guys that are too old for emx 250 ?

Im not saying wait & see. YS manages the fastest & deeped classes in MX period.

There is not a series that offers anything like the standard the GP's offer. MXGPTV is producing media coverage at the highest quality we have ever seen.

Open you eyes & look at whats happening presently. Fly aways are a compromise, but in general GP's are stacked & deep. Stop moaning about corruption & just enjoy the modern era.

Privateers at world level is history for a whole host of reasons. It's a quality over quantity model now & its working.

Look at the lap times the classes are deep with talent, because thats what a strong series produces.

Real MX Fan wrote:

Once again missing the point prejump, a comment like 'stop moaning about corruption and open your eyes, shows how shallow/naïve/stupid/young you are, what an idiotic and...

Once again missing the point prejump, a comment like 'stop moaning about corruption and open your eyes, shows how shallow/naïve/stupid/young you are, what an idiotic and immature thing to say, high level corruption is not to be ignored, these people would be in jail if they were in charge of any other sport, grow up you fool, it's not about the racing, its about the sport, you have no foresight, and are obviously not intelligent enough to be on discussing this topic:

Before I ignore you further, tell me:

What are the reasons privateers are not welcome?

What benefits have YS brought to GP's that weren't already there?

Fly aways are only available to factory riders, is that fair?

Are you seeijngh the best riders, or only who can afford it?

Are you not concerned about wher our sport pitches up and what regimes we are associated with?

Quality over quantity, what a facile and stupid comment, you are truly an idiot if you think that, how do you measure quality if you are only taking what you are given and the poorer riders are excluded?

Have you ever ben to a GP ever??? I have been to plenty over the years, and if you think Qatar and Indonesia are gret Gp's comared to Namur and Gaildorf, then you truly know nothing about our sport

Real MX Fan wrote:

Good to see this website back up, just to remind people that the corrupt FIM sold the soul of our sport to a bunch of gangsters...

Good to see this website back up, just to remind people that the corrupt FIM sold the soul of our sport to a bunch of gangsters who charge a fortune to promoters, take any money they can and reinvest NOTHING in the future of our sport, how anyone thinks that GP racing has been improved is beyond me, or maybe they cannot remember when riders could enter any GP they wanted without having to stump up 10,000 euro and actually got paid prize money, rode on proper tracks, not these artificial supercross tracks, and promoters were Clubs who reinvested the money into facilities, YS charge at least 500, 000 euro to run a race, then take all the trackside advertising revenue, exclude riders if they have no money, have devalued the MX2 World Championship, and have ruined every National Series in Europe with their stupid calender, and lets not get started on the countries they go to an their human rights records, re a money grabbing organisation who withdraw press passes from anyone who speaks out against them, hence they have tame journalists who simply do their bidding in public, but criticise in private, same goes for FIM Officials who are happy to pocket the brown envelopes. TV coverage is rubbish too, wee tiny bikes hidden behind huge advertising hoardings, putting riders who should be racing out of work, destroying and shortening careers, promoters setting rules, they should promote what the FIM want to run, not the other way round, they have ruined our sport irrevocably, but made millionaires of themselves

JasonJLF wrote:

So the current crop of talent excuses financial mismanagement and undelivered promises? You're taking one thing, and using it to excuse something else. GP riders are...

So the current crop of talent excuses financial mismanagement and undelivered promises? You're taking one thing, and using it to excuse something else. GP riders are fast because of changes in technique, knowledge, riding style and so on - a lot of which started 15, 20 years when the AMA riders showed how it should be done. It's just a cycle turning full circle and currently the GP riders are fast, but don't think YS are responsible. Herlings isn't fast because YS send him to some shithole track set up in a field, watched by 150 spectators.

I remember the "world series looking to expand" excuses being thrown around 5, 10, 15 years ago when the money to riders dried up, and races started being given to any country willing to cough up the backhanders...sorry; license fee. How many of the flyaway races from a few years ago are still on the schedule?

You're saying "wait and see" while forgetting you were saying the same thing years ago. How much longer..?

As for "the pyramid system works"... as in; have a glut of fast riders all reaching 23 then throwing 75% of them off the World scene and out of a job/back into domestic series, because of a ridiculous age limit that kills careers, and has just been made 10x worse with the changes to EMX250.?

How many riders have just lost jobs in the EMX series because they are suddenly too old? Hey, they can go to MX2!! Oh wait, that's U-23 only too...

Prejump wrote:

Isnt there a 2 stroke class for the guys that are too old for emx 250 ? Im not saying wait & see. YS manages the...

Isnt there a 2 stroke class for the guys that are too old for emx 250 ?

Im not saying wait & see. YS manages the fastest & deeped classes in MX period.

There is not a series that offers anything like the standard the GP's offer. MXGPTV is producing media coverage at the highest quality we have ever seen.

Open you eyes & look at whats happening presently. Fly aways are a compromise, but in general GP's are stacked & deep. Stop moaning about corruption & just enjoy the modern era.

Privateers at world level is history for a whole host of reasons. It's a quality over quantity model now & its working.

Look at the lap times the classes are deep with talent, because thats what a strong series produces.

rangot wrote:

Dr Evil beach house is really nice !!!

roninho wrote:

Fraser, that assumes that this would be news for the national governing bodies, which i seriously doubt. Gert Jan van Doorn (former GP winner and former...

Fraser, that assumes that this would be news for the national governing bodies, which i seriously doubt.

Gert Jan van Doorn (former GP winner and former rider for a Luongo managed team in the 80's or early 90's) stated some years ago in an interview that Luongo had done time in jail and that this is common knowledge.

Prejump wrote:

Isnt there a 2 stroke class for the guys that are too old for emx 250 ? Im not saying wait & see. YS manages the...

Isnt there a 2 stroke class for the guys that are too old for emx 250 ?

Im not saying wait & see. YS manages the fastest & deeped classes in MX period.

There is not a series that offers anything like the standard the GP's offer. MXGPTV is producing media coverage at the highest quality we have ever seen.

Open you eyes & look at whats happening presently. Fly aways are a compromise, but in general GP's are stacked & deep. Stop moaning about corruption & just enjoy the modern era.

Privateers at world level is history for a whole host of reasons. It's a quality over quantity model now & its working.

Look at the lap times the classes are deep with talent, because thats what a strong series produces.

JasonJLF wrote:

So the current crop of talent excuses financial mismanagement and undelivered promises? You're taking one thing, and using it to excuse something else. GP riders are...

So the current crop of talent excuses financial mismanagement and undelivered promises? You're taking one thing, and using it to excuse something else. GP riders are fast because of changes in technique, knowledge, riding style and so on - a lot of which started 15, 20 years when the AMA riders showed how it should be done. It's just a cycle turning full circle and currently the GP riders are fast, but don't think YS are responsible. Herlings isn't fast because YS send him to some shithole track set up in a field, watched by 150 spectators.

I remember the "world series looking to expand" excuses being thrown around 5, 10, 15 years ago when the money to riders dried up, and races started being given to any country willing to cough up the backhanders...sorry; license fee. How many of the flyaway races from a few years ago are still on the schedule?

You're saying "wait and see" while forgetting you were saying the same thing years ago. How much longer..?

As for "the pyramid system works"... as in; have a glut of fast riders all reaching 23 then throwing 75% of them off the World scene and out of a job/back into domestic series, because of a ridiculous age limit that kills careers, and has just been made 10x worse with the changes to EMX250.?

How many riders have just lost jobs in the EMX series because they are suddenly too old? Hey, they can go to MX2!! Oh wait, that's U-23 only too...

Prejump wrote:

Isnt there a 2 stroke class for the guys that are too old for emx 250 ? Im not saying wait & see. YS manages the...

Isnt there a 2 stroke class for the guys that are too old for emx 250 ?

Im not saying wait & see. YS manages the fastest & deeped classes in MX period.

There is not a series that offers anything like the standard the GP's offer. MXGPTV is producing media coverage at the highest quality we have ever seen.

Open you eyes & look at whats happening presently. Fly aways are a compromise, but in general GP's are stacked & deep. Stop moaning about corruption & just enjoy the modern era.

Privateers at world level is history for a whole host of reasons. It's a quality over quantity model now & its working.

Look at the lap times the classes are deep with talent, because thats what a strong series produces.

JasonJLF wrote:

So anyone over 23 has to drop to a support series with no actual clout? Media coverage? Do you mean expensive pay per view, or the...

So anyone over 23 has to drop to a support series with no actual clout?

Media coverage? Do you mean expensive pay per view, or the Motors TV coverage that has now gone, leaving no mainstream coverage? You know; the kind of coverage YS supporters were promising for years.?

I'm sure guys trying to find ways of funding a team getting to the flyaway GPs will be relieved to hear they're just a compromise. A compromise for what by the way? Proper tracks?

Why is it okay for "privateers to be history"? You're in a very small minority with that one.

As for "stop moaning about the corruption and enjoy the modern era"...…. Jeeeezzz…. I have no words to say about that. Except maybe that it's that "see no evil, as long as it looks good" attitude is why the world is going to hell in a handcart right now. Absolutely speechless...

Prejump wrote:

Isnt there a 2 stroke class for the guys that are too old for emx 250 ? Im not saying wait & see. YS manages the...

Isnt there a 2 stroke class for the guys that are too old for emx 250 ?

Im not saying wait & see. YS manages the fastest & deeped classes in MX period.

There is not a series that offers anything like the standard the GP's offer. MXGPTV is producing media coverage at the highest quality we have ever seen.

Open you eyes & look at whats happening presently. Fly aways are a compromise, but in general GP's are stacked & deep. Stop moaning about corruption & just enjoy the modern era.

Privateers at world level is history for a whole host of reasons. It's a quality over quantity model now & its working.

Look at the lap times the classes are deep with talent, because thats what a strong series produces.

CalimeroFan wrote:

Are you ill bro? MXGP-TV is way too expensive and of a complete shit quality. F*kking frustating. Besides that Youthstream asks so much money for the...

Are you ill bro? MXGP-TV is way too expensive and of a complete shit quality. F*kking frustating.
Besides that Youthstream asks so much money for the TV rights that one after another channel is stopping with broadcasting.
We have the worldchampion here in The Netherlands but you can';t see the GP's on TV.....

Then they make 'old' riders go race a two stroke, well that really sounds like a company who is looking at the future. If you love the sport you should ban twostrokes and start an electric bike class or something. Like Formula E.. Not a fan of these electric bikes myself but it is the future, no matter what.

aees wrote:

Ever heard of Eurosport? And you think $110 is expensive for a season package of MXGP including EMX, including MXON? Maybe quit riding man. Start an...

Ever heard of Eurosport? And you think $110 is expensive for a season package of MXGP including EMX, including MXON? Maybe quit riding man.

Start an electric class? Which vendors would be in that one and put up money to race a class? Alta that has no cash? Wake up.

The streaming always works flawless, in HD without shitty compression or delays like the SX stuff in US.

Prejump wrote:

No need to get personal ;) Yes Ive been to many GP's & MXON. I just think your taking a negative view of the GP's, and...

No need to get personal

Yes Ive been to many GP's & MXON.

I just think your taking a negative view of the GP's, and are looking back with rose tinted specs.

The days of driving around racing the worlds best is gone. Technology costs, fuel costs etc are all different.

Nowadays the model is media focus, the big teams do well, the privateers stay domestic/emx. Its not rocket science.

Stop trying to bring back the past, it will never happens.

If the corruption is that blatent, just inform the relevant authorities, move on.

Fraser wrote:

aees, that all sounds great. Apart from the fact that Eurosport in the UK only show the MXGPs when they feel like it. If just about...

aees, that all sounds great.

Apart from the fact that Eurosport in the UK only show the MXGPs when they feel like it. If just about any other sport is live at the time, (snooker, horse riding, whatever) then they drop MXGP on the spot, and then maybe show it at some time later. Even when they do its normally only 1 race live and the others on delay. Its just not reliable coverage.

philG wrote:

And just like that Srb has withdrawn from the election, and the FIM... well fancy that .