Pastrana live jump discussion

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MX-Files wrote:
Guys, Any 3 hour TV special involving motorcycling is good for motorcycling, motorcycle sales, TV production about motorcycles, etc. etc. Cheer History Channel, TP and everyone...
Guys,
Any 3 hour TV special involving motorcycling is good for motorcycling, motorcycle sales, TV production about motorcycles, etc. etc. Cheer History Channel, TP and everyone involved.

We need Motorcycle TV heroes!
My wife never watches racing, but she watched this event and enjoyed it.

Obviously it was basically a publicity stunt for the new Nitro Circus Vegas residency, and almost turned into an Indian Motorcycles infomercial, but it was still pretty fun to watch!
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500guy wrote:
I think what people are saying is if we can get 3 hours of this mostly bullshit, why can't we get some more Racing over a...
I think what people are saying is if we can get 3 hours of this mostly bullshit, why can't we get some more Racing over a 3 hour span without jumping channels or being bumped for woman's softball.
Even though it was Travis Pastrana on a motorcycle, this event was more comparable to something like American Idol than motocross or supercross.
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Pastrana is the ultimate showman no doubt about it.

He even learned the sitting down rag doll jump style that Evel had.
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olds cool wrote:
Nailed it of course!

Now please retire Travis.
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He said he's not done yet.
I think he said he's done doing world firsts though as well.

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500guy wrote:
Pastrana is the ultimate showman no doubt about it.

He even learned the sitting down rag doll jump style that Evel had.
You know, I think thats just how it ends up going when hucking heavy V-twins like that. If it looked like that for Travis, ole Evel was doing pretty good considering those clunky old XRs and Triumph twins he was riding.

Now Kaptain Robbie? He has no excuse for looking like a goon. Sooooo glad they kept him off that show.
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7/8/2018 8:49pm Edited Date/Time 7/8/2018 9:03pm
MX-Files wrote:
Guys, Any 3 hour TV special involving motorcycling is good for motorcycling, motorcycle sales, TV production about motorcycles, etc. etc. Cheer History Channel, TP and everyone...
Guys,
Any 3 hour TV special involving motorcycling is good for motorcycling, motorcycle sales, TV production about motorcycles, etc. etc. Cheer History Channel, TP and everyone involved.

We need Motorcycle TV heroes!
APLMAN99 wrote:
My wife never watches racing, but she watched this event and enjoyed it. Obviously it was basically a publicity stunt for the new Nitro Circus Vegas...
My wife never watches racing, but she watched this event and enjoyed it.

Obviously it was basically a publicity stunt for the new Nitro Circus Vegas residency, and almost turned into an Indian Motorcycles infomercial, but it was still pretty fun to watch!
Yeah Aple.... That's what the core guys here just can't get. My girlfriend got sucked right in also.
She actually enjoyed it.
She's one of the masses.
This might have been weak or gay to the bad dudes here.
But, watch and see how weak this is, ratings wise, compared to, let's say, last weeks Red Bud.

That some don't understand how and why it happened, and what it meant to motorcycling in general, eh, let them figure it out .
7/8/2018 8:52pm

Is it just me or do those forks look bent back?
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I don't care what anyone says. That was entertainment. I loved it. I grew up as a kid admiring Evel, although I was born in late 70s. But I loved the stunts, the bikes, the toys. I loved it and had it all. Heck, I even watched Devlin by Hanna Barbera which was an obvious cop of Evel.

TP199's Indian Scout 750 was a thing of beauty. Too bad I don't have 49K laying around for a EK replica. Lol.

But seriously...that was fun. Those are heavy machines and what he did tonight shouldn't be taken lightly.

God bless you, TP199!!
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500guy wrote:
Pastrana is the ultimate showman no doubt about it.

He even learned the sitting down rag doll jump style that Evel had.
JAFO92 wrote:
You know, I think thats just how it ends up going when hucking heavy V-twins like that. If it looked like that for Travis, ole Evel...
You know, I think thats just how it ends up going when hucking heavy V-twins like that. If it looked like that for Travis, ole Evel was doing pretty good considering those clunky old XRs and Triumph twins he was riding.

Now Kaptain Robbie? He has no excuse for looking like a goon. Sooooo glad they kept him off that show.
Thing with Evel was, he did it before anyone else.
It was unknown territory.
Plus, no radar guns checking speed, no math formulas of hp divided by speed, wind resistance, distance blah blah blah.
That he was a Champion Ski Jumper in his youth must have helped, but heck.
He showed up, looked it over, and went for it.

Lot to be said for that.
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MX-Files wrote:
Guys, Any 3 hour TV special involving motorcycling is good for motorcycling, motorcycle sales, TV production about motorcycles, etc. etc. Cheer History Channel, TP and everyone...
Guys,
Any 3 hour TV special involving motorcycling is good for motorcycling, motorcycle sales, TV production about motorcycles, etc. etc. Cheer History Channel, TP and everyone involved.

We need Motorcycle TV heroes!
APLMAN99 wrote:
My wife never watches racing, but she watched this event and enjoyed it. Obviously it was basically a publicity stunt for the new Nitro Circus Vegas...
My wife never watches racing, but she watched this event and enjoyed it.

Obviously it was basically a publicity stunt for the new Nitro Circus Vegas residency, and almost turned into an Indian Motorcycles infomercial, but it was still pretty fun to watch!
motogrady wrote:
Yeah Aple.... That's what the core guys here just can't get. My girlfriend got sucked right in also. She actually enjoyed it. She's one of the...
Yeah Aple.... That's what the core guys here just can't get. My girlfriend got sucked right in also.
She actually enjoyed it.
She's one of the masses.
This might have been weak or gay to the bad dudes here.
But, watch and see how weak this is, ratings wise, compared to, let's say, last weeks Red Bud.

That some don't understand how and why it happened, and what it meant to motorcycling in general, eh, let them figure it out .
Yeah, it was just good, clean, family style entertainment like back when I was a kid and we'd all have to watch the single TV that we had in the house.

I actually thought that it was kind of a genius move to bring out all of the History Channel's Vegas show characters for little cameos during the down times. And none of them were so corny that they really embarrassed themselves or anything.

Not sure why folks are comparing it to the racing broadcasts and grumbling. They are pretty different events, and people bitch about the breakout segments that they do on the race broadcasts enough as it is. Imagine the coronaries they'd have if they had the guys from Pawn Stars on for 10 minutes every week!!!!!!!

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7/8/2018 9:20pm
Best part was him high fiving fans ripping wheelies and doing burnouts on the way to the fountain, legendary.
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best part of the whole night. Product placement at it's finest. The History Channel Executives must of pooped purple turtles when this keep rolling by during the broadcast
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7/8/2018 9:29pm Edited Date/Time 7/8/2018 9:33pm
APLMAN99 wrote:
My wife never watches racing, but she watched this event and enjoyed it. Obviously it was basically a publicity stunt for the new Nitro Circus Vegas...
My wife never watches racing, but she watched this event and enjoyed it.

Obviously it was basically a publicity stunt for the new Nitro Circus Vegas residency, and almost turned into an Indian Motorcycles infomercial, but it was still pretty fun to watch!
motogrady wrote:
Yeah Aple.... That's what the core guys here just can't get. My girlfriend got sucked right in also. She actually enjoyed it. She's one of the...
Yeah Aple.... That's what the core guys here just can't get. My girlfriend got sucked right in also.
She actually enjoyed it.
She's one of the masses.
This might have been weak or gay to the bad dudes here.
But, watch and see how weak this is, ratings wise, compared to, let's say, last weeks Red Bud.

That some don't understand how and why it happened, and what it meant to motorcycling in general, eh, let them figure it out .
APLMAN99 wrote:
Yeah, it was just good, clean, family style entertainment like back when I was a kid and we'd all have to watch the single TV that...
Yeah, it was just good, clean, family style entertainment like back when I was a kid and we'd all have to watch the single TV that we had in the house.

I actually thought that it was kind of a genius move to bring out all of the History Channel's Vegas show characters for little cameos during the down times. And none of them were so corny that they really embarrassed themselves or anything.

Not sure why folks are comparing it to the racing broadcasts and grumbling. They are pretty different events, and people bitch about the breakout segments that they do on the race broadcasts enough as it is. Imagine the coronaries they'd have if they had the guys from Pawn Stars on for 10 minutes every week!!!!!!!

Cool
It was very reminiscent of when I was just a young lad, winding the crank on that unstable red launching device and sending little Evel airborne after it got too dark to ride my YZ80. (That's right, 80, not 85 dadnabit!)

And moreover of those rare weekends when Wide World of Sports might feature EK, god forbid the agony of defeat as a result instead of the thrill of victory.

I liked it. Reminded me of being 7, which was nice. Had nice parallels of a young Robert Craig Knievel who managed to carve out his own legend and the young phenom who would show astonishing skills as a very young man, win a national motocross title, and grow into an international icon.

Were the jumps practiced and perhaps relatively easy for someone of his phenomenal skills?

Perhaps.

Would you, personally, really have lined up that fountain jump on your blinged out thoroughly modern 450 that has never seen the far side of a 90 foot jump? Really? Oh, you'd send your kid out to do it on his 65? Well... yeah. Easy peasy.

Lotta heroes that never made it out of the C class up in here.

Lotta naysayers not seeing the value in dad-gummed motorcycle jumping featured as a lead-in to a internal combustion-centric week of programming on a relatively major television channel.

Evel was a bad dude in his day. Pastrana is a bad dude in this day. And if you're one of the dudes bored with this -- yeah, it had its slow moments and forced drama, whatever -- you're not my kind of dude.

Cool.


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Man you wonder if EK had the technology , the data there is today , what might he had done. Not taking anything away from TP, they both are wired different then 99.9 % of the rest of the world. No practice jumps , ramps looked like they went to Home Depot a couple days earlier and threw it together. TP should have at least had a bobble on a landing or something.
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olds cool wrote:
Nailed it of course!

Now please retire Travis.
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He said he's not done yet.
He will be soon. Said he is backing down his involvement in the craziness going on and putting Pastranaland up for sale before he gets somebody killed.
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That was entertaining as hell. Something about that format is cool.
Evel's fountain jump was longer- check the vid of the original. 'Course he didn't make it.
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Can’t believe they didn’t mention it being the biggest seat bounce in motorcycle history. That was my favorite part - seeing him jump the two like Evel would!!!
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just James wrote:
How long before Indian comes out with a special edition, painted just like Travis' bike?
If it takes them as long, as it takes them to post some pictures on their media platform... Damn long!
7/9/2018 9:50am
Pretty Lame. Fed viewers 90% bullshit for 3hrs (thank goodness for DVR fast-fw) so Travis could jump the same distances Evel did 50 yrs ago? Months of engineering tech on the Motorcycle(s), precision assembly and testing of the ramps, equipment.

Evel prepared with a 1/2 bottle of Wild Turkey, combed his hair and checked there was air in his tires.
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7/9/2018 9:55am
Travis jumped further on the two that allowed it. There is less room around the fountain than when Evil did it making it impossible to go further. Gotta laugh at the people trying to downplay it. Travis didn't come up with this big plan to show how awesome he is. He did it for a check. Anyone who thinks jumping an Indian 192' is no big deal doesn't have a very good grasp on reality.
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RiverockMX wrote:
Pretty Lame. Fed viewers 90% bullshit for 3hrs (thank goodness for DVR fast-fw) so Travis could jump the same distances Evel did 50 yrs ago? Months...
Pretty Lame. Fed viewers 90% bullshit for 3hrs (thank goodness for DVR fast-fw) so Travis could jump the same distances Evel did 50 yrs ago? Months of engineering tech on the Motorcycle(s), precision assembly and testing of the ramps, equipment.

Evel prepared with a 1/2 bottle of Wild Turkey, combed his hair and checked there was air in his tires.
If I was Pastrana I would've calculated if it was possible to do four jumps. The three that he did and then jumping the "Caesars Palance fountain" at his longest. From left to right, the Indian bike has enough power to do it, Travis has enough skill.

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7/9/2018 10:01am Edited Date/Time 7/9/2018 10:01am
The "WILL HE SURVIVE" thing was obnoxious. No disrespect to Evil, but Pastrana is light years ahead of where he was on two wheels. I had absolutely no doubt in my mind TP was going to nail all 3 without any issues. The announcer panicking over the "HARD IMPACT" on the first landing made me laugh.
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Just embarrassing to watch really.
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7/9/2018 10:19am Edited Date/Time 7/9/2018 10:23am
Man, some of you guys would find fault if Christ came before you..And yes, I fully expect some comments on that as well.

This was an homage to his idol. No reason for finding fault in everything.And yes TP is ultra talented but part of the allure of it is keeping it as close to the original stunt as possible. It gave me chills to see him in the Evel suit. But hey, that's me.

I had several people who don't give a crap about dirt bikes say it was cool and I thought all the Evel footage was great. Brought me back to my childhood.
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Pastrana and the History crew did exactly what and how Evel would have done it. This was not a motocross or supercross race. It was a show for people who 40 or 50 years ago would have been watching Wide World of Sports to see Evel Kneivel jump his motorcycle. In that I think they were successful.
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I watched all 3 hours of it and being a kid back when Evel was doing these jumps brought back many memories of the times.

I have to say it was very accurate even the hype , the only difference was I knew Travis would make it no problem.

Back in the day Evel crashing or being extremely sketchy was a given.
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500guy wrote:
I watched all 3 hours of it and being a kid back when Evel was doing these jumps brought back many memories of the times. I...
I watched all 3 hours of it and being a kid back when Evel was doing these jumps brought back many memories of the times.

I have to say it was very accurate even the hype , the only difference was I knew Travis would make it no problem.

Back in the day Evel crashing or being extremely sketchy was a given.
Spot on.
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500guy wrote:
I watched all 3 hours of it and being a kid back when Evel was doing these jumps brought back many memories of the times. I...
I watched all 3 hours of it and being a kid back when Evel was doing these jumps brought back many memories of the times.

I have to say it was very accurate even the hype , the only difference was I knew Travis would make it no problem.

Back in the day Evel crashing or being extremely sketchy was a given.
flatout111 wrote:
Spot on.
Ditto, same here. Im 54 and was sitting directly in front of our families sole black & white TV when Evel did most of his jumps - it really was a BIG deal back then. (mom and dad were on the couch because in those days the whole family watched). I enjoyed the entire thing and appreciate all the sponsors who ponied up cash to make the event possible. Anyone who cant see how cool that all was, no amount of explaining will suffice. If I have to explain, you wont understand.
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I do wish they would have gone over to the bar at Ceasers to interview Robbie.
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