Ready for a Chinese 250 2-Stroke MX'er?

2 Trick Rick
Edited Date/Time 4/20/2019 7:21pm
Sorry, but the engine needed to be fuzzed out. But its basically a Husky (KTM) roller with a 250cc 2-Stroke engine. The manufacture builds the these motors for a O.E.M. so parts and quality should be as good as any OEM. It's not a "Race" engine but can be made to put out H.P. you like.. think enduro power plant.

This sport needs a fun entry level machine .. could this be it? I don't have the answer, but figured I would share the pic

125cc MSRP 4100.00 USD
250cc MSRP 4800.00 USD
300cc MSRP 5500.00 USD



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yz133rider 3/16/2018 7:58am
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I like it. Mxa will test one and hate the glue used for the grips and be unable to get past that.
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“It's not a "Race" engine but can be made to put out H.P. you like.. think enduro power plant.”

As a enduro rider I am triggered.
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So many things wrong I literally don't know where to start.
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Sheriff245 3/16/2018 8:15am
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Personally I think that's great news, but I suspect many complaining about bikes being too expensive will bad mouth this one because it's not competitive or not as durable or...

I hope I'm wrong though.
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I love Chinas ability to just not GAF and copy anything that is out there, throw some other name on stuff and then sell it without regard to anything. From toasters to US stealth drones, tanks, and now KTM/Husky... shit look at the calipers on that thing they look identical to Brembos!
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Nice ,I'll have to go to Pep boys and check them out.
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smit9722 3/16/2018 8:24am
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Sounds awesome especially since my 2 stroke is a woods bike.
mattyhamz2 3/16/2018 8:25am
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If this is the real deal, I can only imagine how many I will see in the desert. I believe they will be everywhere. Now dad can go and buy him and Jr each a brand new bike for the price of just one for dad. The desert family that goes riding 5-6 times a year will eat these up.
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Sexy Ohlins pipe on that thing.
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Don't leave me stranded China
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kb228 3/16/2018 8:36am
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And for $5000 you can get last years used model and it will still be safer to ride than that shit.
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Wheres Ping when you need him?
Hope those does better than the Tornado...

Tornado article

A good laugh!
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Motofinne 3/16/2018 8:39am
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Looks promising as a bike for the woods and trails.

MX? I don't know. I think it would be sketchy. I would not jump 25-30 meter long tabletops on a Chinese bike. Not because it comes from China, only because of lack of knowledge about the reliability of the frame, wheels etc.
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yz133rider 3/16/2018 8:41am
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kb228 wrote:
And for $5000 you can get last years used model and it will still be safer to ride than that shit.
No reason yamahas yz125 and yz250 cant be sold for those prices considering 0 dollars has been spent on development, retooling, testing, etc in 13 freaking years.
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bvm111 wrote:
I love Chinas ability to just not GAF and copy anything that is out there, throw some other name on stuff and then sell it without...
I love Chinas ability to just not GAF and copy anything that is out there, throw some other name on stuff and then sell it without regard to anything. From toasters to US stealth drones, tanks, and now KTM/Husky... shit look at the calipers on that thing they look identical to Brembos!
This documentary really explains that whole mentality really well. Im not saying anything about the morality or the better legal framework or whatever, but it really helped me understand why things are like that there. It's really strange but kind of cool.
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kb228 3/16/2018 8:59am
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kb228 wrote:
And for $5000 you can get last years used model and it will still be safer to ride than that shit.
yz133rider wrote:
No reason yamahas yz125 and yz250 cant be sold for those prices considering 0 dollars has been spent on development, retooling, testing, etc in 13 freaking...
No reason yamahas yz125 and yz250 cant be sold for those prices considering 0 dollars has been spent on development, retooling, testing, etc in 13 freaking years.
As a tool desinger i can say with 100% certainty theyve replaced tools in 13 years. Not that they cost a whole lot. Also you need to think of rising material & utility costs too.
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.kyle 3/16/2018 9:06am
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Ufff...a chinese bike? No thanks. Would rather have nothing at all.
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Bruce372 3/16/2018 9:09am
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Aren't we supposed to be making America great again? How come we aren't building these in the Midwest?
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I can hear the clunking sounds all the way from China.

Pass.
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yz133rider 3/16/2018 9:17am
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kb228 wrote:
And for $5000 you can get last years used model and it will still be safer to ride than that shit.
yz133rider wrote:
No reason yamahas yz125 and yz250 cant be sold for those prices considering 0 dollars has been spent on development, retooling, testing, etc in 13 freaking...
No reason yamahas yz125 and yz250 cant be sold for those prices considering 0 dollars has been spent on development, retooling, testing, etc in 13 freaking years.
kb228 wrote:
As a tool desinger i can say with 100% certainty theyve replaced tools in 13 years. Not that they cost a whole lot. Also you need...
As a tool desinger i can say with 100% certainty theyve replaced tools in 13 years. Not that they cost a whole lot. Also you need to think of rising material & utility costs too.
You know what i mean though. Massive savings in overhead compared to the 4 strokes development testing etc over the same 13 years and prices climbed steadily right along side of them.
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bayodome 3/16/2018 9:24am
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Bruce372 wrote:
Aren't we supposed to be making America great again? How come we aren't building these in the Midwest?
Because it will cost 3 times as much.
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Mr. Sandman 3/16/2018 9:51am
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It's nothing more than a crappy, full size pit bike.
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Kennyfreemoney 3/16/2018 9:59am
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I'd take one as a loaner bike! Let me buddies ride it when they're in town.
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Motofinne 3/16/2018 10:01am
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yz133rider wrote:
No reason yamahas yz125 and yz250 cant be sold for those prices considering 0 dollars has been spent on development, retooling, testing, etc in 13 freaking...
No reason yamahas yz125 and yz250 cant be sold for those prices considering 0 dollars has been spent on development, retooling, testing, etc in 13 freaking years.
kb228 wrote:
As a tool desinger i can say with 100% certainty theyve replaced tools in 13 years. Not that they cost a whole lot. Also you need...
As a tool desinger i can say with 100% certainty theyve replaced tools in 13 years. Not that they cost a whole lot. Also you need to think of rising material & utility costs too.
yz133rider wrote:
You know what i mean though. Massive savings in overhead compared to the 4 strokes development testing etc over the same 13 years and prices climbed...
You know what i mean though. Massive savings in overhead compared to the 4 strokes development testing etc over the same 13 years and prices climbed steadily right along side of them.
Yeah compare the amount of R&D KTM has put towards their 2 strokes and the prices.

The KTM is only a few hundred bucks more expensive. I think the SX 125 was 200€ more expensive than the YZ 125 here in Finland.

Either KTM are losing money on their 2 strokes or Yamaha are making a lot from them. Yamaha can put what ever price they want on their bikes, people obviously buy them otherwise they wouldn't sell them for that price. But i'm sure they could drop the price on the YZ 125/250 and still make money on them. That would also attract even more potential buyers.

It's just funny in my mind that so many people see the prices of the bikes as a problem(and i agree) in our sport, yet a manufacturer is basically selling 13 year old bikes for the same price as an other brand sells their 2 year old bikes. It is a pity, the YZ 125 and 250 in their current form could be a fantastic entry level bike.
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Bruce372 3/16/2018 10:08am
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Bruce372 wrote:
Aren't we supposed to be making America great again? How come we aren't building these in the Midwest?
bayodome wrote:
Because it will cost 3 times as much.
i thought the country voted in the people that were all about removing the minimum wage, and work place regulations? Surely if we do that, someone can setup sweatshops in Wisconsin to make cheap dirtbikes?
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Donovan759 3/16/2018 10:09am
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Chinese bikes are great if you're willing to risk your life to save a few thousand. I'll stick to what I know. Thanks.
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Asimo 3/16/2018 10:14am
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YouTube has the enduro-strret legal version video
2 Trick Rick 3/16/2018 10:21am
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Bruce372 wrote:
Aren't we supposed to be making America great again? How come we aren't building these in the Midwest?
bayodome wrote:
Because it will cost 3 times as much.
Bruce372 wrote:
i thought the country voted in the people that were all about removing the minimum wage, and work place regulations? Surely if we do that, someone...
i thought the country voted in the people that were all about removing the minimum wage, and work place regulations? Surely if we do that, someone can setup sweatshops in Wisconsin to make cheap dirtbikes?


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2 Trick Rick 3/16/2018 10:25am
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Buckit wrote:
More pictures/ Video... https://www.facebook.com/pitster1/
More pictures/ Video...

https://www.facebook.com/pitster1/

That does sound like the 125cc Bike.

I'm not suggesting these bike will replace full on moto bikes like the CRF250R/450R's and have the gates packed. But it could get family's ridding and once they start riding maybe they will say "lets go to the track" and if they enjoy that and want to try racing they will have to step up and buy a CRF/KXF/YZF.. etc..

The sport is getting pretty pricey from what it was 20 years ago.

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