RV wouldn't do it again

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I think taking one quote, or a few clips from a documentary and broad-brushing RV's career with it is a bit short-sighted. As fierce and determined as RV was/is, there was real beauty, and, I'm sure, real joy in the way he rode. He may well have hated much of the grind and the pressure, but he rode in a manner that, to my mind, requires a deep love of the act itself. To reach that level at any endeavor requires heavy sacrifices, and you know he made a ton of them, but so do most folks who take their career seriously. Life is like that. I have nothin' but respect for the guy, and I'm grateful to have seen him preform magic on the Kawasaki on many occasions. When he went to Europe to go after the MXGP title I couldn't have been more psyched, and I sincerely hope he's enjoying life post moto.
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2/7/2018 4:28pm
I would take MC's era over today's any day , now those boys had fun .
2/7/2018 4:57pm
slow down. they wont hire you. then you wont have to.
I know I know. I understand I just tire of when its over people can make a stand ,lol.
he could've retired long before he did.
he just always acted like he was a prisoner and wanted sympathy.
loved to watch him rip it though.
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2/7/2018 5:02pm
twotwosix wrote:
It's easy for a multi-millionare to say that. No perspective.
BobbyM wrote:
Yer a dick, no amount of money will change that.
I agree
People that haven't been broke or struggled financially
Sometimes don't have a different perspective

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When you have family and friends at home and you are on the road and away from them more than you are there it changes the...
When you have family and friends at home and you are on the road and away from them more than you are there it changes the way you appreciate home life. I drive truck and I'm away from my wife and daughter 20 to 25 days a month. I make good money but I'm not happy doing it. If I made the money Ryan did I still wouldn't be happy. Nothing can replace the feeling of missing your family.
haydos25 wrote:
True. Difference is he's now in his early 30's reasonably healthy and enough cash to spend every day with his family and kids and live a...
True. Difference is he's now in his early 30's reasonably healthy and enough cash to spend every day with his family and kids and live a comfortable life without ever lifting a finger if he doesn't want to.

Its easy for him to say i wouldn't do it again now that he's done it. But if his alternative was 20-25 days a month in a truck away from his family for the next 20 years of his life would he take that instead? My guess is no.
BobbyM wrote:
Difference is you chose that life quit yer bitchin
I'm not bitching. I'm talking from experience of road life. It's not a normal life. Ryan dungey is the best example of this. One summer at home for the first time in 10 years and he retires next season. He got a taste of normality. These guys do this job 24/7 to be the best. Most people do 8-12 hours a day and go home to there family. Other thing is they have done there work for the last 20 years of their lives. Top level guys are doing this grind when they are 4 years old.
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twotwosix wrote:
It's easy for a multi-millionare to say that. No perspective.
Exactly what I thought.

Put him on a building site for 6 months in winter, living in a 3 bedroom house with a huge mortgage, car repayments and tell him this is it for the next 20 years, he might change his mind.
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2/7/2018 6:14pm
Some of you guys have absolutely no clue what it takes to ride and compete at that level.

The guys at the top work harder than 95% of the general population does at their job. Period. That doesn't even factor in the risk. It ain't all rosey like some of you want to fantasize it is. It's HARD WORK.

Those of you bitching and saying "try this job or that job or this for 60 hours a week" you too have a choice, do something to change your situation so you don't have to do that.

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2/7/2018 6:15pm Edited Date/Time 2/7/2018 6:16pm
OP needs to go watch Ryan Villopoto story of a champion ( or maybe pay better attention if that's what you were watching) and delete this thread
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2/7/2018 6:16pm
Years and years of getting the shit kicked out of you mentally and physically from a young age....RV and pops struggled with each other quite a bit, and it's well documented.

Take the video below for example. RV is all of 13 in this video, and at the 2 minute mark you see him laying on the side of the track (wind knocked out of him)....the following fram you can see pops yell something at him and then walk away, meanwhile RVs mom has to keep distance between the 2 of em....it's a short moment in the video, but that's a pretty hardcore attitude to have towards your kid who was laid out 30 seconds prior
https://youtu.be/PsEiqvCs270

I 100% believe if RV wasn't as good as he was, he woulda quit years ago
2/7/2018 6:33pm Edited Date/Time 2/7/2018 6:33pm
People would be surprised by how many athlete's don't enjoy themselves.

For us average working Joe's we can go to work and once its over for the day we can switch off, after a working week we can go out drink/party etc with no consequences.

These athletes already live in a stress filled environment, they can't even let off steam by having a good night out because they will be scrutinized in the media, cameras constantly following them around, the constant sponsorship pushing, the constant PR work.. It's a 24/7 days a week job.

Then people wonder why these athletes/famous people go crazy and we average Joe's sit back ignorantly and say "with all that money how can you do stupid shit/not be happy".

Money aint the cure.
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LungButter wrote:
Some of you guys have absolutely no clue what it takes to ride and compete at that level. The guys at the top work harder than...
Some of you guys have absolutely no clue what it takes to ride and compete at that level.

The guys at the top work harder than 95% of the general population does at their job. Period. That doesn't even factor in the risk. It ain't all rosey like some of you want to fantasize it is. It's HARD WORK.

Those of you bitching and saying "try this job or that job or this for 60 hours a week" you too have a choice, do something to change your situation so you don't have to do that.

Kind of missed the point.

I said "Put him on a building site for 6 months in winter, living in a 3 bedroom house with a huge mortgage, car repayments and tell him this is it for the next 20 years, he might change his mind."

I don't work on a building site and I don't have a mortgage/loan on any of my properties or vehicles, that wasn't my point at all. The point is, he is retired at 30 as a multi millionaire. To reach that point at that age, I would expect to have to work extremely hard in those early years and make sacrifices. He worked hard and he got the rewards and I totally respect that.

But to then sit back in your huge farm with your million dollar bank account and say "I wouldn't do it again" is nuts. If he didn't do it he wouldn't have what he has now. Is he seriously saying he'd rather have worked a 9-5 and be looking at another 30 years of that before retirement, so he could have avoided making those sacrifices earlier? Does he think he wouldn't have made any sacrifices had he gone that route? It would have been a bed of roses had he not rode MX and retired at 30?

I think he lacks a bit of perspective about how things might have been for him without MX, which is totally understandable because he's never lived that life.
2/7/2018 6:47pm Edited Date/Time 2/7/2018 6:50pm
I think taking one quote, or a few clips from a documentary and broad-brushing RV's career with it is a bit short-sighted. As fierce and determined...
I think taking one quote, or a few clips from a documentary and broad-brushing RV's career with it is a bit short-sighted. As fierce and determined as RV was/is, there was real beauty, and, I'm sure, real joy in the way he rode. He may well have hated much of the grind and the pressure, but he rode in a manner that, to my mind, requires a deep love of the act itself. To reach that level at any endeavor requires heavy sacrifices, and you know he made a ton of them, but so do most folks who take their career seriously. Life is like that. I have nothin' but respect for the guy, and I'm grateful to have seen him preform magic on the Kawasaki on many occasions. When he went to Europe to go after the MXGP title I couldn't have been more psyched, and I sincerely hope he's enjoying life post moto.
"he rode in a manner that, to my mind, requires a deep love of the act itself"

I can see how you might think that, but in my opinion when you have a competitive mindset I don't think you have to like what you're doing at all to be able to get really damn good at it.
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He has nothing to compare it too. In 2013 he made at least 3.8 million in win bonsus from Kwai 18 wins + two titles. Plus at least 2 million from Kawi for his salary at least. Thats about 6 million there on the low end plus another million from from his head to toe gear deal. That's 7 million in one year just from 2013 alone from Kawi and parts unlimited. He has no idea what it's like to try and make that kind of money in a lifetime much less from two companies in one year. Sounds good when he says it but with a different life in front of him with even 200k a year he would never do it. He retired at 27! I hope you hated your job, you only had to do 10 years instead of 35+!
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It makes me glad that I didn't have a dad to get me to the races. I still love motorcycles and don't regret spending all the money I could make doing it on my own. I remember being at Muddy Creek way back there and being pitted next to a young pro from PA. He must have really loved his dad or, been really scared of him. I couldn't have taken it. I felt sorry for him.
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Park Boys wrote:
He has nothing to compare it too. In 2013 he made at least 3.8 million in win bonsus from Kwai 18 wins + two titles. Plus...
He has nothing to compare it too. In 2013 he made at least 3.8 million in win bonsus from Kwai 18 wins + two titles. Plus at least 2 million from Kawi for his salary at least. Thats about 6 million there on the low end plus another million from from his head to toe gear deal. That's 7 million in one year just from 2013 alone from Kawi and parts unlimited. He has no idea what it's like to try and make that kind of money in a lifetime much less from two companies in one year. Sounds good when he says it but with a different life in front of him with even 200k a year he would never do it. He retired at 27! I hope you hated your job, you only had to do 10 years instead of 35+!
^^^
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2/7/2018 8:03pm
I loved racing and when my two boys wanted to start riding they each got a new bike and they learned how to ride. I never pushed them, I wanted them to have fun ....
And they did. My youngest surprised me, he would stand by the track at say a double he wanted to jump and watched what everyone was doing. Then he went out and jumped it. He was 14 months younger than his brother. The day I took the training wheels off my oldest sons bicycle and taught him how to ride it, my youngest was watching and listening the whole time. Later that day, I walk outside and he goes riding by with on his brothers bike with no training wheels. Wth?? Their first bikes were little pw 80’s and the youngest took off riding it by himself quicker than his brother...
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2/7/2018 10:18pm Edited Date/Time 2/7/2018 10:19pm
Park Boys wrote:
He has nothing to compare it too. In 2013 he made at least 3.8 million in win bonsus from Kwai 18 wins + two titles. Plus...
He has nothing to compare it too. In 2013 he made at least 3.8 million in win bonsus from Kwai 18 wins + two titles. Plus at least 2 million from Kawi for his salary at least. Thats about 6 million there on the low end plus another million from from his head to toe gear deal. That's 7 million in one year just from 2013 alone from Kawi and parts unlimited. He has no idea what it's like to try and make that kind of money in a lifetime much less from two companies in one year. Sounds good when he says it but with a different life in front of him with even 200k a year he would never do it. He retired at 27! I hope you hated your job, you only had to do 10 years instead of 35+!
Flip109 wrote:
^^^
No offense to you boys but some things are more important than money. People with money realize that more than people without money.

I absolutely believe that he would have done something else if he had the choice, retroactively.

No matter what RV did he would have been the best at it, think about that.
2/7/2018 10:29pm
Park Boys wrote:
He has nothing to compare it too. In 2013 he made at least 3.8 million in win bonsus from Kwai 18 wins + two titles. Plus...
He has nothing to compare it too. In 2013 he made at least 3.8 million in win bonsus from Kwai 18 wins + two titles. Plus at least 2 million from Kawi for his salary at least. Thats about 6 million there on the low end plus another million from from his head to toe gear deal. That's 7 million in one year just from 2013 alone from Kawi and parts unlimited. He has no idea what it's like to try and make that kind of money in a lifetime much less from two companies in one year. Sounds good when he says it but with a different life in front of him with even 200k a year he would never do it. He retired at 27! I hope you hated your job, you only had to do 10 years instead of 35+!
Flip109 wrote:
^^^
KB221 wrote:
No offense to you boys but some things are more important than money. People with money realize that more than people without money. I absolutely believe...
No offense to you boys but some things are more important than money. People with money realize that more than people without money.

I absolutely believe that he would have done something else if he had the choice, retroactively.

No matter what RV did he would have been the best at it, think about that.
You're insane.
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Stress, hard work, pain. Being a professional MX racer is not nearly as glamorous as most seem to think. They work harder than any of us.
And reap rewards far better than most of us. You cant just take the good without the bad no matter what you do... So ill ask this would you trade places, knowing what it takes? Of course you would so dont try and make out its a harder life..
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KB221 wrote:
No offense to you boys but some things are more important than money. People with money realize that more than people without money. I absolutely believe...
No offense to you boys but some things are more important than money. People with money realize that more than people without money.

I absolutely believe that he would have done something else if he had the choice, retroactively.

No matter what RV did he would have been the best at it, think about that.
Yeah he would have starred in the nba or nfl...lol give us break, sure he has problems to, but not of the scale of putting food on the table or paying rent,.
Cant beleive people are defending a highly successful very wealthy sportsman like he some charity case cause his family had troubles.
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make1go wrote:
Yeah he would have starred in the nba or nfl...lol give us break, sure he has problems to, but not of the scale of putting food...
Yeah he would have starred in the nba or nfl...lol give us break, sure he has problems to, but not of the scale of putting food on the table or paying rent,.
Cant beleive people are defending a highly successful very wealthy sportsman like he some charity case cause his family had troubles.
I'm not talking about starring in other sports, some people make millions of dollars every year with only a high school education in many other industries.

I don't need to give you a break but I will try to make you understand. What RV said is, I would do something else, RV would have made millions at real estate or development or trucking or whatever else he may have done and had a normal relationship with his family. He would rather that, looking back.

This is only my opinion.
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2/7/2018 11:58pm
Also rv was working with his buddy doing asphalt and he opened the coffee shop. He bought a track and equipment. He's legitimately trying to be a normal person and fulfill his dreams.
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haydos25 wrote:
No bitching on my part. More pointing out that RV is claiming that he wouldn't do it all again without having any real understanding of what...
No bitching on my part. More pointing out that RV is claiming that he wouldn't do it all again without having any real understanding of what the alternative is like. I'm living the life he said he would've chosen and i'm here to tell him its not as amazing and stress free as he imagines.

By the same token i don't have an understanding of what he has gone through either. I guess the lesson really is that the grass isn't always greener
That last part about the greener grass says it all.
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2/8/2018 5:53am
Nobody likes their job. Period.
I don't know about that. I have a feeling MC loved his. K-Dub loved his. RC loved his. CR obviously loves his.
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jj welks wrote:
OP needs to go watch Ryan Villopoto story of a champion ( or maybe pay better attention if that's what you were watching) and delete this...
OP needs to go watch Ryan Villopoto story of a champion ( or maybe pay better attention if that's what you were watching) and delete this thread
Do tell what I missed. I have never heard a past champion sound like he regretted being a MX and SX Champion the way RV sounded. Why should I delete my post for asking? I'm a big RV fan, I'm just surprised while sitting on millions and never has to work again would say he wouldn't do it again. And did he get to explore all the places he's been? Probably not but he's got to see and "explore" more places than I have been able to do.
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Mo’ money, mo’ problems
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Nobody likes their job. Period.
True.

Better hate your job for 15 years while claiming multiple MX titles and retire a millionaire at 30, than hate your job for 45 years and retire at 65 with an average pension though, right?

Deep down he knows he’s a very lucky guy. Probably just an ill thought out comment in an interview trying to explain how tough it was.
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2/8/2018 8:04am Edited Date/Time 2/8/2018 8:04am
I think this video only scratches the surface of everything that went on, but it makes you understand him more. I gained a lot more respect for RV after this documentary. His family was literally torn apart for years.

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2/8/2018 8:24am
There's an old saying that I used to hear which is....
If you don't understand what someone is going through then "try walking a mile in their shoes".
I've seen and heard enough regarding RV and his career to grasp why he would make such a statement. So the only thing that I really have to say about it is... I understand.

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