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Leave the racing for the rest of us that watch racing for the racing. If the grid girls show up, fine. If they don't, they don't. No fucking difference. I'm sure they're all so devastated that they'll have to find another place to pretend to act interested in drunk douchebags that hit on them. What a shame.
It's a free market, if these organizations wanted to continue to employ grid girls in face of pressure to exclude them, they could. But they don't, and that's their business decision. God forbid they try to appeal to demographics other than the 18-45 white male! Blasphemy!
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(Grid Girl) Lucy Stokes posted to Twitter saying, “I love my job. I’m respected, paid well & proud to represent the team I’m working for. It’s not right for anyone, let alone ‘feminists’ to judge our job when quite frankly they are putting so many women out of work. Where is the equality & empowerment here?”'
http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/grid-girls-speak-formula-1s-decision-ban/s…
For the Nth time; assuming someone against eliminating these jobs due to political pressure is a drunk douchebag is naive to say the least. Not everyone has the same opinion on things, and that's OK. But attacking them for it isn't.
Maybe I should clarify. I'm not overly bothered by grid girls being a part of F1 or Monster girls being a part of SX. I wouldn't personally employ them if I were running the show, but I'm not and I generally don't give a fuck. What really does bother me as how dudes act in their presence. The overwhelming majority of guys I see harassing the promo girls would have no business talking to said girls the way they do in any other setting. Yet once they're paid to parade themselves around like mannequins, guys suddenly find themselves talking down and acting very inappropriately. It's creepy and weird. When some 55 year old guy is zooming in on his digital camera and snapping pics of promo girls all event long, it's weird and inappropriate. Bottom line. That's not every guy, but the ones that do ruin it.
Having a wife that races, am I upset at the prospect of women being represented differently in Motorsports? Absolutely not. It makes her feel better and more valued, so I'm all for it. Was I calling for the removal of gird/promo girls? Nope. I didn't even think twice about em. But I also wasn't calling for Trump's tax plan, yet here I am, living my life accordingly.
I could understand if some of the reactions were "damn that sucks, I'll miss them" or "well I don't necessarily agree with it but it doesn't really have a meaningful impact". But instead it's (tiki)torches and pitch forks. That is ridiculous, in my opinion. It's not like they took 2 strokes away or anything.
Which brings me to another point, most cultures have evolved in the treatment of women over time, and while everyone has the right to look at them however they want, I don't really believe the SJW's, feminist or any specific group are driving this...maybe it's just time to look at things differently.
Hell, women couldn't even vote until 1920, and in some states black women couldn't vote until 1965. Granted we're not talking about women's suffrage here, but their treatment has changed over time as it should have.
Welcome to 2018 and beyond...at least they haven't taken your topless bars and porn sites away.
Notice anything about the crowd demographics?
And, I’ve been to two ME pit parties and they are fun, classy and fun...fun.
Maybe I’m a closet redneck, I got’s a good job though.
Sure aren’t behaving like the supposed 55 year olds one poster here seems to be preoccupied with.
Or any team for that matter. Not sure how many would actually be watching the races though.
Like I said, most of the people in this thread that are against this move and support these women and there jobs, also have more respect for them. Brownstone suggests that we are fucking pigs and white male supremasists. Yet I believe she refered to the Monster Girls in another post as trashy Ilk.
Anyway, it's been said a hundred times, the issue for most isn't that there won't be pretty girls to see at the races, it's why these positions are being eliminated. It sure isn't race fans that buy tickets that are pushing it. And the idea that it's about society evolving to some better place morally is stupid.
It's an interesting question: Monster dumps tons of money into SX, but maybe they prevent the elusive mainstream sponsors from coming into the sport at the same time. It's been interesting to see NASCAR cover up and tone down their Monster girls, and I'll bet there were some serious negotiations about what they'd wear.
I am all for boobies, but I am fine separating them from my SX. But, it must be a fine needle for Feld to thread between taking Monster $$$ and worrying that it prevents further/future $$$ from coming into the sport.
Times change. It's funny that Hannah had a trophy girl straddling his face back in the day. No sponsor would want to see their brand on his jersey in that picture today. You can't french trophy girls anymore.
Social media has created such a fucked up sense of "self" that I just don't know what the current young generation will become. Socially awkward, and unable to communicate without electronic media I would guess.
Back in the mid to late 90's, my then GF and now wife used to be the "star" of commercials and billboards for a mid-level Vegas casino chain. Then, after our first daughter was born, she got into tech trade shows and was paid incredible money to be a "greeter" at booths for major computer companies at COMDEX and other tech related trade conventions.
She dressed professionally, was in a safe corporate environment, she did not know shit about computers. But she was attractive, smart, and friendly.
So they paid her thousands of dollars, plus flights, hotel, and expenses, to spend a weekend smiling and getting males to stop at their nerd booth. I was (and still am) proud of her for doing those trade shows, and every few years, as a joke, we make her watch the TV commercials we have on DVD of her Vegas days.
What normal male human would not prefer to "interact" with some random sales person who is "hot" versus just seeing some other male or less than "attractive" female?
Hard to understand why people can't just be ok with the fact that humans are humans. Does not make us beasts or freaks. No different than movies, food, scenery, or anything else. You would prefer to watch a good movie, not a shitty one. Eat good food, look at beautiful scenery. Why is it now so wrong to have an attractive female for corporate promotions (and vice versa)? Strange times.
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Real men, real boobs, and real racing. The good old days.
For folks that weren't around this is Linda Vaughn ( miss Hurst shifter ) the unofficial first lady of motor racing. She had looks, she had brains, was well respected as a brand ambassador and PR person for the corporations she worked for. She was a mentor to and looked out for the other young girls as well. Total class act. Sold more product then the best sales reps, and made a 50 year career that started same way as these other young women that some think don't use their brains and have no value to the industry.
You on the other hand said it makes no fucking difference if they work, and that they dress like hookers for a cheap buck. Then make accusations out of thin air ( not anything I posted ) .
Who's being disengenuos ?
No matter. I think they add value to the sport and the economy and i give them credit and respect for the work they do. You don't have to.
some evolve some doesnt
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