Can Jason do it ?

Zycki11
Profile picture for user Zycki11
Posts
7789
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
Edwardsville, IL US
Zycki11 1/14/2018 10:52am
1/14/2018 10:52am Edited Date/Time 1/14/2018 11:01am
Anderson won’t do it. He will get anxious and make a big mistake or two. He has never had to deal with the real pressure of a 450 title. So his aggressiveness is going to subdue him and eat him alive. Kenny will win the title with Barcia 2nd. Barcia is surprisingly consistent when he feels good.
KennyT
Profile picture for user KennyT
Posts
4390
Joined
8/16/2006
Location
Vista, CA US
Fantasy
108th
KennyT 1/14/2018 11:40am
1/14/2018 11:40am
The way the field is thinning I’m thinking Pieck is gonna do it
kiwifan
Profile picture for user kiwifan
Posts
9772
Joined
10/31/2009
Location
CA US
kiwifan 1/14/2018 11:43am
1/14/2018 11:43am
kaidoddragon wrote:
In my eyes, this is THE question after this night of racing. Tomac's out, Musquin's out. The path to this title is open for Jason. Don't...
In my eyes, this is THE question after this night of racing.

Tomac's out, Musquin's out. The path to this title is open for Jason. Don't get me wrong, there's a lot of racing left, I know that. But Jason has the advantage right now, so the big question is, can he keep it on his side ?

What he needs to do now is get away. Gain as many points as possible before Roczen can go 20 min + 1 lap full speed (if he can do that again btw) and before Marvin and / or Eli makes a big come back.

Will he be mentally strong enough to hold that new color on his front plate ?

We'll get the answer soon enough.
you said "..there is a lot of racing left" ...so lets wait for half away through the season before picking a potential winner.
PClaerhout 1/14/2018 12:04pm
1/14/2018 12:04pm Edited Date/Time 1/14/2018 12:04pm
I believe he has a good shot. I think Rozcen has the slight edge, but JA may gain confidence the more he can beat these guys. Getting thirds has to wear on you after awhile...if that feeling leaves he could gain that confidence.

I think MM needed to play the consistency game. He is too weak at the tracks where he can't whoop jump to afford to miss a race, and that's a bummer.

The Shop

See All »
TDeath21
Profile picture for user TDeath21
Posts
6515
Joined
2/22/2011
Location
Somewhere, MO US
TDeath21 1/14/2018 1:37pm
1/14/2018 1:37pm
I mean someone has to. Unless he and Roczen both crash out, one of the two will bring home the hardware.
kiwifan
Profile picture for user kiwifan
Posts
9772
Joined
10/31/2009
Location
CA US
kiwifan 1/14/2018 1:38pm
1/14/2018 1:38pm
PClaerhout wrote:
I believe he has a good shot. I think Rozcen has the slight edge, but JA may gain confidence the more he can beat these guys...
I believe he has a good shot. I think Rozcen has the slight edge, but JA may gain confidence the more he can beat these guys. Getting thirds has to wear on you after awhile...if that feeling leaves he could gain that confidence.

I think MM needed to play the consistency game. He is too weak at the tracks where he can't whoop jump to afford to miss a race, and that's a bummer.
Jason said in the post race conference that he needs to stay cool (or words to that effect), especially when the triple crown races come up. Going to be hard for them doing 3 good starts in shorter mains, bad start = not much time to get through the field
drt410
Profile picture for user drt410
Posts
2075
Joined
3/18/2017
Location
Boston, MA US
drt410 1/14/2018 2:45pm
1/14/2018 2:45pm
Ghost of Jabroni wrote:
Let’s be honest, none of us trust that Ando can keep it together. But we all agree he’s got the best shot he’ll ever have. Barcia...
Let’s be honest, none of us trust that Ando can keep it together. But we all agree he’s got the best shot he’ll ever have.

Barcia is no different. None of us really trust h can keep it together the whole year right? But he is riding fantastic. He rode thru what looked like some setup issues last night to a fantastic finish.

Roczen... what you’re seeing is what you’re gonna get. This is who he is now. The question really is, how long can he handle being 75% of his former self. Heck, he coupd limp this to a title if Barcia & Ando falter.

Moose & Eli... I expect them to come back and win races. Lots of them. It wouldn’t surprise me if this is a 5 way battle going into Vegas.

(Bubba has to be kicking himself right now).
He set the fastest qualifying time race 1, you know when literally everyone was healthy and riding. Hes improved both weeks n hasnt raced in a year. He has a lot more in the tank.
Pedrotbitt
Profile picture for user Pedrotbitt
Posts
38
Joined
4/16/2015
Location
Dee Why, NSW AU
Pedrotbitt 1/14/2018 7:18pm
1/14/2018 7:18pm
Had he not saved that big loop out... Whistling
Ghost of Jabroni 1/14/2018 7:35pm
1/14/2018 7:35pm
Ghost of Jabroni wrote:
Let’s be honest, none of us trust that Ando can keep it together. But we all agree he’s got the best shot he’ll ever have. Barcia...
Let’s be honest, none of us trust that Ando can keep it together. But we all agree he’s got the best shot he’ll ever have.

Barcia is no different. None of us really trust h can keep it together the whole year right? But he is riding fantastic. He rode thru what looked like some setup issues last night to a fantastic finish.

Roczen... what you’re seeing is what you’re gonna get. This is who he is now. The question really is, how long can he handle being 75% of his former self. Heck, he coupd limp this to a title if Barcia & Ando falter.

Moose & Eli... I expect them to come back and win races. Lots of them. It wouldn’t surprise me if this is a 5 way battle going into Vegas.

(Bubba has to be kicking himself right now).
mmcmx wrote:
Man, I hope you are not right about Kenny. I hope he gets back to 100% by 2019, but for this year, yeah, he needs to...
Man, I hope you are not right about Kenny. I hope he gets back to 100% by 2019, but for this year, yeah, he needs to go for the consistency.
I think where I will be wrong is with Moose & Eli. They both might have injuries that cause them to pack it in for the year. Shoulders have a way of lingering.

I hope Im wrong about Kenny. He’s already shown more than what some were telling me during preseason testing. So there’s that.
TeamGreen
Profile picture for user TeamGreen
Posts
36993
Joined
11/25/2008
Location
Thru-out, CA US
TeamGreen 1/14/2018 8:34pm
1/14/2018 8:34pm
I've got a case of Don Julio 1942 that says Jason can do it.
mingham97
Profile picture for user mingham97
Posts
854
Joined
7/16/2013
Location
AU
mingham97 1/14/2018 8:40pm
1/14/2018 8:40pm
crusty_xx wrote:
Musquin is out? He had one dnf but he will probably line up next week right? I wouldn't count him out yet

Dislocated shoulder? I feel like he will need atleast 2 weeks. Tomac bruised his shoulder and missed 2 weeks. We will see i guess
Ted722
Profile picture for user Ted722
Posts
4575
Joined
9/21/2011
Location
Sacramento, CA US
Ted722 1/14/2018 8:48pm
1/14/2018 8:48pm
TeamGreen wrote:
I've got a case of Don Julio 1942 that says Jason can do it.
A case on El Hombre? What's the odds on "can"? Smile
TeamGreen
Profile picture for user TeamGreen
Posts
36993
Joined
11/25/2008
Location
Thru-out, CA US
TeamGreen 1/14/2018 8:51pm
1/14/2018 8:51pm Edited Date/Time 1/14/2018 8:52pm
TeamGreen wrote:
I've got a case of Don Julio 1942 that says Jason can do it.
Ted722 wrote:
A case on El Hombre? What's the odds on "can"? Smile
He wins
He gets the case
Made the bet at dinner on Friday (El Hombré)
drt410
Profile picture for user drt410
Posts
2075
Joined
3/18/2017
Location
Boston, MA US
drt410 1/14/2018 9:39pm
1/14/2018 9:39pm
Kenny is the next rv and rd from this year on. Hes matured and already was faster than dungey. Now that hes cool with podiums its his show.
Prntscrn
Profile picture for user Prntscrn
Posts
1421
Joined
7/16/2015
Location
SE
Prntscrn 1/14/2018 10:46pm
1/14/2018 10:46pm Edited Date/Time 1/14/2018 10:58pm
Lucifa. wrote:
Tonight was Kenny at 80% best. He backed that sucker down when Anderson blew past him. End game.
ATKpilot99 wrote:
80% of where he was before his injury yes. As has already been said he may never get back to where he was . I think...
80% of where he was before his injury yes. As has already been said he may never get back to where he was . I think he will get some wins but the days of him laying 30 seconds on the field may be over. Time will tell. I'm interested to see how he'll look outdoors . Longer tougher races but not the same timing and precision . He may be ready to dominate again there. To answer the op's question for sure Jason has the speed the question is can he eliminate the problems and mistakes that have always been there for him. I'm going to be optimistic and say yes. I hope so at least.
Maybe he will be back 100% maybe he won't. This was his second race since the injury and one thing is for sure, he is not yet at the level he will be for the rest of his career. He'll make lots of improvement, just remains to see if he will reach the same level again or not


As for Jason, sure he can do it. He belongs up there even when they're all healthy
Motofinne
Profile picture for user Motofinne
Posts
11450
Joined
1/4/2014
Location
FI
Motofinne 1/14/2018 10:57pm
1/14/2018 10:57pm Edited Date/Time 1/15/2018 12:29am
He can do it. But i have Roczen as the favorite. It seems like Roczen is in this for the long run, he has been very impressive in my eyes.

Marvin is still in this if he can race A2(i doubt it).
oshow
Profile picture for user oshow
Posts
4083
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
GA US
oshow 1/15/2018 12:27am
1/15/2018 12:27am
kaidoddragon wrote:
In my eyes, this is THE question after this night of racing. Tomac's out, Musquin's out. The path to this title is open for Jason. Don't...
In my eyes, this is THE question after this night of racing.

Tomac's out, Musquin's out. The path to this title is open for Jason. Don't get me wrong, there's a lot of racing left, I know that. But Jason has the advantage right now, so the big question is, can he keep it on his side ?

What he needs to do now is get away. Gain as many points as possible before Roczen can go 20 min + 1 lap full speed (if he can do that again btw) and before Marvin and / or Eli makes a big come back.

Will he be mentally strong enough to hold that new color on his front plate ?

We'll get the answer soon enough.
94 wins this Championship
TopJolr
Profile picture for user TopJolr
Posts
22
Joined
10/13/2013
Location
ZA
TopJolr 1/15/2018 12:30am
1/15/2018 12:30am
every redplate holder this season has gone out with an injured shoulder...lets hope JA21 wears some shoulder pads at A2

Pit Row

See All »
aees
Profile picture for user aees
Posts
2787
Joined
8/20/2015
Location
US
aees 1/15/2018 3:16am
1/15/2018 3:16am
Lucifa. wrote:
Tonight was Kenny at 80% best. He backed that sucker down when Anderson blew past him. End game.
ATKpilot99 wrote:
80% of where he was before his injury yes. As has already been said he may never get back to where he was . I think...
80% of where he was before his injury yes. As has already been said he may never get back to where he was . I think he will get some wins but the days of him laying 30 seconds on the field may be over. Time will tell. I'm interested to see how he'll look outdoors . Longer tougher races but not the same timing and precision . He may be ready to dominate again there. To answer the op's question for sure Jason has the speed the question is can he eliminate the problems and mistakes that have always been there for him. I'm going to be optimistic and say yes. I hope so at least.
Prntscrn wrote:
Maybe he will be back 100% maybe he won't. This was his second race since the injury and one thing is for sure, he is not...
Maybe he will be back 100% maybe he won't. This was his second race since the injury and one thing is for sure, he is not yet at the level he will be for the rest of his career. He'll make lots of improvement, just remains to see if he will reach the same level again or not


As for Jason, sure he can do it. He belongs up there even when they're all healthy
Roczen will go easy for first 3 rounds, maybe even 5 first. You could see him pacing himself. Would not be surprised if he turns it up to round 5 if Anderson wins A2 and round after.

Anderson also show more maturity, should be a good year.
Ted722
Profile picture for user Ted722
Posts
4575
Joined
9/21/2011
Location
Sacramento, CA US
Ted722 1/15/2018 7:17am
1/15/2018 7:17am
TeamGreen wrote:
I've got a case of Don Julio 1942 that says Jason can do it.
Ted722 wrote:
A case on El Hombre? What's the odds on "can"? Smile
TeamGreen wrote:
He wins
He gets the case
Made the bet at dinner on Friday (El Hombré)
And the Finals are on Cinco De Mayo this year...Whistling
gabrielito
Profile picture for user gabrielito
Posts
783
Joined
1/16/2016
Location
Saint Paul, MN US
gabrielito 1/15/2018 9:16am
1/15/2018 9:16am
Ghost of Jabroni wrote:
Let’s be honest, none of us trust that Ando can keep it together. But we all agree he’s got the best shot he’ll ever have. Barcia...
Let’s be honest, none of us trust that Ando can keep it together. But we all agree he’s got the best shot he’ll ever have.

Barcia is no different. None of us really trust h can keep it together the whole year right? But he is riding fantastic. He rode thru what looked like some setup issues last night to a fantastic finish.

Roczen... what you’re seeing is what you’re gonna get. This is who he is now. The question really is, how long can he handle being 75% of his former self. Heck, he coupd limp this to a title if Barcia & Ando falter.

Moose & Eli... I expect them to come back and win races. Lots of them. It wouldn’t surprise me if this is a 5 way battle going into Vegas.

(Bubba has to be kicking himself right now).
I think Roczen will make it to the 82-86% which will be enough to put him on top. He is only going to get stronger and more comfortable.
HonDawg17 1/15/2018 9:23am
1/15/2018 9:23am
This subject? Never go full retard.
peelout
Profile picture for user peelout
Posts
18379
Joined
1/6/2011
Location
Ogden, UT US
peelout 1/15/2018 9:40am
1/15/2018 9:40am
Anderson is a boss and i'm really happy for him to be putting it all together.

i just get the feeling watching him that he is always right on the verge of throwing it away. he rides right on that fine line of out of control.

also, Roczen looks to be riding under his ceiling. he's very smooth and clearly not pushing it. it will be interesting to see if he gets that edge back, but right now it's fast enough to win. great job with that heat win and 2nd in the main. what an amazing comeback.
kiwifan
Profile picture for user kiwifan
Posts
9772
Joined
10/31/2009
Location
CA US
kiwifan 1/15/2018 11:13am
1/15/2018 11:13am
TeamGreen wrote:
I've got a case of Don Julio 1942 that says Jason can do it.
lol I like your positive attitude towards him getting the championship, for me its a little too soon, I want to see how he handles being put under a bit more pressure when Kenny starts pushing it a bit more

I don't think we have seen Kenny racing at 100% yet, and to get 2nd while not 100% (which Jason looked like he was as was Justin) is pretty impressive and smart.
ATKpilot99
Profile picture for user ATKpilot99
Posts
10438
Joined
4/13/2010
Location
Lake Geneva, WI US
ATKpilot99 1/15/2018 11:47am
1/15/2018 11:47am
TeamGreen wrote:
I've got a case of Don Julio 1942 that says Jason can do it.
kiwifan wrote:
lol I like your positive attitude towards him getting the championship, for me its a little too soon, I want to see how he handles being...
lol I like your positive attitude towards him getting the championship, for me its a little too soon, I want to see how he handles being put under a bit more pressure when Kenny starts pushing it a bit more

I don't think we have seen Kenny racing at 100% yet, and to get 2nd while not 100% (which Jason looked like he was as was Justin) is pretty impressive and smart.
Kenny should be the favorite here but seeing the way he holds his arm , I just think it's not clear if he can get back to where he was . But , maybe this season he won't need to.
davistld01
Profile picture for user davistld01
Posts
9271
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
Springfield, MO US
davistld01 1/15/2018 12:42pm
1/15/2018 12:42pm Edited Date/Time 1/15/2018 12:45pm
Yeah, I believe Jason can do it. He's exciting to watch, like peelout says...he always looks a tick away from crashing pretty much all the time. If he can stay on the good side of that line he can do it.

The sad thing is, if he does there will be a 20-page Vital thread with people saying the only reason he won was because Tomac and Musquin were injured.
Detroit Dick
Profile picture for user Detroit Dick
Posts
562
Joined
5/10/2014
Location
Los Angeles, CA US
Detroit Dick 1/15/2018 1:00pm
1/15/2018 1:00pm
Not a chance, @A2 McCarthy handcuffs Webb's GF to the HRC rig, and Cooper wins the championship by ripping off 10 straight main wins and a couple of top 5s...........STAMP. IT.
DoctorJD
Profile picture for user DoctorJD
Posts
2975
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
Somewhere in..., GA US
DoctorJD 1/15/2018 1:08pm
1/15/2018 1:08pm
davistld01 wrote:
Yeah, I believe Jason can do it. He's exciting to watch, like peelout says...he always looks a tick away from crashing pretty much all the time...
Yeah, I believe Jason can do it. He's exciting to watch, like peelout says...he always looks a tick away from crashing pretty much all the time. If he can stay on the good side of that line he can do it.

The sad thing is, if he does there will be a 20-page Vital thread with people saying the only reason he won was because Tomac and Musquin were injured.
The sad thing is, if he does there will be a 20-page Vital thread with people saying the only reason he won was because Tomac and Musquin were injured.

Yea, those are the same tards who never gave Dungey any credit for what he did over his career. Their opinion means sh*t. In my very humble opinion, that is.
BobbyM
Profile picture for user BobbyM
Posts
21439
Joined
8/15/2006
Location
AZ US
BobbyM 1/15/2018 1:10pm
1/15/2018 1:10pm Edited Date/Time 1/15/2018 1:10pm
TeamGreen wrote:
I've got a case of Don Julio 1942 that says Jason can do it.
Me too... Send me the case asap!
TeamGreen
Profile picture for user TeamGreen
Posts
36993
Joined
11/25/2008
Location
Thru-out, CA US
TeamGreen 1/15/2018 1:13pm
1/15/2018 1:13pm
TeamGreen wrote:
I've got a case of Don Julio 1942 that says Jason can do it.
BobbyM wrote:
Me too... Send me the case asap!
Go to Oak and we'll have some

Post a reply to: Can Jason do it ?