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coolhand 12/9/2017 3:39pm
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Yo Mitch, I don't need any PEDs when I got these

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20 pager need bear.
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...still with 801
Jeff alessi wrote:
Amazing this 20 seconds ago was post #1 on page 20 and now it’s the last post on page 19. Who’s comment got deleted. I’m watching...
Amazing this 20 seconds ago was post #1 on page 20 and now it’s the last post on page 19. Who’s comment got deleted. I’m watching boys.
I was thinking the same thing.
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ML512 wrote:
Anddddddd...we reached 20.
Bermworm wrote:
And still no real answers and nothing concrete....
And...there won't be any forthcoming.

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Rhino 12/9/2017 3:48pm
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Lots of big name trainers on the WFN client list also.
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colintrax 12/9/2017 3:48pm
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slipdog wrote:
...still with 801
Jeff alessi wrote:
Amazing this 20 seconds ago was post #1 on page 20 and now it’s the last post on page 19. Who’s comment got deleted. I’m watching...
Amazing this 20 seconds ago was post #1 on page 20 and now it’s the last post on page 19. Who’s comment got deleted. I’m watching boys.
I'm not a computer person so I don't know how this works, but it's possible to set up a thing to monitor a thread and save every new comment. Again, I don't know how to do this. I'm just saying it's possible if you care to do the research.
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drt410 12/9/2017 4:05pm
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Why was the most disciplined and well trained rider in the sport willing to pay hundreds of thousands or whatever it is dollars to go lift weights and ride somewhere else? Endurance? PEDs cant give you god given speed but they can keep you at that speed for 30 minutes.

Oh yea and Jeff is probably sooo f*d by the industry, but if true good on him. If its not true its just more Alessi BS. Hopefully thats all it is but I doubt it. Its in every sport and theres almost no sport as demanding as mx. Like someone mentioned with big money teams they can get a heads up before tests...and all that stuff, we know feld are dirt bags. Sucks one person had to come out and say this because if you play with peoples money a series of unfortunate events may start occurring, but someone had to I guess. Come to think of it it would have to be an Alessi to break something like this. Everyone else is too scared or their livelihood is tied up or someone has them by the balls and the Alessis never really gave a shit about shaking things up so this actually makes perfect sense. Imagine if JA is the one who sparks the change that cleans the sport up. Hell have an even bigger impact on the sport than his brother who was supposed to be the GOAT, what a crazy situation that would be.
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CrGuy2T 12/9/2017 4:09pm
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ML512 wrote:
Anddddddd...we reached 20.
Hall of fame? Yes or No??
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MxKing809 12/9/2017 4:11pm
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Rhino wrote:
Lots of big name trainers on the WFN client list also.
How do you get your hands on that client list?
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Feld comes from the circus industry so I would bet money he has his hands in everything dirty.The fact he is associated with a legitimate sport is very concerning. The Circus industry lives off of deception and lies. It is also very cut throat and someone can be blackballed from the industry for almost anything, I am sure his business practices didn't change when he bought SX. He is still a huge dirt bag, can't put make up on a pig and call it a beauty queen.
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MxKing809 12/9/2017 4:14pm
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And let’s face it gents.....

The Alessi’s are so blackballed in this industry, they are the only ones who have nothing to loose by speaking up. It’s sad to say, but they’re our only hope!
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144rider 12/9/2017 4:21pm
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And let’s face it gents..... The Alessi’s are so blackballed in this industry, they are the only ones who have nothing to loose by speaking up...
And let’s face it gents.....

The Alessi’s are so blackballed in this industry, they are the only ones who have nothing to loose by speaking up. It’s sad to say, but they’re our only hope!
Yep, most others have a personal agenda to protect. But, since, (in your own words), Jeff has nothing to loose. Just gives more legitimacy to what he is claiming IMO.
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Jmicmoto13 12/9/2017 4:29pm
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MxKing809 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2017/12/09/230620/s1200_97AC8893_6996_4EFA_AE81_38E936DD7A44.jpg[/img]


Man you got skills. That’s hilarious.
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MxKing809 wrote:
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"Lets face it gents"

Jeff has stuck his head out and put it on the chopping block to protect and ehance the sport you claim to love.

Like I said before. Change starts with a conversation. Jeff has simply started that conversation. What have you done for the sport you claim to love lately?

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90smoto 12/9/2017 4:35pm
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Jeff alessi wrote:
He probably shouldn’t call me, because I will drop facts for a long time he won’t disagree with. Right now I’m documenting a timeline, I’m covering...
He probably shouldn’t call me, because I will drop facts for a long time he won’t disagree with. Right now I’m documenting a timeline, I’m covering all the bases so people realize and understand what’s going on. It’s real. It’s just a book long message we have to put up and then the real stuff goes up after.

It’s really upsetting I have to make the decision to put myself on hold, and put this problem on a pedestal and risk myself for the greater benefit of the racers. When I’m done I will have highlighted the reasons why in our ever growing sport we as athletes need a union to organize these issues from happening. Protect the racers. I go to the test tracks and local sx tracks and watch good racers in the top 30 bust there butts for an industry that gives them nothing but stress and an almost impossible mission to make the entire season. This all going on while the owners of feld just recently became billionaires. It’s wrong. But the worst part is the cover up, the riders who ride for teams that get prior notice to drug tests while other teams don’t. That’s wrong. If a rider wants to cheat it’s on him.

There is no public information on any roi, this is where we can’t take control of our sport so racers can compete for a fair living. This is the main motiv. As a racer I knew I couldn’t speak up but as a fan and a trainer I know what needs to happen at the end of every training day. The racers need more from this big sport. It’s being ran by a corrupt system that wants to keep all the information secret so racers can’t speak up, and they use illegal rules in the rule book to scare racers into being quiet workers. It isn’t right and we all know it. I just happen to be the racer that doesn’t rely on them. The information I will be posting will change this, you as fans and parents and racers will thank me later for bringing this to light.
Jmicmoto13 wrote:
Have you and Tyler Evans been speaking lately? Serious question, is this what he was carrying on on Pulp about a few months ago?
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I’ve never listened to a Matthes mouth, as much as he says, he’s doing nothing but pushing the agenda. This isn’t something I’ve known for a...
I’ve never listened to a Matthes mouth, as much as he says, he’s doing nothing but pushing the agenda. This isn’t something I’ve known for a little bit of time but a long time. He likes to take real issues and make it a joke, like it’s not important. His mouth is paid off through interest of those people controlling media and the racers, who they want to keep quiet and in the dark. This is why there is a divide in how racers think, they aren't thinking for themselves, they are to busy being worried about how to jump over all these problems and race. It’s a complex system, but what they are doing is working against the best interest of the racers, so they can keep control and thus continue benefiting off us. Rather then it being the other way around.

Like I said, I will bring these issues into a bigger light, my timeline will aim to break down these walls, and bring awareness to the future scandal it will be.
Dude no lie your rambling non-sense makes you look like your the one on drugs. For gods sake someone take Jeff and lock him in a room somewhere before he ruins every shred of credibility he or his brother mike have left. Poor mike he is a victim of this shit. He seems like a good dude for the most part but his brother and his dad are the male version of that crazy bitch in the movie "gone girl"
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90smoto 12/9/2017 4:37pm
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I'm sure there's been some behind the doors cheating by certain riders especially in the early 2000's.... but hearing Jeff Alessi be the guy to bring the house down makes me laugh!!!! It's very ironic. Maybe it's the universe getting us back lol
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144rider 12/9/2017 4:43pm
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90smoto wrote:
I'm sure there's been some behind the doors cheating by certain riders especially in the early 2000's.... but hearing Jeff Alessi be the guy to bring...
I'm sure there's been some behind the doors cheating by certain riders especially in the early 2000's.... but hearing Jeff Alessi be the guy to bring the house down makes me laugh!!!! It's very ironic. Maybe it's the universe getting us back lol
Why's it ironic?

He made a mistake when he was a kid. Something I'm sure all of us have done at least once in our lifetimes. Build a bridge mate. It really wasn't that big of a deal. Other people at that time were pointing lasers at helicopters and airliners etc. It's not like he risked anyones life.

IMO, you're a follower, just another sheep in the padock following the flock. Incapable of forming your own opinions.

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Jmicmoto13 12/9/2017 4:46pm
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144rider wrote:
Why's it ironic? He made a mistake when he was a kid. Something I'm sure all of us have done at least once in our lifetimes...
Why's it ironic?

He made a mistake when he was a kid. Something I'm sure all of us have done at least once in our lifetimes. Build a bridge mate. It really wasn't that big of a deal. Other people at that time were pointing lasers at helicopters and airliners etc. It's not like he risked anyones life.

IMO, you're a follower, just another sheep in the padock following the flock. Incapable of forming your own opinions.
Not sure how him stating an opinion makes him incapable of forming his own opinion? Conundrum....
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90smoto 12/9/2017 4:46pm
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So let me get this right...? Jeff was in his 20's with a team pass on his neck and a laser in his hands while shining it in RV eyes while he is on the line for a moto is considered just being a kid? He was a grown man am I wrong?
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colintrax 12/9/2017 4:48pm
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Jmicmoto13 wrote:
Not sure how him stating an opinion makes him incapable of forming his own opinion? Conundrum....
Because he follows the path of "make fun of Jeff at every opportunity" and it honestly gets old. If you don't like Jeff then don't respond to him. Easy
UpTiTe 12/9/2017 4:51pm
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Dude no lie your rambling non-sense makes you look like your the one on drugs. For gods sake someone take Jeff and lock him in a...
Dude no lie your rambling non-sense makes you look like your the one on drugs. For gods sake someone take Jeff and lock him in a room somewhere before he ruins every shred of credibility he or his brother mike have left. Poor mike he is a victim of this shit. He seems like a good dude for the most part but his brother and his dad are the male version of that crazy bitch in the movie "gone girl"
How is this in anyway putting shade on Mikes or Tonys name again?

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144rider 12/9/2017 4:51pm
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90smoto wrote:
So let me get this right...? Jeff was in his 20's with a team pass on his neck and a laser in his hands while shining...
So let me get this right...? Jeff was in his 20's with a team pass on his neck and a laser in his hands while shining it in RV eyes while he is on the line for a moto is considered just being a kid? He was a grown man am I wrong?
I'm assuming you've never made a silly mistake in your lifetime? Unlikely!!

"People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones". That'd make you a hypercrite wouldn't it?

Ask yourself. What does Jeff have to gain by all this? I'd suggest. Nothing more than a safer environment for the kids he works with and future of the sport. It should be obvious, this isn't helping him personally in anyway. Quite the opposite by the looks of it.
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90smoto 12/9/2017 4:53pm
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Also it's very "ironic" cause I've had many run Ins with the alessis. As a kid at every amateur national they were the ones pushing and bending every dam rule in the book. If there was ANYONE in those days that cheated coming up thru the ranks it was crazy tony and his two kids raised in a racing van
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90smoto wrote:
So let me get this right...? Jeff was in his 20's with a team pass on his neck and a laser in his hands while shining...
So let me get this right...? Jeff was in his 20's with a team pass on his neck and a laser in his hands while shining it in RV eyes while he is on the line for a moto is considered just being a kid? He was a grown man am I wrong?
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I'm assuming you've never made a silly mistake in your lifetime? Unlikely!! "People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones". That'd make you a hypercrite wouldn't it...
I'm assuming you've never made a silly mistake in your lifetime? Unlikely!!

"People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones". That'd make you a hypercrite wouldn't it?

Ask yourself. What does Jeff have to gain by all this? I'd suggest. Nothing more than a safer environment for the kids he works with and future of the sport. It should be obvious, this isn't helping him personally in anyway. Quite the opposite by the looks of it.
You’re getting stuck on the minutia portion of his argument. Look at the macro version of how Jeff has conducted himself over the past few years. Less than adult like or professional.
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144rider 12/9/2017 4:58pm
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90smoto wrote:
So let me get this right...? Jeff was in his 20's with a team pass on his neck and a laser in his hands while shining...
So let me get this right...? Jeff was in his 20's with a team pass on his neck and a laser in his hands while shining it in RV eyes while he is on the line for a moto is considered just being a kid? He was a grown man am I wrong?
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I'm assuming you've never made a silly mistake in your lifetime? Unlikely!! "People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones". That'd make you a hypercrite wouldn't it...
I'm assuming you've never made a silly mistake in your lifetime? Unlikely!!

"People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones". That'd make you a hypercrite wouldn't it?

Ask yourself. What does Jeff have to gain by all this? I'd suggest. Nothing more than a safer environment for the kids he works with and future of the sport. It should be obvious, this isn't helping him personally in anyway. Quite the opposite by the looks of it.
Jmicmoto13 wrote:
You’re getting stuck on the minutia portion of his argument. Look at the macro version of how Jeff has conducted himself over the past few years...
You’re getting stuck on the minutia portion of his argument. Look at the macro version of how Jeff has conducted himself over the past few years. Less than adult like or professional.
Now that is Ironic!!

Hmmm, what have you don'e to help the future of the sport? Trained many kids lately to help them acheive their goals in life?.

Seems to me, Jeff is giving back to the sport he has participated in and loved his entire life..

You can't fix a problem unless you acknowledge it. If some have an unfair advantage over others, that's a huge problem for the sport.
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kkawboy14 12/9/2017 4:59pm
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ML512 wrote:
Anddddddd...we reached 20.
Shake and Bake and I helped!

So what PEDS are you using MIchael? Smile

Also I voted for you 3 times in the Grammys deal!
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Dude no lie your rambling non-sense makes you look like your the one on drugs. For gods sake someone take Jeff and lock him in a...
Dude no lie your rambling non-sense makes you look like your the one on drugs. For gods sake someone take Jeff and lock him in a room somewhere before he ruins every shred of credibility he or his brother mike have left. Poor mike he is a victim of this shit. He seems like a good dude for the most part but his brother and his dad are the male version of that crazy bitch in the movie "gone girl"
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How is this in anyway putting shade on Mikes or Tonys name again?

Guilty by association
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Team green take a hike your a hack who clings to vital fame.
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BMSOBx2 12/9/2017 5:02pm
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CrGuy2T wrote:
Hall of fame? Yes or No??
I'm surprised it hasn't hit the dumbgeon but it's stirred too much s*** to make it disappear. 600 hits wow.

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