Ronnie Mac vs RC

11/11/2017 12:02pm
Dean Wilson won the real race. Everything else is fake and scripted just for entertainment value, like a monster truck show the time trial races are real the rest is scripted. I personally enjoy a real race and some halftime entertainment between Moto's
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11/11/2017 12:09pm Edited Date/Time 11/11/2017 12:11pm
It was the perfect time to take a piss and top up the drink.

Im embarrassed by where the sport is heading if that is what we are relying on. You think about how long and hard, years, those who make decisions worked to get away from that sideshow low budget type personality and to try and make it a professional series is getting blown out the window in such a short time.

Im glad i was around the sport when we relied on great racing for entertainment
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11/11/2017 12:27pm
I would think that if people would be more interested in real race, there would be much more writings about rider who came second in real race, than Ronnie Mac who took second in exhibition race...
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11/11/2017 12:28pm
It's like a rodeo clown... nobody really takes him seriously, but he's entertaining and fun!

Way more entertaining than a rodeo clown, really.
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11/11/2017 12:40pm
SJK wrote:
I would think that if people would be more interested in real race, there would be much more writings about rider who came second in real...
I would think that if people would be more interested in real race, there would be much more writings about rider who came second in real race, than Ronnie Mac who took second in exhibition race...
How profound
11/11/2017 1:03pm
To put Ronnie Macs popularity into perspective; on Instagram he has nearly double the followers as Jeffrey Herlings. He has more followers than Jason Anderson, and has more than the 2015 and 2016 MX1 World Champions combined. Not trying to bash any of those guys, I just thought those numbers were interesting.

Now some of you will probably tell me how that doesn't mean shit but the reality of the situation is social media presence is one of the most important things to large companies.
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11/11/2017 1:15pm
He made the mainstream news here. Plenty of hype in a positive way. Plus to ride that shitter against a factory tuned bike.
11/11/2017 1:15pm Edited Date/Time 11/11/2017 1:18pm
5 people in my family attend the 1 super cross (salt lake) within driving distance each year. My son and myself are big fans of the series and watch the races intensely but my wife and two daughters who are ticket paying customers like the opening ceremonies more than the main event. Based on those numbers only 40% of those in attendance are big fans. There must be some sideshow to entertain the broader audience.
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11/11/2017 2:37pm
DE262 wrote:
I said it in another post- but the sport got lucky with that ghost ride. That could of ended poorly. Personally, I could do without that...
I said it in another post- but the sport got lucky with that ghost ride. That could of ended poorly.

Personally, I could do without that level of side-show, but if it puts asses in seats and is kept somewhat in-check, knock yourself out.

Nets, bro...
I would like to know how the sport got lucky?
The sport got lucky? I agree I would say we got luck we have Ronnie Mac,
Let’s say RC got lucky in 1997 after doing the double foot can can and then going over the bars at Millville, if he broke his collar bone or worse? Same with Chad Reed ( Chadapult) Trey Canard being landed on, Jason Anderson..

There are so many what if things would have been worse..
Now there are also what if things could have been better...

All in all I think more eyes on the sport is better. Regardless of the reason..
there will always be racing for us die hard fans
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11/11/2017 2:43pm
It's like a rodeo clown... nobody really takes him seriously, but he's entertaining and fun!

Way more entertaining than a rodeo clown, really.
Rodeo clowns serve a purpose beyond entertainment.
11/11/2017 3:36pm
Stoop wrote:
Definitely scripted but those first 2 laps by RC were dynamite and how good does his bike sound compared to Ronnie’s old shitter
Wonder why .. . haha
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11/11/2017 4:32pm
DE262 wrote:
I said it in another post- but the sport got lucky with that ghost ride. That could of ended poorly. Personally, I could do without that...
I said it in another post- but the sport got lucky with that ghost ride. That could of ended poorly.

Personally, I could do without that level of side-show, but if it puts asses in seats and is kept somewhat in-check, knock yourself out.

Nets, bro...
I would like to know how the sport got lucky?
I could care less about the whole Ronnie Mac deal- makes no difference to me. It sells tickets.

But if that bike would have ended up in the stands, like it almost did- and somebody got seriously hurt because of side show type shit, it would have been a bad scene.

As a long time industry guy, that's my point of view.

Everybody is entitled to their own.
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11/11/2017 4:43pm
Circus, wwe type shit.
11/11/2017 4:48pm
DE262 wrote:
I said it in another post- but the sport got lucky with that ghost ride. That could of ended poorly. Personally, I could do without that...
I said it in another post- but the sport got lucky with that ghost ride. That could of ended poorly.

Personally, I could do without that level of side-show, but if it puts asses in seats and is kept somewhat in-check, knock yourself out.

Nets, bro...
I would like to know how the sport got lucky?
DE262 wrote:
I could care less about the whole Ronnie Mac deal- makes no difference to me. It sells tickets. But if that bike would have ended up...
I could care less about the whole Ronnie Mac deal- makes no difference to me. It sells tickets.

But if that bike would have ended up in the stands, like it almost did- and somebody got seriously hurt because of side show type shit, it would have been a bad scene.

As a long time industry guy, that's my point of view.

Everybody is entitled to their own.
not even close to landing in the stands, gtfo of here with your sensationalism
11/11/2017 4:57pm Edited Date/Time 11/11/2017 4:59pm
DE262 wrote:
I could care less about the whole Ronnie Mac deal- makes no difference to me. It sells tickets. But if that bike would have ended up...
I could care less about the whole Ronnie Mac deal- makes no difference to me. It sells tickets.

But if that bike would have ended up in the stands, like it almost did- and somebody got seriously hurt because of side show type shit, it would have been a bad scene.

As a long time industry guy, that's my point of view.

Everybody is entitled to their own.
You're right, you're entitled to your own opinion and I really can't argue that ghost riding your bike isn't potentially dangerous.

However, I urge you to watch this video of the situation, while it doesn't have the best view of it, you can easily see that the bike never went high enough to get into the crowd and never even went in that direction, which I can almost guarantee wasn't done on accident. Not mention the bike hit the camera boom which isn't even as high as the stands. The angle from the TV broadcast really exaggerated this in my opinion.

(Go to 1:40)
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11/11/2017 5:10pm
Jesus Christ have a laugh just a bit of entertainment, the racing was great all night.
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11/11/2017 5:18pm

Well, with all the no touch AMA/FIM crap, and the WADA u no take an aspirin crap, and the be clean as a Dungey
mantra, and the live like JLaw doom and gloom warnings, it's no wonder this sport is getting very boring to the masses.

Face it. Take away the rough riding. Take away renegade I don't give a fuck riders. Take away the close, in your face
conflict that the masses recognize, and you're left with a few die hard guys that can, and do, appreciate the finer points of this sport.

If you're okay with 2 or 3 thousand diehards showing up for each national, to watch a strong factory team and rider
win by 58 seconds, alone, the future is here.
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11/11/2017 6:25pm
I would like to know how the sport got lucky?
DE262 wrote:
I could care less about the whole Ronnie Mac deal- makes no difference to me. It sells tickets. But if that bike would have ended up...
I could care less about the whole Ronnie Mac deal- makes no difference to me. It sells tickets.

But if that bike would have ended up in the stands, like it almost did- and somebody got seriously hurt because of side show type shit, it would have been a bad scene.

As a long time industry guy, that's my point of view.

Everybody is entitled to their own.
Stoop wrote:
not even close to landing in the stands, gtfo of here with your sensationalism
Sure thing Stoop- On my way!

See you at the races. All of them.

Oh, wait- no I won't.
11/11/2017 6:35pm
DE262 wrote:
I could care less about the whole Ronnie Mac deal- makes no difference to me. It sells tickets. But if that bike would have ended up...
I could care less about the whole Ronnie Mac deal- makes no difference to me. It sells tickets.

But if that bike would have ended up in the stands, like it almost did- and somebody got seriously hurt because of side show type shit, it would have been a bad scene.

As a long time industry guy, that's my point of view.

Everybody is entitled to their own.
Stoop wrote:
not even close to landing in the stands, gtfo of here with your sensationalism
DE262 wrote:
Sure thing Stoop- On my way!

See you at the races. All of them.

Oh, wait- no I won't.
yeah probably right, racing sounds to scary for you, stick to lawn bowls
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11/11/2017 6:52pm
Stoop wrote:
not even close to landing in the stands, gtfo of here with your sensationalism
DE262 wrote:
Sure thing Stoop- On my way!

See you at the races. All of them.

Oh, wait- no I won't.
Stoop wrote:
yeah probably right, racing sounds to scary for you, stick to lawn bowls
*too scary.

I'll be at every round. Scared.
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11/11/2017 8:56pm
You're right, you're entitled to your own opinion and I really can't argue that ghost riding your bike isn't potentially dangerous. However, I urge you to...
You're right, you're entitled to your own opinion and I really can't argue that ghost riding your bike isn't potentially dangerous.

However, I urge you to watch this video of the situation, while it doesn't have the best view of it, you can easily see that the bike never went high enough to get into the crowd and never even went in that direction, which I can almost guarantee wasn't done on accident. Not mention the bike hit the camera boom which isn't even as high as the stands. The angle from the TV broadcast really exaggerated this in my opinion.

(Go to 1:40)
Haha, well looks like the kids were having fun, that's all that matters.

Pretty good turn out, by the way!
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11/11/2017 11:02pm Edited Date/Time 11/11/2017 11:08pm
WWE style.

When rivalries have to be scripted and acted out you know the sport has been neutered.
Did the Harlem Globetrotters ruin basketball for you too cupcake?

Its sad and pathetic that people think an exhibition race between Ronnie Mac and a fat Ricky Carmichael is "ruining the sport" LOL. Neither of these guys even race.
11/11/2017 11:15pm
You're right, you're entitled to your own opinion and I really can't argue that ghost riding your bike isn't potentially dangerous. However, I urge you to...
You're right, you're entitled to your own opinion and I really can't argue that ghost riding your bike isn't potentially dangerous.

However, I urge you to watch this video of the situation, while it doesn't have the best view of it, you can easily see that the bike never went high enough to get into the crowd and never even went in that direction, which I can almost guarantee wasn't done on accident. Not mention the bike hit the camera boom which isn't even as high as the stands. The angle from the TV broadcast really exaggerated this in my opinion.

(Go to 1:40)
aeffertz wrote:
Haha, well looks like the kids were having fun, that's all that matters.

Pretty good turn out, by the way!
BINGO
It's about fun and entertainment.
So many kill joys in here
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11/12/2017 5:13am
Look at the crowds reaction when Ronnie ghost rides his bike. Thats how you sell tickets lol
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11/12/2017 5:20am
Stoop wrote:
not even close to landing in the stands, gtfo of here with your sensationalism
I agree. Think also about if that bike flew off into the announcers tower and exploded, killing 50 people (which it almost did).

I cannot fathom why a made-up character like Ronnie Mac would ever do something as stupid as ghost ride a bike!!

I like my motocross like I like my sex - boring and short. I dont want to have to be entertained by a little bit of a tomfoolery now and then, this is motoxross for gosh darn sakes!! Its an embarassment to the landmark of out historic sport to have a scripted, for-fun type of race like this one!!

/s

Gimme a fukin break. Yes of course this was a scripted race. Ronnie mac is a made up character! Yall act like this is going to just destroy motocross.
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11/12/2017 5:28am
rmoto003 wrote:
I agree. Think also about if that bike flew off into the announcers tower and exploded, killing 50 people (which it almost did). I cannot fathom...
I agree. Think also about if that bike flew off into the announcers tower and exploded, killing 50 people (which it almost did).

I cannot fathom why a made-up character like Ronnie Mac would ever do something as stupid as ghost ride a bike!!

I like my motocross like I like my sex - boring and short. I dont want to have to be entertained by a little bit of a tomfoolery now and then, this is motoxross for gosh darn sakes!! Its an embarassment to the landmark of out historic sport to have a scripted, for-fun type of race like this one!!

/s

Gimme a fukin break. Yes of course this was a scripted race. Ronnie mac is a made up character! Yall act like this is going to just destroy motocross.
You lost me at /s
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11/12/2017 5:32am
Ronnie Mac passed the GOAT on a clapped out 98 CR250. It was legit. 2018 Stuporcross champ Ronnie Mac!
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11/12/2017 5:33am
Yep, pay the clown and 6th place FULL TIME pays to be there. Ridiculous. Anybody that thinks this is good for our sport is oblivious.

It is entertaining but far more STUPID than entertaining. I would call it “A SAD LAUGH”.....as we get a firsthand look at how they will take more money from racers and give to clowns. RC and the idiot probably got more money than all of the riders combined!

Perhaps goon racing would be better too?
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11/12/2017 5:48am
All I know is I could watch RC ride a 2-stroke for days, so any "stunt" that gets him out there on one...I'm all for it!
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11/12/2017 8:44am
It's like a rodeo clown... nobody really takes him seriously, but he's entertaining and fun!

Way more entertaining than a rodeo clown, really.
toroP wrote:
Rodeo clowns serve a purpose beyond entertainment.
True. Another similarity is that both Ronnie and rodeo clowns are very skilled, but both try to make the audience believe that is not so, which takes extra skills itself.

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