The thing about Ronnie Mac...

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10/28/2017 5:41am Edited Date/Time 10/28/2017 5:42am
I dunno.....RBSR can be looked at as no more a joke than NHRA Pro Drag Racing.

As far as sponsors go, they follow the numbers.
Unless it's something politically incorrect, a guy hits his wife, a guy gets caught chasing women, the sponsors will be where the numbers are.

And really, admit it, Redneck Culture is, and has been, very fair game in the mainstream public.
It's cool to make light of a guy that digs big trucks and chew,
You know you're a redneck if..,,.

So really, how is RM gonna hurt any of this?

Besides, like it's been posted, the powers that be pay the riders squat, it's their business to make a living
with what they can put together. Fuck, they can't even sell a shirt with their name on it at the track.

What's next, an AMA code of conduct on how you live and make a living?
10/28/2017 9:23am Edited Date/Time 10/28/2017 9:40am
Filled? The % of pro athletes that get into trouble is well below the average of regular society. By that metric, they're actually model citizens. But...
Filled? The % of pro athletes that get into trouble is well below the average of regular society. By that metric, they're actually model citizens.

But that shows you the power of stereotypes don't it?

Playing into those stereotypes is bad business.

And yes, motocross carries it's own negative stereotypes it shouldn't be playing into. If you want the sport to have sponsors that is.
SigPig wrote:
early wrote:
By this logic it should be pointed out that the rate of alcoholism among current active pro riders is likely lower than that of the general...
By this logic it should be pointed out that the rate of alcoholism among current active pro riders is likely lower than that of the general population.
That's probably a safe assumption.

The fact is, stereotypes exist. It's incredibly dumb for a business to play into them.

The NFL is without a doubt LESS VIOLENT than the rest of American society. But you'd never see them endorse a parody that depicts the opposite as to perpetuate the myth that the sport is "filled with wife beaters and people that cant stay out of trouble".

The UFC is costing itself MILLIONS trying to distance itself from steroids.

The NBA imposed a ton of rules to distance itself from the "Malice in the Palace".

You dont think the F1 brass would step in and pull it's drivers if they were participating in a non-affiliated event in which one of the main attractions was a drunk driver?

Im trying to remember why JLaw was pushed out of the sport? Oh yeah, because he was basically a real life New Jersey white trash version of Ronnie Mac. And now his worst behaviour is being showcased. hahahaha. Somewhere there is a strung out Jason Lawrence who is watching RBSR yelling "aint this a bitch".

Nobody is arguing that Ronnie Mac isnt funny (well, some are). Nobody is arguing that he shouldnt exist (Let Jimmy do his thing via his social media and youtube). The argument being made (and it's quite factual) is that it's highly irresponsible to put this caricature front and center during high profile events. Especially for a sport whose economics are so unstable. Ask any team owner if they feel comfortable enough to welcome negative PR in the name of a good laugh.

Ive had conversations with powers that be in this sport that expressed they want to keep the sport small and never want to lose it's "good ol boy" nature. They are willing to sacrifice professionalism to keep the status quo. There is something to be said for that. Ok. That's fine, I appreciate the honesty. I see their perspective. They're also well paid and arent in danger of losing their paychecks. And then there are the members of this forum and/or sport as a whole whom probably feel the same way. Until a well known/liked contributor of this website is losing his job and then you all flip the fuck out. As if there isnt a trickle down effect to "keeping the sport small". You cant have it both ways.
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10/28/2017 9:36am
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10/28/2017 10:39am
Makes me want to buy a 98 CR 250

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10/28/2017 11:07am
peelout wrote:
you'd have to be a complete dipshit to watch anything Ronnie Mac and NOT think it was for fun/joke
Didn't read the whole thread but I don't understand why this wasn't the end of it right here.... Basically another bullshit thread talking about the same bullshit as the other Ronnie thread.
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10/28/2017 11:30am
If he didn’t offend the over sensitive little bitches it wouldn’t be any fun!
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10/28/2017 12:48pm
ATKpilot99 wrote:
Makes me want to buy a 98 CR 250
Pity they don't sell them.
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10/28/2017 1:05pm
ATKpilot99 wrote:
Makes me want to buy a 98 CR 250
Robgvx wrote:
Pity they don't sell them.
Craigslist does Wink I actually used to have a 97 . At the time I pretty much just rode grass track and hills with it , never raced it so to me it didn't seem like a bad bike.
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Craigslist does ;) I actually used to have a 97 . At the time I pretty much just rode grass track and hills with it...
Craigslist does Wink I actually used to have a 97 . At the time I pretty much just rode grass track and hills with it , never raced it so to me it didn't seem like a bad bike.
I'm a '99 CR500 man myself
10/28/2017 1:43pm
I'm still waiting to open Bike Builds and see a Ronnie Mac RBSR replica.
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I'm still waiting to open Bike Builds and see a Ronnie Mac RBSR replica.
I've been waiting for a ride report from ML
With the details of work done to this almost 20 year old bike.
No doubt his competition was on factory prepped bikes
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10/28/2017 6:19pm
peelout wrote:
you'd have to be a complete dipshit to watch anything Ronnie Mac and NOT think it was for fun/joke
Please be advised:

While I'm out pre-running the Baja 1K, reverend Peelout will speak on my behalf.

Thank you.
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10/28/2017 6:29pm
peelout wrote:
you'd have to be a complete dipshit to watch anything Ronnie Mac and NOT think it was for fun/joke
TeamGreen wrote:
Please be advised:

While I'm out pre-running the Baja 1K, reverend Peelout will speak on my behalf.

Thank you.
Noted. Another tough assignment for you I see! Smile
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10/28/2017 6:46pm
GuyB wrote:
Some people like pro wrestling. Some like MMA. People complain about riders not being able to make a buck in the sport, and it seems like...
Some people like pro wrestling. Some like MMA.

People complain about riders not being able to make a buck in the sport, and it seems like Ronnie's keeping himself in PBR and tater tots. More power to him.
Or French fried tators, them big ones or some potted meat. Loved RM.
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10/28/2017 6:47pm
peelout wrote:
you'd have to be a complete dipshit to watch anything Ronnie Mac and NOT think it was for fun/joke
TeamGreen wrote:
Please be advised:

While I'm out pre-running the Baja 1K, reverend Peelout will speak on my behalf.

Thank you.
Ted722 wrote:
Noted. Another tough assignment for you I see! Smile
Someone's gotta do it.

For 'Murica!
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10/28/2017 6:53pm
TeamGreen wrote:
Please be advised:

While I'm out pre-running the Baja 1K, reverend Peelout will speak on my behalf.

Thank you.
Ted722 wrote:
Noted. Another tough assignment for you I see! Smile
TeamGreen wrote:
Someone's gotta do it.

For 'Murica!
Ok brother! I've got a (below) with your name on it! Smile



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10/28/2017 7:00pm
Ted722 wrote:
Noted. Another tough assignment for you I see! Smile
TeamGreen wrote:
Someone's gotta do it.

For 'Murica!
Ted722 wrote:
Ok brother! I've got a (below) with your name on it! :) [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2017/10/28/222315/s1200_st_small_215x235_pad_210x230_f8f8f8.lite_1.jpg[/img]
Ok brother! I've got a (below) with your name on it! Smile



Damn, that's awfully kind of ya to contribute to my hydration program.

For 'Murica!
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10/28/2017 7:14pm
peelout wrote:
you'd have to be a complete dipshit to watch anything Ronnie Mac and NOT think it was for fun/joke
No need for me to go any further in this thread. peelout nailed it!
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10/28/2017 8:05pm
RonJon wrote:
I heard Ronnie Mac was starting a team with James Stewart.
Laughing
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10/29/2017 7:10am
peelout wrote:
you'd have to be a complete dipshit to watch anything Ronnie Mac and NOT think it was for fun/joke
Not when it's given legitimacy & exposure via RBSR. To the casual observer that knows little about MX and already leans towards the (earned) stereotype that...
Not when it's given legitimacy & exposure via RBSR.

To the casual observer that knows little about MX and already leans towards the (earned) stereotype that MXers are rednecks, what looks like a spoof to you just looks like another Brian Deegan with spike shoulder pads to the general public.

Jimmy is a good kid who is liked by everyone so nobody is gonna stomp out the niche he's carved for himself.

But there is a reason you'd never see this in any other grown up sport. It's the equivalent of a NFL sanctioned personality that endorsed steroid use & donestic violence. ESPN tried that shit with a show called PLAYMAKERS years ago. The NFL shut that shit down as fast as they could.

Ricky Bobby has short term gains and long term damage to a sports image.

Considering that moto riding areas are endangered species, I would think positive PR would be paramount to everyone.
RBSR is a one off, off season event for riders to compete and have fun, all while providing entertainment for fans.

It is NOT professional SX or an AMA sanctioned event.

Much of the attendance was due to "promotion" by RM69, and thus we will all have a chance to watch the event again next year. Who do you think "pulled in" Reed and Villopoto? How great was it to see Ryan Villopoto smiling and having fun riding his dirt bike in a sport he dominated. Who enjoyed seeing RV2…. thank Ronnie and his social media.

Some "naysayers" talk about people who happened to just “tune in” and see this "crap". This was NOT a live Feld SX Show or ABC's Wide World of Sports on Saturday afternoon TV. You had to get on the internet, and go to RED BULL TV. It is not something you accidently tuned into. The event is going to be aired at a later date on TV, so some of you may want to blackball that channel. My guess is that the delayed TV broadcast will have some extra viewers because of RM69. Just be sure to warn newcomers to motorcycling(and idiots) that RM69 is a fictional character. There have been some good “references/ comparisons” in this post regarding other sports if you need some assistance with an analogy for the newcomers watching.

I take a few things from this:

Riding a dirt motorcycle is fun…all the riders are smiling and appear to be having a great time.
These “one off” fun events can be entertaining and fun for all.
You can have fun(and go fast) on a 20 year old $1000-1500 motorcycle.
Helmets, Boots, Goggles, and gloves should be worn by every rider for protection.
It is the parent’s responsibility to teach their children.
There are more fans of the sport after RBSR than before this year’s event.

Thanks RED BULL!
10/29/2017 7:18am Edited Date/Time 10/29/2017 7:19am
You mean to tell me Ronnie Mac is that much different then the average outdoor motocross fan? I don’t know about you but outdoor motocross is all about drinking beer and having a good time for me.
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10/29/2017 7:41am
RBSR is a one off, off season event for riders to compete and have fun, all while providing entertainment for fans. It is NOT professional SX...
RBSR is a one off, off season event for riders to compete and have fun, all while providing entertainment for fans.

It is NOT professional SX or an AMA sanctioned event.

Much of the attendance was due to "promotion" by RM69, and thus we will all have a chance to watch the event again next year. Who do you think "pulled in" Reed and Villopoto? How great was it to see Ryan Villopoto smiling and having fun riding his dirt bike in a sport he dominated. Who enjoyed seeing RV2…. thank Ronnie and his social media.

Some "naysayers" talk about people who happened to just “tune in” and see this "crap". This was NOT a live Feld SX Show or ABC's Wide World of Sports on Saturday afternoon TV. You had to get on the internet, and go to RED BULL TV. It is not something you accidently tuned into. The event is going to be aired at a later date on TV, so some of you may want to blackball that channel. My guess is that the delayed TV broadcast will have some extra viewers because of RM69. Just be sure to warn newcomers to motorcycling(and idiots) that RM69 is a fictional character. There have been some good “references/ comparisons” in this post regarding other sports if you need some assistance with an analogy for the newcomers watching.

I take a few things from this:

Riding a dirt motorcycle is fun…all the riders are smiling and appear to be having a great time.
These “one off” fun events can be entertaining and fun for all.
You can have fun(and go fast) on a 20 year old $1000-1500 motorcycle.
Helmets, Boots, Goggles, and gloves should be worn by every rider for protection.
It is the parent’s responsibility to teach their children.
There are more fans of the sport after RBSR than before this year’s event.

Thanks RED BULL!
Thank you for bringing a great summary and some logic!
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10/29/2017 8:27am
I've realized the following;
The internet is not good for people.
Things were just fine in 98'.
In 98' Ronnie Mac would have been allowed to take the corners AND the jumps.
Duke Finch should have made a rule against how short his own shorts were, and whoever that one dude was who followed him around like a puppy dog just so he would be allowed to wear an AMA shirt and a head set was the biggest suckass the world ever saw. If you yelled BOO he would dissapear for the rest of the day.
The stands were also full in 98'.
Without racial slurs and chewing tobacco, RM will never be seen as real so you highly analytical types who are worried about the sports image in the eyes of those who never watch it can relax.
The 2014 season and prior had so many more fast guys in the 450 class than the 18' season will.
The Europeans are coming.
When they talked about the handling of bikes in the 90s not being great, they also didn't drive the dozer on the track every hour during the day.
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10/29/2017 9:44am
I think it's great because it's that kind of thing that will encourage the casual fanbase to tune in and that's what any sport needs - a strong casual fanbase. All of us here are pretty hardcore fans, but we aren't enough people to make a difference in tv ratings and what not that actually allows/funds the events to happen.
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10/29/2017 9:47am
As a fan of the satire I can't comment on if it's good or bad for the sport, but what I can share is. While in attendance at the event, having some beers, the stands were pretty full prior to the 2 stroke race and I commented on it to the folks I was with. However, immediately after the 2 stroke final the stands cleared the eff out. I commented on this as well as it was that visual. Did they just leave or did they head to the pits to see Ronnie? Whatever the case they didn't see Marvin Win...

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