Milestone - Monster Energy Supercross The Official Video Game

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10/24/2017 6:59am
well, the guys at thq were like oh boy this sucks...





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10/24/2017 7:24am
Yep, I spotted that as well. That's Ken George, head guy at Rainbow. Not looking happy.

But only have themselves to blame. They've had numerous opportunities to make this happen throughout the years but for whatever reason it never did.
10/24/2017 7:58am
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Yep, I spotted that as well. That's Ken George, head guy at Rainbow. Not looking happy. But only have themselves to blame. They've had numerous opportunities...
Yep, I spotted that as well. That's Ken George, head guy at Rainbow. Not looking happy.

But only have themselves to blame. They've had numerous opportunities to make this happen throughout the years but for whatever reason it never did.
Probably thinking “This game looks sick, we better post All Out’s soundtrack on Facebook ASAP.”

Remember when they said they were going to replicate the 2017 tracks for Encore, but replicating the stadiums wasn’t possible? Then Milestone drops of a video of Roczen in US Bank Stadium. Lol
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10/24/2017 8:09am Edited Date/Time 10/24/2017 8:17am
flatout111 wrote:
Yep, I spotted that as well. That's Ken George, head guy at Rainbow. Not looking happy. But only have themselves to blame. They've had numerous opportunities...
Yep, I spotted that as well. That's Ken George, head guy at Rainbow. Not looking happy.

But only have themselves to blame. They've had numerous opportunities to make this happen throughout the years but for whatever reason it never did.
SEE ARE125 wrote:
Probably thinking “This game looks sick, we better post All Out’s soundtrack on Facebook ASAP.” Remember when they said they were going to replicate the 2017...
Probably thinking “This game looks sick, we better post All Out’s soundtrack on Facebook ASAP.”

Remember when they said they were going to replicate the 2017 tracks for Encore, but replicating the stadiums wasn’t possible? Then Milestone drops of a video of Roczen in US Bank Stadium. Lol
Yeah, they also said getting the licensing couldn't be done for....some reason. Its funny, they were even dubbed the official game of Supercross back when Alive came out but it was still just a few riders on generic bikes and pretty much next to nothing, authenticity wise.

I think this is why All Out went more all vehicle-ish. They saw the writing on the wall. But in my conversations with the head of Nordic I begged them to work hard to get the official license. I said, if you don't, someone else will. And here you go.

Just kinda makes them look like they didn't really want to do it because it WAS actually doable.

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10/24/2017 8:11am
SEE ARE125 wrote:
Probably thinking “This game looks sick, we better post All Out’s soundtrack on Facebook ASAP.” Remember when they said they were going to replicate the 2017...
Probably thinking “This game looks sick, we better post All Out’s soundtrack on Facebook ASAP.”

Remember when they said they were going to replicate the 2017 tracks for Encore, but replicating the stadiums wasn’t possible? Then Milestone drops of a video of Roczen in US Bank Stadium. Lol
HAHAHA right! Those rainbow guys couldn't figure out what the Moto crowd wanted, not even after 7 years of one the best mxvatv games??? Doesn't make sense. Thank you milestone
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10/24/2017 8:21am Edited Date/Time 10/24/2017 8:48am
Honestly, I think the key is whoever is in charge of licensing at Milestone knows how to get it done. They've been tight with Monster Energy since MUD back 2012. And it's not just Monster. The MES trailer features the most popular Red Bull MX athlete in the former champ, Ryan Dungey.

I thought that was cool, especially considering the game is called Monster Energy Supercross. It shows they were going for as close to full authenticity as possible.

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10/24/2017 9:53am
flatout111 wrote:
Yep, I spotted that as well. That's Ken George, head guy at Rainbow. Not looking happy. But only have themselves to blame. They've had numerous opportunities...
Yep, I spotted that as well. That's Ken George, head guy at Rainbow. Not looking happy.

But only have themselves to blame. They've had numerous opportunities to make this happen throughout the years but for whatever reason it never did.
You've deducted from that three second clip and picture that he seems unhappy? That Monster money really has you reaching.
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10/24/2017 10:14am
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Yep, I spotted that as well. That's Ken George, head guy at Rainbow. Not looking happy. But only have themselves to blame. They've had numerous opportunities...
Yep, I spotted that as well. That's Ken George, head guy at Rainbow. Not looking happy.

But only have themselves to blame. They've had numerous opportunities to make this happen throughout the years but for whatever reason it never did.
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You've deducted from that three second clip and picture that he seems unhappy? That Monster money really has you reaching.
Here we go with the monster money talk. I'll just leave that alone.

Well, I seriously doubt he's thrilled to have not only a new competitor in Supercross but also one who gets the official license that they never did and partners with Feld on an official game. I can't imagine him doing cartwheels about that from a smart budiness man's point of view.

But whatever you think I'm cool with. Smile
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10/24/2017 10:44am
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Here we go with the monster money talk. I'll just leave that alone. Well, I seriously doubt he's thrilled to have not only a new competitor...
Here we go with the monster money talk. I'll just leave that alone.

Well, I seriously doubt he's thrilled to have not only a new competitor in Supercross but also one who gets the official license that they never did and partners with Feld on an official game. I can't imagine him doing cartwheels about that from a smart budiness man's point of view.

But whatever you think I'm cool with. Smile
The Rainbow guy is probably looking a little sad because he knows that without dune buggies and quads, the sales of the Milestone game are doomed from the start.
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10/24/2017 10:55am
I, for one, am glad to see Ken front and center paying attention and showing interest. Competition generally breeds a better product all around for the consumers.
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10/24/2017 11:31am
flatout111 wrote:
I, for one, am glad to see Ken front and center paying attention and showing interest. Competition generally breeds a better product all around for the...
I, for one, am glad to see Ken front and center paying attention and showing interest. Competition generally breeds a better product all around for the consumers.
I think if Ken were smart he would keep the crappy encore physics and use them for a new ATV game, then focus on an actual mx/sx game. I think his love for the quads is getting in the way of a good dirt bike game. The pull back push up preload mechanism probably works great for quads since there's no scrubbing with those things.
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10/24/2017 11:49am
It looks like the bike hovers and lands like a helicopter.
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10/24/2017 11:52am
don't hold your breath waiting on thq to make a good mx game ...
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10/24/2017 12:55pm
flatout111 wrote:
Honestly, I think the key is whoever is in charge of licensing at Milestone knows how to get it done. They've been tight with Monster Energy...
Honestly, I think the key is whoever is in charge of licensing at Milestone knows how to get it done. They've been tight with Monster Energy since MUD back 2012. And it's not just Monster. The MES trailer features the most popular Red Bull MX athlete in the former champ, Ryan Dungey.

I thought that was cool, especially considering the game is called Monster Energy Supercross. It shows they were going for as close to full authenticity as possible.

There really is something interesting...I have no idea how they are able to license everything. It's like some kind of blanketed license since they have an agreement with Feld.. That or they have an amazing legal team.

Who am I kidding...they probably have some guy walking around in the pits at every race getting everyone (teams, riders, sponsors, manufacturers) asking them to sign a release of some sort and they just sign off without a thought in mind haha..not really but who knows.

As for the look on Ken George's face....he's probably thinking...how the hell did they license all of this...or he knows first hand what it would have cost. MX vs ATV has to be looking at this and thinking...you know what an authentic Supercross game would yield X amount of potential sales....an offroad game with a broader demographic could yield 3X or 4X the amount of potential sales. If I'm a developer why would I keep providing to a bitchy niche market....They will get what they get...but do you honestly thing non moto people are going to pick up reflex or any dual stick mx game and understand how to play it? Heck no...Milestone has some mafia money or something.

What Milestone does understand is that releasing a new version that is slightly tweaked each year is easy money. You will see SX2, SX3, SX4...MXGP4, MXGP5....Ride3, Ride4, Ride 5...and who knows EnduroCross...endless opportunities to rebrand the same game and sell it each year...they may sell a small number of copies of one game...but they will sell that same game over and over again each year...in different formats...to the same person. The same buyer could potentially buy 3 games (MXGP, SX, Ride) every year indefinitely.

I've said this before, but at the end of the day....I'll play this game here and there but the MX vs ATV game will probably be where I play a majority of the time. I know what I will get out of Supercross the Game...I imagine MX vs ATV will be different than Encore, Supercross, Alive or Reflex....they show drastic changes...sometimes not great..but I think change is good.. no sense in playing the same damn game just because the characters are authentic...I make all the authentic rider's bikes anyhow for Reflex.
10/24/2017 1:10pm Edited Date/Time 10/24/2017 1:18pm
I’m thinking they didn’t license with Feld, but instead licensed with the FIM. Since they’ve worked with the FIM in the past with MXGP, maybe they asked the FIM add a clause to their Supercross contract to where the FIM had the rights to rider/bike/team/event likeness, and in turn, the FIM sold those rights to Milestone. That would also explain how they were able to get Daytona, as it’s not a Feld event, but is part of the FIM championship. I have no idea, just throwing it out there.
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10/24/2017 1:32pm

Another question I have is, will the game allow us to free ride in all of the environments. One of the few frustrations about Reflex was that you could not free ride the SX tracks. Sometimes my friends and I laugh ourselves silly just thrashing all around the SX tracks looking for transfers etc.
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10/24/2017 1:37pm
SEE ARE125 wrote:
I’m thinking they didn’t license with Feld, but instead licensed with the FIM. Since they’ve worked with the FIM in the past with MXGP, maybe they...
I’m thinking they didn’t license with Feld, but instead licensed with the FIM. Since they’ve worked with the FIM in the past with MXGP, maybe they asked the FIM add a clause to their Supercross contract to where the FIM had the rights to rider/bike/team/event likeness, and in turn, the FIM sold those rights to Milestone. That would also explain how they were able to get Daytona, as it’s not a Feld event, but is part of the FIM championship. I have no idea, just throwing it out there.
I was on this script as well. How does this fit with no monster kawi guys I wonder? Be pretty neat to hear all the inner workings of this type of stuff.
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10/24/2017 1:41pm
SEE ARE125 wrote:
I’m thinking they didn’t license with Feld, but instead licensed with the FIM. Since they’ve worked with the FIM in the past with MXGP, maybe they...
I’m thinking they didn’t license with Feld, but instead licensed with the FIM. Since they’ve worked with the FIM in the past with MXGP, maybe they asked the FIM add a clause to their Supercross contract to where the FIM had the rights to rider/bike/team/event likeness, and in turn, the FIM sold those rights to Milestone. That would also explain how they were able to get Daytona, as it’s not a Feld event, but is part of the FIM championship. I have no idea, just throwing it out there.
I think that's probably accurate...
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10/24/2017 1:43pm
SPODEBOY wrote:
Another question I have is, will the game allow us to free ride in all of the environments. One of the few frustrations about Reflex was...

Another question I have is, will the game allow us to free ride in all of the environments. One of the few frustrations about Reflex was that you could not free ride the SX tracks. Sometimes my friends and I laugh ourselves silly just thrashing all around the SX tracks looking for transfers etc.
Most Milestone games have practice time. So not really free riding but still being able to take laps.
10/24/2017 1:43pm
Good riddance Nordic/THQ/Rainbow. Your games suck.
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New Gamezone Monster Energy Supercross video. Nothing major new but it is a different video and interview.

https://youtu.be/o6E4-zbVq8Y
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10/24/2017 2:47pm
flatout111 wrote:
I, for one, am glad to see Ken front and center paying attention and showing interest. Competition generally breeds a better product all around for the...
I, for one, am glad to see Ken front and center paying attention and showing interest. Competition generally breeds a better product all around for the consumers.
If they are genuine fans of the sport they'll welcome it as a good thing. I think thq got so used to being the only kid on the block for so long that a subpar game became the standard. How would they know what's possible to achieve if their only comparison is to their own mediocrity?

Also I think I remember you from the old mx vs atv forums. I used to be on there in the untamed/reflex days as dirtbikedude409.
10/24/2017 3:16pm
flatout111 wrote:
Honestly, I think the key is whoever is in charge of licensing at Milestone knows how to get it done. They've been tight with Monster Energy...
Honestly, I think the key is whoever is in charge of licensing at Milestone knows how to get it done. They've been tight with Monster Energy since MUD back 2012. And it's not just Monster. The MES trailer features the most popular Red Bull MX athlete in the former champ, Ryan Dungey.

I thought that was cool, especially considering the game is called Monster Energy Supercross. It shows they were going for as close to full authenticity as possible.

Judging from their projects in the past they were already pretty tight with the FIM/Youthstream. If you know the right people and you're willing to invest a few bucks there are a lot of possibilities.
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10/24/2017 4:27pm
Still can’t get over how good the graphics are. Oh I just hope the in-air physics is not shit.
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10/24/2017 4:36pm
As much as wish the in air-physic will be changed in highly doubting they will you can already tell via gameplay. As all others said first person view physic are right where you want them in reason. Only thing has me a little concerned is as the past mxgp games the KTM is just on another level. I know people are fast on other manufacturers but the KTM is Just beast. Simple powerful etc.
10/24/2017 4:42pm
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Still can’t get over how good the graphics are. Oh I just hope the in-air physics is not shit.
Agreed, although I hope that is actually indicative (achievable) of the final product and not yet another bait and switch, a la Watch Dogs etc. I'm pretty confident though as Milestone have always delivered visually with their MXGP series imo.
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10/24/2017 6:38pm
I try not to chime in on this topic too much because most of you are hard core in your opinions.

I do agree that rainbow/thq hasn't given any of us what we have wanted for well over a decade. Looking back, everything looks and feels so cheap. MVA Unleashed was the last game that was really on or above (below?) Par. Everything since has felt like a reboot of a PS2 game.

On that note, I did read and post a few pages back about the free ride aspect of the older games like unleashed and off road fury. I did burn a ton of hours on that mode back in the day. I think having something like that adds a lot to a games longevity, rather than just putting in motor after moto. If anything, it's kind of analogous to riding a dirt bike in the real world.
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Looks like we will get Daytona guys!!

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