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Funny story, one of my racing buddies I first started riding with said a friend of theirs started racing in the 70's and when he first signed up, he signed up for A cause, well, that's the first letter in the alphabet. Story goes that by the time he figured out the way it was supposed to work, he was already running well in the A class and stayed there. May be a little puffing up of the story, or the guy was a natural talent, or both, but if it's true, it makes me chuckle when I hear it.
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I like the TLD family, but lets be real. Max lee is not a C - class rider. Thats the kind of talent i would have to line up with on a C class race, and if i race D i look like the sand bagger because i hit all the jumps and i can run expert with the OTHG and Old timers.. There is not a place for people like me, and most of the people on this forum.
there should be a hobbyist class,for people that have a full time job, home and a family class. i cant afford to be slammed by a 16yr old kid, which happens a lot down here.
FWIW try being 38! I'd like to bring my money and my bike to some local races out here in Socal but don't even bother because it's a joke. I've watched 'normal Am races' at Pala and Milestone and the C-class kids are whipping and scrubbing every jump with both feet on the pegs railing turns. Yeah no. You are pretty much relegated to the Old Guy Clubs which are fun and all but not the same overall feed/vibe/gates/etc.
The culture in MX is so odd. I come from roadracing first and you jump up as quick as you can. Very few people sandbag overall as it's looked upon very poorly and rules are in place to automatically bump you up. If anything we have to put rules in place to KEEP people from bumping up too early!
However in MX it's the opposite and it's encouraged. I remember sitting with (Big Shot Executive) and asking about his (Top Am Son) at Loretta's. He said he's doing well and in B. I was so confused, why is he in B? I thought he was a top kid and going pro? He's got an (OEM DEAL) and a (Major Gear Brand Deal) etc so why is he in the Intermediate class? Mr (Big Shot Moto Executive) said 'oh B is faster and better than A'. That kid is now on a (FACTORY) team.
Until the sport as a whole addresses the issue, it ain't going away. The promoters need to stop allowing it and the national organizers need to crack down on it. In this day and age of internet and information, there is no excuse for 'not knowing' someones level. If you see someone pulling shenanigans, like throwing results to stay down a class, fudging paperwork, acting like an idiot, you need to call it out as Race Directors/Promotors. I've seen roadracing directors (on both coasts) tell guys flat out 'we've warned you about your BS, you've used up your strikes, don't ever come back and btw, I'm emailing every other race director in the country so you are banned from all orgs'.
Maybe because there are just so many children in motocross racing compared to roadracing.
In the workplace ranting without solutions is frowned upon so fine, here's how I'd do it with my own Chicken Licks Raceway.
Jonny New Racer - Enter C class. If you finishing within Top 3 in any C class championship you are automatically moved up to B for the following year. Same with B class championships, finish in the Top 3 and you are automatically moved up to A for the following year.
If you move up from 50's to 65's after placing Top 3 in class championship, you are allowed to stay within the same
class for the following year. Same with 65's to Minis/Superminis and then up to Big Bikes (250F's). However once you reach 250F's no more. Going from 250F's to 450F's doesn't allow you to 'stay down in that class'. That only applies to the younger kids on the small bikes.
You may petition to move up early if your laptimes are within scope of the next class up's top half and your riding is deemed safe (like you aren't just Sketchy Jonny) by race director. Meaning if it's mid-season and I'm in C, and my laptimes would have me in the top half of B consistently (like 10th out of 20) then I could petition to move up early with race direction.
If you are B fast guy in Podunk Ohio and go to Loretta's (or big Am race in Texas, or Cali, etc) and get waxed. Too bad, go home and practice more and pull out the old stopwatch and practice practice. If you are that far off you aren't getting scouted by Mitch Payton anyway.
Whew. Nice rant! haha.. okay back to work.
That's not going to work. The rider's who are racing in the Lynette Long National cannot move up a class at a local race or risk forfeiting their C Class eligibility once they qualified at the Area or Regional LL Qualifier.
It needs to be resolved at a higher level...... C Class, No National Championship and No Mfg. Contingency.
Instead of doing nothing, MX Sports should fix this AND proactively investigate what 4 stroke displacement works with the 125cc and 250cc National Motocross Class structure. That "Double-Displacement Rule" is severely outdated, and it's a "supplemental rule" only kept in Pro Racing.
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The big problem here is with our life long C class Vet riders. They don't hit AMA races, so they never get RPV points. So they just keep riding C. So we end up with 20 Vet C, 4 Vet B and 2 Vet A riders. I'm going to talk with all of our race promoters this month and see if they would do an RPV style system to fix this and spread out the riders. My take a year or two, but worth it.
And I'm 100% w/ you & your mort. I wanna get up on Mon. & go to work, & not be forced to do a triple that 18 yr old experts are doin on 450's.
Yes I'm older than dirt. Retired 250A in 1986. Now its called a mid life crisis by the yahoos.
I just wanna get my rox off
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