Justin Barcia and JGR

RG1 wrote:

Seen it mentioned a few times that Barcia could end up on the factory KTM, but I have to say at the minute, I don't see...

Seen it mentioned a few times that Barcia could end up on the factory KTM, but I have to say at the minute, I don't see how they could be interested. He hasn't really shown anything for almost 2 seasons now that would make you think that KTM would want to put him on a factory bike. It will be interesting to see where he ends up, it seems like he's definitely out at JGR.

Black Diesel Bomber wrote:

I'm one of those who's always giving the blue pig a hard time. I love the yzf 250's, but feel the 450f is definitely a pig...

I'm one of those who's always giving the blue pig a hard time. I love the yzf 250's, but feel the 450f is definitely a pig. Maybe not for the average rider, but definitely at the Barcia/Webb level. Hopefully the new bike is improved.

I'll have to eat crow if Barcia doesn't keep improving on the new yellow bike. It's a new bike for the team and it's a long season so we'll see if he continues to improve or continues to drop anchor.

EnvyMedia wrote:

I dunno, I don't see it happen either but if it does than I guess KTM sees potential in him and gets someone to coach his...

I dunno, I don't see it happen either but if it does than I guess KTM sees potential in him and gets someone to coach his riding style to better adapt to a 450. He was BTW 3rd in points in 2015 and 4th in 2016, so it's not like he showed nothing.

With that logic, that brings up the question; why on earth did they sign Trey? I hate to say it but he's injured all the time and proved that once again this season. I'd say they have a better shot with Justin than they had/have with Trey.

c0ncEpT wrote:

Pretty sure Roczen rode the yellow bike pretty aggressively all last year to something like 20 moto wins. When are people going to stop making excuses...

Pretty sure Roczen rode the yellow bike pretty aggressively all last year to something like 20 moto wins.

When are people going to stop making excuses about the bike for Barcia's lack of performance....

philG wrote:

If you study the data, i bet KRoc used half the revs that Barcia did..

Craig742 wrote:

Has any of JGR riders really succeed? there has been flashes, but really not one has been a threat. Could it be JGR trying too much...

Has any of JGR riders really succeed? there has been flashes, but really not one has been a threat. Could it be JGR trying too much with their Nascar program goodies, and trying one off stuff on the bikes and goes the wrong way.

Turbojez wrote:

Anyone else feels it's actually pretty sad? Honestly, when I saw Barcia racing 450 for the first time I was quite sure that it's just a...

Anyone else feels it's actually pretty sad? Honestly, when I saw Barcia racing 450 for the first time I was quite sure that it's just a matter of a year or two until he takes the outdoor 450 championship home. What the hell happened since that time?! This kid had wins in his rookie 450 season!

Please, save yourself the "karma bit him in the ass" comments.

c0ncEpT wrote:

Ahhh I wasn't aware riding aggressive just means revving the piss out of the engine. My bad!

Turbojez wrote:

Anyone else feels it's actually pretty sad? Honestly, when I saw Barcia racing 450 for the first time I was quite sure that it's just a...

Anyone else feels it's actually pretty sad? Honestly, when I saw Barcia racing 450 for the first time I was quite sure that it's just a matter of a year or two until he takes the outdoor 450 championship home. What the hell happened since that time?! This kid had wins in his rookie 450 season!

Please, save yourself the "karma bit him in the ass" comments.

Flip109 wrote:

This is how feel/felt bout the situation. Wtf happened

oshow wrote:

Already signed to KTM...

Committed to him too early, could have had the guy with the longest line

EnvyMedia wrote:

I dunno, I don't see it happen either but if it does than I guess KTM sees potential in him and gets someone to coach his...

I dunno, I don't see it happen either but if it does than I guess KTM sees potential in him and gets someone to coach his riding style to better adapt to a 450. He was BTW 3rd in points in 2015 and 4th in 2016, so it's not like he showed nothing.

With that logic, that brings up the question; why on earth did they sign Trey? I hate to say it but he's injured all the time and proved that once again this season. I'd say they have a better shot with Justin than they had/have with Trey.

philG wrote:

They signed Trey , because he is good people with a clean cut image and that fitted nicely alongside Dungey, and Marvin. I wouldnt have signed...

They signed Trey , because he is good people with a clean cut image and that fitted nicely alongside Dungey, and Marvin.

I wouldnt have signed Trey to replace Wilson, personally, but i get why they did, maybe Roger thought the KTM would help him stay off the ground.

Career trajectory is everything... it needs to be going the right way .

Langhammx wrote:

I don't agree with it and I don't think he's earned it, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him on a Factory backed team next...

I don't agree with it and I don't think he's earned it, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him on a Factory backed team next year. That's the word on the streets I hang out on.

Crush wrote:

I don't get how KTM is interested... I really don't. He is so talented, but just won't adjust his riding style. It's fucking mental. He literally...

I don't get how KTM is interested... I really don't.

He is so talented, but just won't adjust his riding style. It's fucking mental. He literally smoked a bunch of the top guys at different times, but can't pull his head out. It was the Honda, the Yamaha and now it's the Suzuki. Don't get me wrong, the Honda – lots of guys were having suspension issues and he never got the option to swap, and clearly the Yamaha is a different duck, but now?

The one thing is, he's actually been injured a lot, like a helluva lot, but I don't think that changes till he smooths out.

kNewc wrote:

You guys do know he got 4th in 2016 outdoors? Right? So, you have to be top 3 to be even considered for a factory ride...

You guys do know he got 4th in 2016 outdoors? Right? So, you have to be top 3 to be even considered for a factory ride? Last 2 rides of the season he got 2nd place. C'mon what does he have to do to get a factory ride by the standards set here? I think 4th is quite a large statement and proves he is a top guy. Ya'll are only looking at supercross? He rips it outdoors.

Crush wrote:

Knowing he has straight up beat all the dudes who are regularly beating him, would you say he's living up to his potential? He quite literally...

Knowing he has straight up beat all the dudes who are regularly beating him, would you say he's living up to his potential?

He quite literally has the talent, he's fit, he just keeps riding the same way.

It's almost as puzzling as pros who don't get super fit. It's a choice. It's easily fixed. It's not like he's never had the pace.

Turbojez wrote:

Anyone else feels it's actually pretty sad? Honestly, when I saw Barcia racing 450 for the first time I was quite sure that it's just a...

Anyone else feels it's actually pretty sad? Honestly, when I saw Barcia racing 450 for the first time I was quite sure that it's just a matter of a year or two until he takes the outdoor 450 championship home. What the hell happened since that time?! This kid had wins in his rookie 450 season!

Please, save yourself the "karma bit him in the ass" comments.

Flip109 wrote:

This is how feel/felt bout the situation. Wtf happened

kiwifan wrote:

What happened?...well he left Honda as apparently that was holding him back to realize his full potential, had a couple of good races on the Yamaha...

What happened?...well he left Honda as apparently that was holding him back to realize his full potential, had a couple of good races on the Yamaha (and lots of bad ones) but still didn't show full potential, then JGR switched to Suzuki and everyone said ah that Yamaha was the reason why he hasn't realized his full potential, now people are saying ah KTM is the answer!!!.....wait...anyone see a common denominator? ...yes it is NOT the bike...there was nothing wrong with the Honda, Yamaha or Suzuki.

etccb wrote:

Who is "the guy with the longest line"? I am failing to fill in that blank in my blank mind at the moment.

oldnwise wrote:

It's karma. He cheated on his previous girlfriend and now he's cursed. It makes me happy to see karma working. He may do ok in the...

It's karma.

He cheated on his previous girlfriend and now he's cursed. It makes me happy to see karma working.

He may do ok in the Canada motocross!!

Crush wrote:

Knowing he has straight up beat all the dudes who are regularly beating him, would you say he's living up to his potential? He quite literally...

Knowing he has straight up beat all the dudes who are regularly beating him, would you say he's living up to his potential?

He quite literally has the talent, he's fit, he just keeps riding the same way.

It's almost as puzzling as pros who don't get super fit. It's a choice. It's easily fixed. It's not like he's never had the pace.

kNewc wrote:

Was he beating Eli and Roczen regularly? You might be able to argue for Musquin but not those 2. At least not from 2014 or so...

Was he beating Eli and Roczen regularly? You might be able to argue for Musquin but not those 2. At least not from 2014 or so until now.

CrGuy2T wrote:

Probably take those millions he signed for and retire if his money is invested right.

Flip109 wrote:

This is how feel/felt bout the situation. Wtf happened

kiwifan wrote:

What happened?...well he left Honda as apparently that was holding him back to realize his full potential, had a couple of good races on the Yamaha...

What happened?...well he left Honda as apparently that was holding him back to realize his full potential, had a couple of good races on the Yamaha (and lots of bad ones) but still didn't show full potential, then JGR switched to Suzuki and everyone said ah that Yamaha was the reason why he hasn't realized his full potential, now people are saying ah KTM is the answer!!!.....wait...anyone see a common denominator? ...yes it is NOT the bike...there was nothing wrong with the Honda, Yamaha or Suzuki.

Flip109 wrote:

We weren't referring to the bikes as the problem. We just wonder what happened to him in general. He showed HUGE potential on the 450 at...

We weren't referring to the bikes as the problem. We just wonder what happened to him in general. He showed HUGE potential on the 450 at first....

kiwifan wrote:

What happened?...well he left Honda as apparently that was holding him back to realize his full potential, had a couple of good races on the Yamaha...

What happened?...well he left Honda as apparently that was holding him back to realize his full potential, had a couple of good races on the Yamaha (and lots of bad ones) but still didn't show full potential, then JGR switched to Suzuki and everyone said ah that Yamaha was the reason why he hasn't realized his full potential, now people are saying ah KTM is the answer!!!.....wait...anyone see a common denominator? ...yes it is NOT the bike...there was nothing wrong with the Honda, Yamaha or Suzuki.

Flip109 wrote:

We weren't referring to the bikes as the problem. We just wonder what happened to him in general. He showed HUGE potential on the 450 at...

We weren't referring to the bikes as the problem. We just wonder what happened to him in general. He showed HUGE potential on the 450 at first....

kiwifan wrote:

ok fair enough...I think nothing happened...his 250 riding style does not suit the 450's, it hasnt changed. Change the upstairs thinking and technique and he would...

ok fair enough...I think nothing happened...his 250 riding style does not suit the 450's, it hasnt changed. Change the upstairs thinking and technique and he would be faster imho.