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Permeance_Flux wrote:
Pretty solid points you make, I personally would only want CBS sports to watch MXGP, FS1&2 to watch supercross, and NBC sports to watch 2nd motors...
Pretty solid points you make, I personally would only want CBS sports to watch MXGP, FS1&2 to watch supercross, and NBC sports to watch 2nd motors from the nationals. I could really do without the other "filler" channels but I guess there's no way around it they to have package them all together.
They don't have to package them all together tho. They do that to push their agenda while making you pay for it whether you agree or not. Left to true demand, 70%(rough guesstimate) of those channels wouldn't even exist.
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IF YOU HAVE DIRECTV YOU ALREADY GET MAVTV AND NBCSN
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Permeance_Flux wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2017/06/04/198984/s1200_IMG_0328.jpg[/img] Watch the races through YouTube TV. You get these channels on YouTube TV for $35 a month, no contracts involved.


Watch the races through YouTube TV. You get these channels on YouTube TV for $35 a month, no contracts involved.
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This may be a little off-topic but... 44 channels for $35/mo. works out to about $.80 per channel. Ever ask yourself why you can't just pay...
This may be a little off-topic but...

44 channels for $35/mo. works out to about $.80 per channel. Ever ask yourself why you can't just pay $.80(or even $1.00) each for the channels you actually want? Why do I need to subsidize shit like Bravo, MSNBC(PUKE), local now(?), ESPN, ESPN2, ESPN3, ESPNEWS, Fox News, CNBC, UNIVERSO(I don't even speak spanish), E!, Disney, NBC GOLF(I don't have a problem sleeping), etc., etc., etc...

At $1.00 each, I see about $4.00 worth of channels on that list that I'd even care to have.

$35.00/month for that package is highway robbery IMO.
Well how many companies own those 40 channels? Its way less than 40. So you get what Disney, NewsCorp and NBC/Universal are willing to offer bundled up together.
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[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2017/06/04/198953/s1200_Screen_Shot_2017_06_04_at_2.30.55_PM.jpg[/img] The complaint that I read over and over is that you want to do a thing the way you have always done it, and because...


The complaint that I read over and over is that you want to do a thing the way you have always done it, and because you can't, the system is wrong.

The other big one is that the $50 NBC Gold package is a step backwards, doesn't help the sport, etc. Well, nobody at NBC cares about the sport, and our numbers do not warrant a four hour live time slot every weekend. Those who run this series, MX Sports and Davey Coombs, DO care about the sport and DO work very hard to provide you with the most access possible.

I travel and relocate a lot. When I come home to my parents' house, I beg them to cancel cable. It's an awful, expensive user experience to sit down in front of a TV and flip through 100 garbage channels and to be barraged by commercials when you do find the one thing you want to watch. I think my parents pay like $220/month for this privilege. If you pay $100/month that's $1,200/year. $200/month = $2,400/year. Ok?

Here's how you do it in 2017:

1. Buy a Chromecast. It's $35 or $69 if you want to stream 4K. Plug it into an HDMI slot on your TV.

- Add the Cast browser extension to Google Chrome on your laptop or desktop.
- Add the Google Home app to your smartphone or tablet.

2. Netflix. It's $12 for their top tier plan. $8 for the lowest.

- This will stream to Chromecast from any device.
- YouTube will also stream from any device.

3. Amazon Prime. It's $100 per year ($8.25/month) and includes Prime Video. There are tons of shows and movies here that Netflix doesn't have.

- You can add HBO, Showtime, Starz, and more to your Prime account for another $15/month.

4. Hulu. $8 a month or $40/month for live TV.

5. Sling TV. Basically all of your cable channels, live, including sports, including supercross, for $25 month. The app will stream from any device to your TV.

6. NBC Sports Gold. $50/month. [Edit: $50/year. Thanks Scottie.] Motocross. Wirelessly streamed in HD from any of your devices to your Chromecast.

7. iTunes or Google Play for any show you somehow haven't found on any of these services. You can buy the current season of your favorite TV show for $20 or so.

THE BIG BOLD REAL BEAUTY OF ALL THIS is that you can cancel these services when you are not using them. You get to choose when to pay for the things you actually want to watch.

Netflix + Prime Video + HBO + Hulu + Sling TV = ~$67 per month = ~$804 annually.

That's 30% of what you pay now.

Add $50 for NBC Sports Gold and $100 to buy the complete series of Breaking Bad on iTunes and you're spending half of cable or dish and you're almost completely commercial free.

That's the price if you never cancel anything. If you have favorite shows that you watch, you can pay for a couple months at a time and cancel when the show is over. You can pay a tiny, tiny fraction of what cable costs and stream them in HD to your big TV from your iThing and browse Facebook and Vital from the same phone or tablet or laptop at the same time.

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suprtrukr425 wrote:
You forgot to add in the price of internet. $100 dollars a month where I live, only one option. Thats $1,200 a year added to your...
You forgot to add in the price of internet. $100 dollars a month where I live, only one option. Thats $1,200 a year added to your figures, which makes it over $2,000 a year total. I pay $165 a month for cable and internet, with extra sports package ($10 month, no MAVTV available here). That's less than your figures and I don't have to deal with my wife and kids trying to figure out a new system. Cable cutting doesn't make sense for everyone.
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Specially for you. Since you have posted on vital, you have been the victim. No body has it as bad as you and your cable/internet situation...
Specially for you. Since you have posted on vital, you have been the victim. No body has it as bad as you and your cable/internet situation. I really think NBC owes you a apology and a refund.
I think it's a valid point. In some places the cable/internet package is barely different in price from internet only. It does moot the discussion for those who are locked into a high minimum entry like that.

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I was just a little pissed they took the live streaming if you were already paying for the sports channels. I thought the NBC gold was for people who couldn't get the channels or didn't have cable or satellite. I liked watching the races at in my truck at work. I'm not gonna pay twice for the races. I personally think it's a great program it just kinda screwed already paying customers in my opinion.
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suprtrukr425 6/4/2017 7:11pm
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kburgie wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2017/06/04/198953/s1200_Screen_Shot_2017_06_04_at_2.30.55_PM.jpg[/img] The complaint that I read over and over is that you want to do a thing the way you have always done it, and because...


The complaint that I read over and over is that you want to do a thing the way you have always done it, and because you can't, the system is wrong.

The other big one is that the $50 NBC Gold package is a step backwards, doesn't help the sport, etc. Well, nobody at NBC cares about the sport, and our numbers do not warrant a four hour live time slot every weekend. Those who run this series, MX Sports and Davey Coombs, DO care about the sport and DO work very hard to provide you with the most access possible.

I travel and relocate a lot. When I come home to my parents' house, I beg them to cancel cable. It's an awful, expensive user experience to sit down in front of a TV and flip through 100 garbage channels and to be barraged by commercials when you do find the one thing you want to watch. I think my parents pay like $220/month for this privilege. If you pay $100/month that's $1,200/year. $200/month = $2,400/year. Ok?

Here's how you do it in 2017:

1. Buy a Chromecast. It's $35 or $69 if you want to stream 4K. Plug it into an HDMI slot on your TV.

- Add the Cast browser extension to Google Chrome on your laptop or desktop.
- Add the Google Home app to your smartphone or tablet.

2. Netflix. It's $12 for their top tier plan. $8 for the lowest.

- This will stream to Chromecast from any device.
- YouTube will also stream from any device.

3. Amazon Prime. It's $100 per year ($8.25/month) and includes Prime Video. There are tons of shows and movies here that Netflix doesn't have.

- You can add HBO, Showtime, Starz, and more to your Prime account for another $15/month.

4. Hulu. $8 a month or $40/month for live TV.

5. Sling TV. Basically all of your cable channels, live, including sports, including supercross, for $25 month. The app will stream from any device to your TV.

6. NBC Sports Gold. $50/month. [Edit: $50/year. Thanks Scottie.] Motocross. Wirelessly streamed in HD from any of your devices to your Chromecast.

7. iTunes or Google Play for any show you somehow haven't found on any of these services. You can buy the current season of your favorite TV show for $20 or so.

THE BIG BOLD REAL BEAUTY OF ALL THIS is that you can cancel these services when you are not using them. You get to choose when to pay for the things you actually want to watch.

Netflix + Prime Video + HBO + Hulu + Sling TV = ~$67 per month = ~$804 annually.

That's 30% of what you pay now.

Add $50 for NBC Sports Gold and $100 to buy the complete series of Breaking Bad on iTunes and you're spending half of cable or dish and you're almost completely commercial free.

That's the price if you never cancel anything. If you have favorite shows that you watch, you can pay for a couple months at a time and cancel when the show is over. You can pay a tiny, tiny fraction of what cable costs and stream them in HD to your big TV from your iThing and browse Facebook and Vital from the same phone or tablet or laptop at the same time.

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- Bill O'hanlon
suprtrukr425 wrote:
You forgot to add in the price of internet. $100 dollars a month where I live, only one option. Thats $1,200 a year added to your...
You forgot to add in the price of internet. $100 dollars a month where I live, only one option. Thats $1,200 a year added to your figures, which makes it over $2,000 a year total. I pay $165 a month for cable and internet, with extra sports package ($10 month, no MAVTV available here). That's less than your figures and I don't have to deal with my wife and kids trying to figure out a new system. Cable cutting doesn't make sense for everyone.
Markee wrote:
Specially for you. Since you have posted on vital, you have been the victim. No body has it as bad as you and your cable/internet situation...
Specially for you. Since you have posted on vital, you have been the victim. No body has it as bad as you and your cable/internet situation. I really think NBC owes you a apology and a refund.
Nobody was talking to you, go back under your bridge.
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I'm done with Directv. I've been with them since 2000. Got the fire tv, PlayStation vue for $65/month. Have nextflx and prime. Saving $150/month.
oldslowgolfer 6/4/2017 7:27pm
6/4/2017 7:27pm
Until all this other stuff works when you want it to work it's too frustrating and not worth the hassle. I'll pay more so when I have time to hit the couch I just turn on the TV and I don't have to reset crap pull out a laptop sign in buffer etc etc etc.
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Does anyone know of an internet tv service that has the Discovery Channel?
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oldslowgolfer wrote:
Until all this other stuff works when you want it to work it's too frustrating and not worth the hassle. I'll pay more so when I...
Until all this other stuff works when you want it to work it's too frustrating and not worth the hassle. I'll pay more so when I have time to hit the couch I just turn on the TV and I don't have to reset crap pull out a laptop sign in buffer etc etc etc.
I was on the same page until we got better internet service and a ROKU. It is just like cable less swapping between services like Netflix and Amazon Prime. It isn't for everyone and I still haven't found an answer to all of my channel wants but other than 2 or 3 channels, I don't miss cable.
az_twosmoker 6/4/2017 7:41pm
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I have everything the OP suggested and did it a while back because I was sick of my cable going up all the time. We are watching the NBA finals right now, I can watch supercross and bunch of other stuff on Sling. Did sign up for NBC Sports Gold to watch MX for the summer.

For the most part everyone already has high speed internet so to say that is an added cost is dumb because I don't pay more switching to this setup.

More people should switch imo. Good luck
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We are in the middle of a technological shift for viewable entertainment mediums. There will be some overlap instances (NBC Gold, etc.). Cable is on its way out and companies that want to be relevant after its demise, are developing cafeteria style internet streaming options. If not, then they will be left out of the equation all together.

In the not so distant future, you wont be double paying as cable will be but a memory.
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kzizok 6/4/2017 7:49pm
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BAMX wrote:
Does anyone know of an internet tv service that has the Discovery Channel?
VUE
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BAMX 6/4/2017 7:54pm
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BAMX wrote:
Does anyone know of an internet tv service that has the Discovery Channel?
kzizok wrote:
VUE
Thanks
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What makes me livid is that I already pay for NBC Sports through my DirecTV package, which always had streamed both motos live through their standard...
What makes me livid is that I already pay for NBC Sports through my DirecTV package, which always had streamed both motos live through their standard app with your package login credentials, until they released this Sports Gold BS and gave the axe to MX in their standard app. Sports Gold is awesome to everybody that isn't subscribed to cable, of course. But to axe content that's being paid for through a cable package is absolutely ridiculous.
I have DirecTV and pay for NBC Sports and quite a few other "extra cost" channels to watch racing. It is expensive. Last year I could watch The Outdoor Nationals on my computer for free because the TV schedule is always a pain in the ass to keep up with. Now they want $50.00 for that access, that is bull shit. I am getting ready to cut the cord. Most of the races are on Youtube in a few days anyway. The money most people could save by cutting the cord could easily buy a new motorcycle and other items. When I was young I never had a phone or cable TV. Why pay money for that crap. But I always had a really nice stereo system in my home and car and listened to what is now "Classic Rock" music instead of watching TV or talking on the phone. Lots of beer in the fridge and always a stash under the couch, lol.
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rancor19 6/4/2017 8:13pm
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early wrote:
Well how many companies own those 40 channels? Its way less than 40. So you get what Disney, NewsCorp and NBC/Universal are willing to offer bundled...
Well how many companies own those 40 channels? Its way less than 40. So you get what Disney, NewsCorp and NBC/Universal are willing to offer bundled up together.
They share a common goal. Whatever that is exactly is up for debate(or I don't really want to get into it right now so...). All for one, one for all...

Imagine you wanted to buy a O-ring chain that is valued at about $100 but the only place that sold quality chain bundled it with some Chinese sprockets and bars made of shit for $200 dollars. Would you buy it? Probably - if you wanted a quality chain. No difference here.

DirecTV is what, $160/mo. for 240 channels? Who really watches more than 10 or 12 channels? Nobody - that's who.

They're milking people like moto fans by making them buy just about every tier available to get this 'niche' sport which I don't believe is niche at all. You are paying for the real niche programming by not being allowed to buy ala carte. Take a look at what's available on the lowest tiers and tell me it's not rigged. Same thing with YouTube TV. Repackaging the same shit for a little less.

It's called price-fixing. And they're going to sail that ship, full steam ahead, straight into the iceberg. "Cord-cutters be damned!".


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Sounds great, but how do I watch college football and basketball, Cavs games and Browns games with that stuff? I've never found a way around that.

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WE GET THE BEST TV BACKAGE IN TEXAS BY CALLING FOR KERRY HARRIS SATELLITE SERVICE THEY EVEN GOTS THE WWE NETWORK. THEY GIVED US A FREE SHIRT IN 1 OF THE CONTESTS TO ORDER THE MOST PAPER VIEWS AND WE ALSO GET THE RACES
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Xcel 6/4/2017 11:26pm
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Except NBC effed up the casting from a mobile device. $50 and I had to watch on my phone. When casting it to my Shield or Chromecast, it showed 5min of the previous moto and then​ crashed. Used two different devices to cast. NBC sucks at this.
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WE GET THE BEST TV BACKAGE IN TEXAS BY CALLING FOR KERRY HARRIS SATELLITE SERVICE THEY EVEN GOTS THE WWE NETWORK. THEY GIVED US A FREE...
WE GET THE BEST TV BACKAGE IN TEXAS BY CALLING FOR KERRY HARRIS SATELLITE SERVICE THEY EVEN GOTS THE WWE NETWORK. THEY GIVED US A FREE SHIRT IN 1 OF THE CONTESTS TO ORDER THE MOST PAPER VIEWS AND WE ALSO GET THE RACES
TYLER YOU'VE BEEN HERE AT VITAL FOR 9 YEARS AND STILL CAN'T SPELL SUSZUKI, YET SOMEHOW "SATELLITE" IS NOT BEYOND YOUR GRASP.
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Mr. Ted wrote:
I'm done with Directv. I've been with them since 2000. Got the fire tv, PlayStation vue for $65/month. Have nextflx and prime. Saving $150/month.
This.

Amazon Fire TV Box > Roku, Chromecast, Fire Stick

VUE > Sling

I cut the cord from DirecTV over a year ago and couldn't be happier.
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I did the math also and the cost of the internet connection makes it about the same. I have mine thru Comcast and the rates go up with just internet, they are not stupid. Looking around at other carriers and the rates were even higher.
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JB 19 wrote:
Sounds great, but how do I watch college football and basketball, Cavs games and Browns games with that stuff? I've never found a way around that.
kzizok wrote:
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/network/vue/channels/
Plus a great DVR and a lot of on-demand content. A few weeks ago my wife pulled the plug on Hulu as she can watch her shows on PS Vue.

So, we're now down to Netflix / PS Vue / Internet Connection (Comcast). It's a better TV experience than what we had before for much less dinero. Cord cutter? Not entirely, but it's been a win-win for our situation.
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oldslowgolfer wrote:
Until all this other stuff works when you want it to work it's too frustrating and not worth the hassle. I'll pay more so when I...
Until all this other stuff works when you want it to work it's too frustrating and not worth the hassle. I'll pay more so when I have time to hit the couch I just turn on the TV and I don't have to reset crap pull out a laptop sign in buffer etc etc etc.
BAMX wrote:
I was on the same page until we got better internet service and a ROKU. It is just like cable less swapping between services like Netflix...
I was on the same page until we got better internet service and a ROKU. It is just like cable less swapping between services like Netflix and Amazon Prime. It isn't for everyone and I still haven't found an answer to all of my channel wants but other than 2 or 3 channels, I don't miss cable.
Funny , I had Directv since 1997. 2 months ago bought a Roku and added NetFlix to go with Amazon Prime. Now we friggin binge watch..... I always though why people would do that... Breaking Bad in a month rocked. Not to be out done, our friends did the same thing , but watched BB in 8 days.
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BobbyLight 6/5/2017 6:32am
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Step 1 : Get a $40 amazon firestick
Step 2: Put Kodi on it. Takes 10 minutes and you don't even need to hook it up to a computer or anything. My grandma could do it.
Step 3: Watch everything for free.I mean everything.

Here is a video of how to install kodi. Its super easy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKfhP-EF_TU
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BobbyLight wrote:
Step 1 : Get a $40 amazon firestick Step 2: Put Kodi on it. Takes 10 minutes and you don't even need to hook it up...
Step 1 : Get a $40 amazon firestick
Step 2: Put Kodi on it. Takes 10 minutes and you don't even need to hook it up to a computer or anything. My grandma could do it.
Step 3: Watch everything for free.I mean everything.

Here is a video of how to install kodi. Its super easy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKfhP-EF_TU
Spend the extra money and get the FireBox. Kodi runs much better on it.

Also, being a member of the Kodi community, I can tell you that Kodi does not support or endorse the pirating of copyrighted content. Those 3rd party add-ons are not native to the Kodi platform at all. That's just pure stealing content in the video you posted.

I'd be very weary of doing that if I were anyone. Sorry to be debbie dopwner here but that is against the law. There are so many ways to buy cheap content why go and steal it? Just because you can doesn't make it right. Sorry.
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What you need to do is get kodi on a fire stick. Problem solved
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BobbyLight wrote:
Step 1 : Get a $40 amazon firestick Step 2: Put Kodi on it. Takes 10 minutes and you don't even need to hook it up...
Step 1 : Get a $40 amazon firestick
Step 2: Put Kodi on it. Takes 10 minutes and you don't even need to hook it up to a computer or anything. My grandma could do it.
Step 3: Watch everything for free.I mean everything.

Here is a video of how to install kodi. Its super easy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKfhP-EF_TU
TXDirt wrote:
Spend the extra money and get the FireBox. Kodi runs much better on it. Also, being a member of the Kodi community, I can tell you...
Spend the extra money and get the FireBox. Kodi runs much better on it.

Also, being a member of the Kodi community, I can tell you that Kodi does not support or endorse the pirating of copyrighted content. Those 3rd party add-ons are not native to the Kodi platform at all. That's just pure stealing content in the video you posted.

I'd be very weary of doing that if I were anyone. Sorry to be debbie dopwner here but that is against the law. There are so many ways to buy cheap content why go and steal it? Just because you can doesn't make it right. Sorry.
I'm not familiar with Kodi, but I used to be a pirate and now I'm not. I pay to support the creators of the things I enjoy.

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