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Sodipop 5/24/2017 11:41am
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He went from the fastest factory bike in the class to the second slowest. I didn't like what I saw at hangtown. We will see if he can get on a roll
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SKlein 5/24/2017 11:57am
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kaptkaos wrote:
Looks like more of the same at Hangtown. He put himself in a big hole and now the pressure is on his back again, which he...
Looks like more of the same at Hangtown. He put himself in a big hole and now the pressure is on his back again, which he has not responded well to in tecent years.

Its not like winning the first 5 motos out of the gate like he did in his title years.

Jeremy is a good guy, hope he does well and puts that Hondaon top.

I just dont see it happenning.
I'd say he handled the pressure well by winning that 2015 title. Albeit Marvin had terrible luck we've seen it can happen to any of them (Martin bro's last summer).
EnvyMedia 5/24/2017 12:45pm
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kaptkaos wrote:
Looks like more of the same at Hangtown. He put himself in a big hole and now the pressure is on his back again, which he...
Looks like more of the same at Hangtown. He put himself in a big hole and now the pressure is on his back again, which he has not responded well to in tecent years.

Its not like winning the first 5 motos out of the gate like he did in his title years.

Jeremy is a good guy, hope he does well and puts that Hondaon top.

I just dont see it happenning.
Webb went 4-5 last year.

One race doesn't mean much at this point.
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kiwifan 5/24/2017 12:54pm
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Sodipop wrote:
He went from the fastest factory bike in the class to the second slowest. I didn't like what I saw at hangtown. We will see if...
He went from the fastest factory bike in the class to the second slowest. I didn't like what I saw at hangtown. We will see if he can get on a roll
yes lets all hit the panic button after 1 round .....

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Lightning78 5/24/2017 1:04pm
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Sodipop wrote:
He went from the fastest factory bike in the class to the second slowest. I didn't like what I saw at hangtown. We will see if...
He went from the fastest factory bike in the class to the second slowest. I didn't like what I saw at hangtown. We will see if he can get on a roll
Exactly and im surprised nobody has drawn the correlation to his results on the YZ250f

No doubt he is a top level talent but how much of his first 2 dominating title runs were influenced by the fact that he was on a bike that was head and shoulders faster than any of his competition that were riding other brands?

In a class thats all about horsepower.....
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kiwifan 5/24/2017 2:39pm
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Exactly and im surprised nobody has drawn the correlation to his results on the YZ250f No doubt he is a top level talent but how much...
Exactly and im surprised nobody has drawn the correlation to his results on the YZ250f

No doubt he is a top level talent but how much of his first 2 dominating title runs were influenced by the fact that he was on a bike that was head and shoulders faster than any of his competition that were riding other brands?

In a class thats all about horsepower.....
so you are saying the Geico Hondas are slower than the Star Yamahas?....or are you directly correlating the production YZF to the CRF?
jorgechavez 5/24/2017 2:56pm
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JMart's bike looked plenty fast to me, I honestly couldn't see anywhere that he looked under powered but with the hills this weekend I guess we'll get a pretty good representation.

I think Jeremy himself would tell you that it's not as fast as his Yamaha's but I believe the Geico bike is still plenty fast and he showed that by being the fastest rider on the track for most of the 2nd moto. His starts, as usual, are just not very good and it really hinders him.
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kaptkaos wrote:
Looks like more of the same at Hangtown. He put himself in a big hole and now the pressure is on his back again, which he...
Looks like more of the same at Hangtown. He put himself in a big hole and now the pressure is on his back again, which he has not responded well to in tecent years.

Its not like winning the first 5 motos out of the gate like he did in his title years.

Jeremy is a good guy, hope he does well and puts that Hondaon top.

I just dont see it happenning.
I think you can blame the bike for the hole he's in now. Second moto showed how fast he is.
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kaptkaos 5/24/2017 3:29pm
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Yes, we can blame the bike, and he looks fast as always. I just dont think he is turning his luck around...
Not happy to say it, I want him to do well, and I know so many people pick him to win. He has a really bad streak going right now.

He is good at Glen Helen, he can start a streak of good luck this week.
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Sodipop 5/24/2017 4:09pm
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jorgechavez wrote:
JMart's bike looked plenty fast to me, I honestly couldn't see anywhere that he looked under powered but with the hills this weekend I guess we'll...
JMart's bike looked plenty fast to me, I honestly couldn't see anywhere that he looked under powered but with the hills this weekend I guess we'll get a pretty good representation.

I think Jeremy himself would tell you that it's not as fast as his Yamaha's but I believe the Geico bike is still plenty fast and he showed that by being the fastest rider on the track for most of the 2nd moto. His starts, as usual, are just not very good and it really hinders him.
Maybe he'd tell you that if his bike was faster he'd have gone even faster
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Skuzzy29 5/24/2017 5:17pm
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Sodipop wrote:
He went from the fastest factory bike in the class to the second slowest. I didn't like what I saw at hangtown. We will see if...
He went from the fastest factory bike in the class to the second slowest. I didn't like what I saw at hangtown. We will see if he can get on a roll


Second slowest??? WTF?
EnvyMedia 5/28/2017 4:08am
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Such a slow POS Honda...



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machine 5/28/2017 6:33am
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Him and Hill are the,complete opposites, one isn't good at Sx and one isn't good,outdoors. 450 Teams unusually look for riders that are good at both.
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mxjon454 5/28/2017 1:19pm
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I'm sure he will get a ride...but the results aren't there for a top spot, he struggles st sx... Unless he blows everyone away this summer...
I'm sure he will get a ride...but the results aren't there for a top spot, he struggles st sx...

Unless he blows everyone away this summer (Forkner won't allow that)...he may be a good fit with RCH or JGR

IMO
He already has a ride for next year. He signed a 2 year deal with GEICO for the '17 and '18 season. '17 on a 250 with the option to ride a 450 next year.
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kiwifan 5/28/2017 1:30pm
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This year: New bike & bad results until 2nd @ Daytona on the Factory Honda 450. He's shown plenty of speed but then the wheels fall...
This year: New bike & bad results until 2nd @ Daytona on the Factory Honda 450. He's shown plenty of speed but then the wheels fall off in the race or practice injuries...

3 Questions

1.) How do you think he'll do outdoors on the new 250?
2.) Since he's not "pointed-out" in 250 SX yet; Does he stay on 250's for '18 West/East Coast then 450 outdoors?
3.) Or does he jump up 450 Full-time as his contract option says?
1. he wont be outdoors in 2017 on the new 250 unless Honda invokes the exemption rule like Yamaha are apparently doing (according to Vital)
2. No, he will be on a 450 in SX in 2018 ...thats my understanding anyway
3. Yes
jorgechavez 5/28/2017 2:03pm
5/28/2017 2:03pm
I think yesterday JMart showed us why he's a two time champion, the first moto no one had anything for him from the start and 2nd moto was pretty incredible how he came from the back like that, and without his own mistake he probably would have went 1-1.

PS: @Sodipop tell me again how the Geico Honda is slow. Not trying to hate man but if you're going to throw out accusations like that you've gotta be able to admit when you're wrong.
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cali11 5/28/2017 2:11pm
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Jmart was the fastest rider on the track yesterday. To bad he had bike problems in the first Moto at Hangtown. He would be right there with Osborn in points. Still a lot of points to be had, he can still win this title!
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kiwifan 5/28/2017 2:16pm
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jorgechavez wrote:
I think yesterday JMart showed us why he's a two time champion, the first moto no one had anything for him from the start and 2nd...
I think yesterday JMart showed us why he's a two time champion, the first moto no one had anything for him from the start and 2nd moto was pretty incredible how he came from the back like that, and without his own mistake he probably would have went 1-1.

PS: @Sodipop tell me again how the Geico Honda is slow. Not trying to hate man but if you're going to throw out accusations like that you've gotta be able to admit when you're wrong.
yeah that thing was hauling ass on that long straight, a pure HP start thats for sure.

Shame he slide off the track in moto 2, I am sure Osborne will make some mistakes too as the season progresses.

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USMCMXer 5/28/2017 2:38pm
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machine wrote:
Him and Hill are the,complete opposites, one isn't good at Sx and one isn't good,outdoors. 450 Teams unusually look for riders that are good at both.
Spoken like a true "fan". How many outdoor races has Hill won? Conversely, how many SX races has J-mart won? Hint: remarkably close to the same number as Hill. Nice try, but you may want to re-visit your idea of "not good"? J-Mart not consistent in SX, shit luck this year, poor starts, those are all true. Saying he isn't good is just silly.
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TheOriginalPancakee 5/28/2017 4:43pm
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machine wrote:
Him and Hill are the,complete opposites, one isn't good at Sx and one isn't good,outdoors. 450 Teams unusually look for riders that are good at both.
J mart looked good in SX on that Yamaha...tough season of SX on the Honda
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rancor19 5/28/2017 5:05pm
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Hate to be the spoiler but he's gonna win this title anyway.
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Zycki11 5/28/2017 9:45pm
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Just watched the press after glen helen. Finally a hint into the difference of bikes from jmart. He basically says his honda isnt as fast as the yamaha but it is a smoother power.

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