Eli's Strategy?

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peelout 5/4/2017 2:20pm
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Black Diesel Bomber wrote:
Dude, I'm sorry are you really that clueless. I honestly didn't know if you were serious, but it does appear you are that dumb. If you...
Dude, I'm sorry are you really that clueless. I honestly didn't know if you were serious, but it does appear you are that dumb. If you don't understand the concept you just don't understand racing period.

Did you see the Salt Lake City Race? Do you realize Tomac could have probably pulled over when leading, let everyone by, and then passed everyone again for the win? Yes, he is that dominant when he's on and no one can touch him.

Did you see the Chad Reed/Ryan Dungey incident? Do you realize Chad Reed is approx 3 seconds slower than Eli?

If you don't have the brains to piece these two situations together then we cannot help you. If he slows the pace, bunches them up, and someone gets around him, he'll just pass them right back. Meanwhile, all the dicing starts in the pack behind him. It doesn't take half a brain to figure this out.

If you've ever watched supercross, have you seen what happens behind Vince Friese when he starts blocking?? Go take a look and maybe, just maybe you'll understand.
gonna go ahead and disagree with everything you said, bro

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Black Diesel Bomber wrote:
Dude, I'm sorry are you really that clueless. I honestly didn't know if you were serious, but it does appear you are that dumb. If you...
Dude, I'm sorry are you really that clueless. I honestly didn't know if you were serious, but it does appear you are that dumb. If you don't understand the concept you just don't understand racing period.

Did you see the Salt Lake City Race? Do you realize Tomac could have probably pulled over when leading, let everyone by, and then passed everyone again for the win? Yes, he is that dominant when he's on and no one can touch him.

Did you see the Chad Reed/Ryan Dungey incident? Do you realize Chad Reed is approx 3 seconds slower than Eli?

If you don't have the brains to piece these two situations together then we cannot help you. If he slows the pace, bunches them up, and someone gets around him, he'll just pass them right back. Meanwhile, all the dicing starts in the pack behind him. It doesn't take half a brain to figure this out.

If you've ever watched supercross, have you seen what happens behind Vince Friese when he starts blocking?? Go take a look and maybe, just maybe you'll understand.
peelout wrote:
gonna go ahead and disagree with everything you said, bro [img]http://15130-presscdn-0-89.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/get-a-brain-morans.jpg[/img]
gonna go ahead and disagree with everything you said, bro

Black Diesel Bomber 5/4/2017 2:33pm
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Hahahahaha, we have a bunch of brain surgeons on Vital. Maybe you guys can help me locate a new one.
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dirtnapper 5/4/2017 2:35pm
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Black Diesel Bomber wrote:
We are on the same page, but not many others seem to think Eli can toy with the field when he's ON: http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Will-Tomac-bunch-them-up-in-Vegas,1318716 If I were...
We are on the same page, but not many others seem to think Eli can toy with the field when he's ON:

http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Will-Tomac-bunch-them-up-…

If I were Eli, I would think bunching them up behind me would be my only chance at gaining 9 points.
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Man I just don't get this whole "bunch them up" behind him.....?? :dry: You seriously think that would work? Like if he slows down no one...
Man I just don't get this whole "bunch them up" behind him.....?? Dry

You seriously think that would work? Like if he slows down no one will bother to pass, just all pile up and slow down with him? No one will get by?

Frickin stupidest thing I've heard, come on guy....Pinch
Black Diesel Bomber wrote:
Dude, I'm sorry are you really that clueless. I honestly didn't know if you were serious, but it does appear you are that dumb. If you...
Dude, I'm sorry are you really that clueless. I honestly didn't know if you were serious, but it does appear you are that dumb. If you don't understand the concept you just don't understand racing period.

Did you see the Salt Lake City Race? Do you realize Tomac could have probably pulled over when leading, let everyone by, and then passed everyone again for the win? Yes, he is that dominant when he's on and no one can touch him.

Did you see the Chad Reed/Ryan Dungey incident? Do you realize Chad Reed is approx 3 seconds slower than Eli?

If you don't have the brains to piece these two situations together then we cannot help you. If he slows the pace, bunches them up, and someone gets around him, he'll just pass them right back. Meanwhile, all the dicing starts in the pack behind him. It doesn't take half a brain to figure this out.

If you've ever watched supercross, have you seen what happens behind Vince Friese when he starts blocking?? Go take a look and maybe, just maybe you'll understand.
Sure thing there, tough guy.....Whistling

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Black Diesel Bomber wrote:
Hahahahaha, we have a bunch of brain surgeons on Vital. Maybe you guys can help me locate a new one.
What would you need a brain surgeon for?
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JSmith wrote:
Get a good start and win. Then hope Ryan crashes.
A very Dungey-esque strategy.
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gt80rider wrote:
Down by 9 and have to beat the Diesel for the championship? No easy task you might think, but... Simple, you have to knock him off...
Down by 9 and have to beat the Diesel for the championship? No easy task you might think, but...

Simple, you have to knock him off his game. How do you do that? It has been proven by everyone from J-Law to Villopodium that getting under his skin works quite well. Hound him in practice, do your best to make the same heat race, then screw with him some more. ET3 needs to send him the message of "This is MY title and I am NOT just gonna let you have it." all day long. Heck, send him a text saying "I am knocking you into section 418 row Z in the main brah!". Just do what it takes to get him thinking about anything other than the task at hand. It can be done!
When did RV ever do any dumb bullshit like that?

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As much as I want Eli to win and somehow get the title, people forget how good the Dung is at Vegas. He always seems to be at the top of his game there. I think last weeks win will give him the confidence to easily bring home the title. As others have said, I feel for the other riders come the outdoors, Eli is going to be riding with revenge on the brain......
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davistld01 5/4/2017 3:38pm
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I think Eli is done mentally. I don't think he'll crash...and I hope he won't, but I think he'll start back in the pack and stay there.

Hope I'm wrong.
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BobbyM 5/4/2017 5:46pm
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Fantasy Island syndrome going on here.... D plane. D plane
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gt757 5/4/2017 5:54pm
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step 1: pick the very first gate to the inside.
step 2: pay Grant o someone else enough to pick gate 2 and go straight instead of turning left
step 3: tell everybody Grant lost his brakes or whatever
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oldblood 5/4/2017 6:02pm
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BobbyM wrote:
Fantasy Island syndrome going on here.... D plane. D plane
Please expound. Not disagreeing of course.
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McDuff 5/4/2017 6:28pm
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Trudare69 wrote:
As much as I want Eli to win and somehow get the title, people forget how good the Dung is at Vegas. He always seems to...
As much as I want Eli to win and somehow get the title, people forget how good the Dung is at Vegas. He always seems to be at the top of his game there. I think last weeks win will give him the confidence to easily bring home the title. As others have said, I feel for the other riders come the outdoors, Eli is going to be riding with revenge on the brain......
Last weeks what?
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oldblood 5/4/2017 7:28pm
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http:// youtu.be /sdqPgXgRxkY
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Hope Grant steps up and sends RD's shroud flying in pieces Laughing

He just needs to do what he does best and ride that Kawi like he knows how to. Everything else will fall into place if it's meant to be.
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Having trouble with you tube, let's see here,
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Aceofspades 5/4/2017 10:49pm
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Eli's coming, hide your heart, girl.

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OldYZRider1 5/5/2017 5:43am
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LV is gonna be like this:



Dungey and Tomac are their teams jammers.

Dungey will have JA and MM and BB and DM and DW for blockers and Tomac will have Grant and ..... hey wait a minute??
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davistld01 wrote:
I think Eli is done mentally. I don't think he'll crash...and I hope he won't, but I think he'll start back in the pack and stay...
I think Eli is done mentally. I don't think he'll crash...and I hope he won't, but I think he'll start back in the pack and stay there.

Hope I'm wrong.
for sure he was extremely disappointed but tomac is the kind of guy who wants to go out and make a statement and make it 10 w's. he's not going to give dungey ANY hope for the outdoors.
TripleFive 5/6/2017 11:39pm
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Man I just don't get this whole "bunch them up" behind him.....?? :dry: You seriously think that would work? Like if he slows down no one...
Man I just don't get this whole "bunch them up" behind him.....?? Dry

You seriously think that would work? Like if he slows down no one will bother to pass, just all pile up and slow down with him? No one will get by?

Frickin stupidest thing I've heard, come on guy....Pinch
Do you feel like an idiot now?

Ba-em-up is EXACTLY what ELIte did.
TripleFive 5/7/2017 1:13pm
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Black Diesel Bomber,

Don't forget about the condescending dickheads in this thread too.
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ATKpilot99 5/7/2017 1:20pm
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TripleFive wrote:
Do you feel like an idiot now?

Ba-em-up is EXACTLY what ELIte did.
And it worked beautifully.
Black Diesel Bomber 5/7/2017 1:28pm
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Black Diesel Bomber,

Don't forget about the condescending dickheads in this thread too.
Ha! Yeah I forgot about this one too...just another list of Vital experts who piled on the bomber after he was taking heavy fire in the other thread.

Someone just informed me Eli actually described the bunch up strategy to a tee in the post race conference. Lol Vitards, you heard it from straight from the horses mouth:

2:20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGgHq_tKN0s

Eli fan or not, everyone should be stoked he did this. Eli could have "sprinted away" if he wanted to, and we would have had another snoozer....
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I have a weird feeling Tomac read this thread before the race
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benstone 5/7/2017 1:38pm
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TripleFive wrote:
Black Diesel Bomber,

Don't forget about the condescending dickheads in this thread too.
Black Diesel Bomber wrote:
Ha! Yeah I forgot about this one too...just another list of Vital experts who piled on the bomber after he was taking heavy fire in the...
Ha! Yeah I forgot about this one too...just another list of Vital experts who piled on the bomber after he was taking heavy fire in the other thread.

Someone just informed me Eli actually described the bunch up strategy to a tee in the post race conference. Lol Vitards, you heard it from straight from the horses mouth:

2:20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGgHq_tKN0s

Eli fan or not, everyone should be stoked he did this. Eli could have "sprinted away" if he wanted to, and we would have had another snoozer....
OP here.

Diesel - I didn't take as much shit as you, but I was right there with you on what was going to happen. Fucking glorious to have these "experts" eat shit on this. The ONLY way Eli had any chance was to have chaos happen and the only way chaos was going to happen was if he was near Dungey at the end along with as many other riders as possible and it came soooooo close to working out for him. Eli laid his strategy all out in the Pulpcast without trying to hide anything like certain other teams (*cough* *cough* KTM *cough*). He owned his strategy and if anyone thinks he's dirty, they don't know MX.

Awesome racing last night!

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