Ronnie Ford gives up the Dream?

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rrjr 3/26/2017 2:30pm
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500guy wrote:
The important thing to take from all this , apparently 2 Stroke fumes cause brain damage and people think that just because he rode a 2...
The important thing to take from all this , apparently 2 Stroke fumes cause brain damage and people think that just because he rode a 2 stroke He was living a dream.
Get with the times Bro.
Skidaddle has said over and over that 2 stokes with technology from snowmobiles run cleaner than 4 strokes.
There would be no fumes involved from 2 strokes that could cause drain bramage. Dizzy Laughing

Just because Ronnie Ford's "dream" is different than yours doesn't make it any less of a dream. Do you even have any dreams?

According to his RacerX interview, his dream was to be the oldest person to make the night show. Riding a 2 stroke was just a way to attract attention and sponsorship.
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For all the people who say he should have never be out there.What's the difference between this guy and Vicki golden? They both never had times to get in the night show. I didn't see all this talk about how she shouldn't have been out there. Everyone thought it was a cool story. This guy has a cool story as well. Whys everyone around have to hate because some is out there doing something good.
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For all the people who say he should have never be out there.What's the difference between this guy and Vicki golden? They both never had times...
For all the people who say he should have never be out there.What's the difference between this guy and Vicki golden? They both never had times to get in the night show. I didn't see all this talk about how she shouldn't have been out there. Everyone thought it was a cool story. This guy has a cool story as well. Whys everyone around have to hate because some is out there doing something good.
Not much difference between the two. Both rode like they had vaginas.
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Not much difference between the two. Both rode like they had vaginas.
VG would have lapped him, 2stroke gas causes brain damage.

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rrjr 3/26/2017 3:09pm
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rutcross wrote:
Not much difference between the two. Both rode like they had vaginas.
You should make that your signature. Funny.

I'm sure hers is much nicer. Wink
motoxxx599 3/26/2017 4:26pm
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ge217 wrote:
For all the people who say he should have never be out there.What's the difference between this guy and Vicki golden? They both never had times...
For all the people who say he should have never be out there.What's the difference between this guy and Vicki golden? They both never had times to get in the night show. I didn't see all this talk about how she shouldn't have been out there. Everyone thought it was a cool story. This guy has a cool story as well. Whys everyone around have to hate because some is out there doing something good.
Im not a VG fan whatsoever and strongly disliked the attention she was getting while barely cracking the top 50, but VG would run circles around this guy. She had most of the track down each week, just the whoops were her kryptonite. I saw her tripling in the rhythms at most races. His guy rolls most of the track.
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ge217 wrote:
For all the people who say he should have never be out there.What's the difference between this guy and Vicki golden? They both never had times...
For all the people who say he should have never be out there.What's the difference between this guy and Vicki golden? They both never had times to get in the night show. I didn't see all this talk about how she shouldn't have been out there. Everyone thought it was a cool story. This guy has a cool story as well. Whys everyone around have to hate because some is out there doing something good.
The difference was she was actually close a few times, and was regularly faster than several other riders. He is clearly a step or 2 below the next slowest rider.
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ge217 3/26/2017 5:53pm
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A few people have responded.

The point is when you really look at it. They both where in the way of faster riders. Both didn't do all the rhythms . Both never had fast enough times. Speaking of times. I remember just little while back everything was stoked bc he was only like 6 seconds from the making the night show. One great praised , one gets hated on. (Edit added this last sentence)

People just want to hate just because. Over 75% of the keyboard pounders here couldn't even do what the guy has done this season.
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I find this pretty simple. There should be a threshold with the first timed practice where if you are a defined % behind the top qualifier, you are automatically DQ'd. This makes the second practice far more "open" for everyone. I think sometimes we forget this is the pinnacle of the sport, not a local fair race.
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jbrown15 3/26/2017 9:27pm
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Like I've said before I don't get, the closest he ever came to making the night show was within 7secs of the 40th place guy. He had no business being out there, at the very best he should have been trying his hand at AX not SX. Jesus at Daytona he was 40secs slower than the 40th place rider.

I'm not a hater, just a realest.
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More like he lives on Elm Street.
EnvyMedia 3/26/2017 10:52pm
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ge217 wrote:
A few people have responded. The point is when you really look at it. They both where in the way of faster riders. Both didn't do...
A few people have responded.

The point is when you really look at it. They both where in the way of faster riders. Both didn't do all the rhythms . Both never had fast enough times. Speaking of times. I remember just little while back everything was stoked bc he was only like 6 seconds from the making the night show. One great praised , one gets hated on. (Edit added this last sentence)

People just want to hate just because. Over 75% of the keyboard pounders here couldn't even do what the guy has done this season.
There was a lot of hate on Golden as well.
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jbrown15 wrote:
Like I've said before I don't get, the closest he ever came to making the night show was within 7secs of the 40th place guy. He...
Like I've said before I don't get, the closest he ever came to making the night show was within 7secs of the 40th place guy. He had no business being out there, at the very best he should have been trying his hand at AX not SX. Jesus at Daytona he was 40secs slower than the 40th place rider.

I'm not a hater, just a realest.
Please look at timing again. This must be alternative facts? Daytona info not even close to being factual.
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ge217 wrote:
A few people have responded. The point is when you really look at it. They both where in the way of faster riders. Both didn't do...
A few people have responded.

The point is when you really look at it. They both where in the way of faster riders. Both didn't do all the rhythms . Both never had fast enough times. Speaking of times. I remember just little while back everything was stoked bc he was only like 6 seconds from the making the night show. One great praised , one gets hated on. (Edit added this last sentence)

People just want to hate just because. Over 75% of the keyboard pounders here couldn't even do what the guy has done this season.
Seven seconds from making the night show.
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Joe Schmoe 3/27/2017 10:10am
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ge217 wrote:
A few people have responded. The point is when you really look at it. They both where in the way of faster riders. Both didn't do...
A few people have responded.

The point is when you really look at it. They both where in the way of faster riders. Both didn't do all the rhythms . Both never had fast enough times. Speaking of times. I remember just little while back everything was stoked bc he was only like 6 seconds from the making the night show. One great praised , one gets hated on. (Edit added this last sentence)

People just want to hate just because. Over 75% of the keyboard pounders here couldn't even do what the guy has done this season.
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There was a lot of hate on Golden as well.
I don't think most of it was directly on Golden herself. It was on the media for hyping her up for no other reason than because she sits to piss. No one knows who actually qualified 40th at each of the races where she attempted. Not necessarily her fault.
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As long as he holds his line, he has the right to pursue his dream. The faster guys can go around.
miketherider 3/27/2017 10:28am
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AMA roadracing has a 107% rule; you must be within 107% of the fastest recorded time in a qualifying session to actually qualify on the grid.

Supercross would be tough, but let's say the slowest lap was 65 seconds. That means you would have to qualify in 69.55 seconds to be within 107%. Even if you loosen it to say, 110%, that's 71.5 seconds.

NOT 7+ seconds. Even in qualifying, it's dangerous.
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miketherider wrote:
AMA roadracing has a 107% rule; you must be within 107% of the fastest recorded time in a qualifying session to actually qualify on the grid...
AMA roadracing has a 107% rule; you must be within 107% of the fastest recorded time in a qualifying session to actually qualify on the grid.

Supercross would be tough, but let's say the slowest lap was 65 seconds. That means you would have to qualify in 69.55 seconds to be within 107%. Even if you loosen it to say, 110%, that's 71.5 seconds.

NOT 7+ seconds. Even in qualifying, it's dangerous.
That is definitely a better system but I think they are already struggling to fill the gates and this would thin the field even further. I think if they want to attack this problem with a solution like this, they need to fix the thin entry list problem first.

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ge217 3/27/2017 11:43am
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Seven seconds from making the night show.
Yes, someone already pointed that out. Has no one else ever been 7+ seconds the 40th fastest time?

Ronnie hasn't been the slowest guy at these rounds. Why not the be stink about those guys. At one of the rounds a guy was 40 seconds off in the 250s. Im not saying you are bashing the guy. I think you've stayed pretty neutral on it. Why do people have to hate on this guy for his efforts? Ama did give him his pro license to race sx... So if they feel he shouldn't have been out there, why even issue the license?

A1 250's last two guys 6 and 7 sec off. 450's 5 guys 7sec off.

San Diego 250's 3 guys 7+ off, one of those guys 30 sec off. 450's 5 guys 7+ sec off. Ronnie was only 22, not 30.

A2 250's one guy right at 6.5 two right at 6 off, 450's two rider 7+ sec off few at 5 . Ronnie was 13 off.

Phenix 250's 5 guys 7+ sec off. 450's 3 guys 7+ sec off. Ill admit bad showing for Ronnie here.

Oakland 250's one guy 17 sec off. 450's 3 guys 7 off Ronnie 20 off.

Minneapolis 250's one guy 27 sec off. 450's ronnie at 11 sec off.

Atlanta 250's two guys 7+ off, one of the two was 40 sec off. 450's two guys 7+ off, Ronnie was only 12 off.

Toronto 250's one 8.5 off. 450's Ronnie made it bc of entry count.

Daytona 250's no 7+, one guy at 6.4. 450's two at 5 off, only Ronnie was off. Bad one here as well

Indy 250's no 7+, one guy at 5. 450's Ronnie 6.6 off

Detroit 250's one guy 7 sec off. 450's one guy 5 sec off, no show for Ronnie.


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? wrote:
Please look at timing again. This must be alternative facts? Daytona info not even close to being factual.
http://www.amasupercross.com/

Go have a look for yourself, look at the PDF archives. They show all of the combined qualifying results for every race, he never even got within 5sec per lap of even making the night show on his best night.

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jbrown15 3/27/2017 1:10pm
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ge217 wrote:
Yes, someone already pointed that out. Has no one else ever been 7+ seconds the 40th fastest time? Ronnie hasn't been the slowest guy at these...
Yes, someone already pointed that out. Has no one else ever been 7+ seconds the 40th fastest time?

Ronnie hasn't been the slowest guy at these rounds. Why not the be stink about those guys. At one of the rounds a guy was 40 seconds off in the 250s. Im not saying you are bashing the guy. I think you've stayed pretty neutral on it. Why do people have to hate on this guy for his efforts? Ama did give him his pro license to race sx... So if they feel he shouldn't have been out there, why even issue the license?

A1 250's last two guys 6 and 7 sec off. 450's 5 guys 7sec off.

San Diego 250's 3 guys 7+ off, one of those guys 30 sec off. 450's 5 guys 7+ sec off. Ronnie was only 22, not 30.

A2 250's one guy right at 6.5 two right at 6 off, 450's two rider 7+ sec off few at 5 . Ronnie was 13 off.

Phenix 250's 5 guys 7+ sec off. 450's 3 guys 7+ sec off. Ill admit bad showing for Ronnie here.

Oakland 250's one guy 17 sec off. 450's 3 guys 7 off Ronnie 20 off.

Minneapolis 250's one guy 27 sec off. 450's ronnie at 11 sec off.

Atlanta 250's two guys 7+ off, one of the two was 40 sec off. 450's two guys 7+ off, Ronnie was only 12 off.

Toronto 250's one 8.5 off. 450's Ronnie made it bc of entry count.

Daytona 250's no 7+, one guy at 6.4. 450's two at 5 off, only Ronnie was off. Bad one here as well

Indy 250's no 7+, one guy at 5. 450's Ronnie 6.6 off

Detroit 250's one guy 7 sec off. 450's one guy 5 sec off, no show for Ronnie.


You're right that he hasn't been the slowest guy in the stadium racing. But he's been the slowest guy trying to make the night show in the 450 class for every round he's been at. And at times he was over 10sec slower than the second slowest guy in the 450 class. The closest he's ever come to even making the night show was still 5secs too slow, and at over 50% of the rounds he's over 10secs off of the 40th place guy.

I don't see how some guys can say this is just hate and not the fact that it could be really dangerous?

I can admire his dream of trying to make the night show at his age, but it ain't gonna happen.
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It's not the bike.

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Skidaddle wrote:
It's not the bike.

Part of it was.


EnvyMedia 3/27/2017 1:53pm
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Joe Schmoe wrote:
I don't think most of it was directly on Golden herself. It was on the media for hyping her up for no other reason than because...
I don't think most of it was directly on Golden herself. It was on the media for hyping her up for no other reason than because she sits to piss. No one knows who actually qualified 40th at each of the races where she attempted. Not necessarily her fault.
Indirect hate or direct hate. It's not like many people on here were rooting for her either.
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ML512 wrote:
Seven seconds from making the night show.
ge217 wrote:
Yes, someone already pointed that out. Has no one else ever been 7+ seconds the 40th fastest time? Ronnie hasn't been the slowest guy at these...
Yes, someone already pointed that out. Has no one else ever been 7+ seconds the 40th fastest time?

Ronnie hasn't been the slowest guy at these rounds. Why not the be stink about those guys. At one of the rounds a guy was 40 seconds off in the 250s. Im not saying you are bashing the guy. I think you've stayed pretty neutral on it. Why do people have to hate on this guy for his efforts? Ama did give him his pro license to race sx... So if they feel he shouldn't have been out there, why even issue the license?

A1 250's last two guys 6 and 7 sec off. 450's 5 guys 7sec off.

San Diego 250's 3 guys 7+ off, one of those guys 30 sec off. 450's 5 guys 7+ sec off. Ronnie was only 22, not 30.

A2 250's one guy right at 6.5 two right at 6 off, 450's two rider 7+ sec off few at 5 . Ronnie was 13 off.

Phenix 250's 5 guys 7+ sec off. 450's 3 guys 7+ sec off. Ill admit bad showing for Ronnie here.

Oakland 250's one guy 17 sec off. 450's 3 guys 7 off Ronnie 20 off.

Minneapolis 250's one guy 27 sec off. 450's ronnie at 11 sec off.

Atlanta 250's two guys 7+ off, one of the two was 40 sec off. 450's two guys 7+ off, Ronnie was only 12 off.

Toronto 250's one 8.5 off. 450's Ronnie made it bc of entry count.

Daytona 250's no 7+, one guy at 6.4. 450's two at 5 off, only Ronnie was off. Bad one here as well

Indy 250's no 7+, one guy at 5. 450's Ronnie 6.6 off

Detroit 250's one guy 7 sec off. 450's one guy 5 sec off, no show for Ronnie.


Difference in it is, the guys who are 7+ seconds off are racing the round or 2 closest to their homes. Ronnie traveled the entire series.
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I understand both sides of it all. I won't hate on him simply because he tried to qualify and sometimes got better and then when whoever stepped in and said "no more" he left and didn't cause a scene or get on here and complain about it. He gave it a go until wasn't allowed too.
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okieonayamaha wrote:
I understand both sides of it all. I won't hate on him simply because he tried to qualify and sometimes got better and then when whoever...
I understand both sides of it all. I won't hate on him simply because he tried to qualify and sometimes got better and then when whoever stepped in and said "no more" he left and didn't cause a scene or get on here and complain about it. He gave it a go until wasn't allowed too.
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jbrown15 wrote:
http://www.amasupercross.com/ Go have a look for yourself, look at the PDF archives. They show all of the combined qualifying results for every race, he never even...
http://www.amasupercross.com/

Go have a look for yourself, look at the PDF archives. They show all of the combined qualifying results for every race, he never even got within 5sec per lap of even making the night show on his best night.

Ronnie Ford made the night show in Toronto. Lined up on the gate and after the start he pulled off the track in the first turn.
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rrjr 3/27/2017 6:08pm
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Skidaddle wrote:
It's not the bike.

Just think how much better he would have done on a snowmobile.








Still waiting on those CARB reports.
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miketherider wrote:
AMA roadracing has a 107% rule; you must be within 107% of the fastest recorded time in a qualifying session to actually qualify on the grid...
AMA roadracing has a 107% rule; you must be within 107% of the fastest recorded time in a qualifying session to actually qualify on the grid.

Supercross would be tough, but let's say the slowest lap was 65 seconds. That means you would have to qualify in 69.55 seconds to be within 107%. Even if you loosen it to say, 110%, that's 71.5 seconds.

NOT 7+ seconds. Even in qualifying, it's dangerous.
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That is definitely a better system but I think they are already struggling to fill the gates and this would thin the field even further. I...
That is definitely a better system but I think they are already struggling to fill the gates and this would thin the field even further. I think if they want to attack this problem with a solution like this, they need to fix the thin entry list problem first.
I don't think they're struggling to fill the gates. Only in Toronto, where the border crossing dissuades many privateers, have there been fewer than 40 entries. Most events are in the mid 50s. With 20 healthy factory riders in the 450 class, there is room for only a couple of privateers. Last week it was Schmidt and Chisholm, with sometimes-qualifiers like Ray, Enticknap, Starling,Catanzaro, Nagy, Gilmore, etc...not making the show. Then there is another group that rarely come close. If you're a privateer who can't run with the guys I just listed, who end up a couple laps down anyway, you would be better off working on your speed full time until you could compete for one of the few spots available, then show up at the races.

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