Ronnie Ford gives up the Dream?

rrjr wrote:

Ronnie Ford made the night show in Toronto. Lined up on the gate and after the start he pulled off the track in the first turn.

rrjr wrote:

Ronnie Ford made the night show in Toronto. Lined up on the gate and after the start he pulled off the track in the first turn.

jbrown15 wrote:

http://archives.amasupercross.com/xml/SX/events/S1745/S1QCOVR.pdf That's funny because they don't even list him in the qualifying times. I'm guess this was the weekend he would have gotten into the night...

http://archives.amasupercross.com/xml/SX/events/S1745/S1QCOVR.pdf

That's funny because they don't even list him in the qualifying times. I'm guess this was the weekend he would have gotten into the night show because they didn't have 40 rides and they told him he couldn't race.

So he didn't really earn his way into the night show.

okieonayamaha wrote:

I understand both sides of it all. I won't hate on him simply because he tried to qualify and sometimes got better and then when whoever...

I understand both sides of it all. I won't hate on him simply because he tried to qualify and sometimes got better and then when whoever stepped in and said "no more" he left and didn't cause a scene or get on here and complain about it. He gave it a go until wasn't allowed too.

jbrown15 wrote:

You're right that he hasn't been the slowest guy in the stadium racing. But he's been the slowest guy trying to make the night show in...

You're right that he hasn't been the slowest guy in the stadium racing. But he's been the slowest guy trying to make the night show in the 450 class for every round he's been at. And at times he was over 10sec slower than the second slowest guy in the 450 class. The closest he's ever come to even making the night show was still 5secs too slow, and at over 50% of the rounds he's over 10secs off of the 40th place guy.

I don't see how some guys can say this is just hate and not the fact that it could be really dangerous?

I can admire his dream of trying to make the night show at his age, but it ain't gonna happen.

jbrown15 wrote:

You're right that he hasn't been the slowest guy in the stadium racing. But he's been the slowest guy trying to make the night show in...

You're right that he hasn't been the slowest guy in the stadium racing. But he's been the slowest guy trying to make the night show in the 450 class for every round he's been at. And at times he was over 10sec slower than the second slowest guy in the 450 class. The closest he's ever come to even making the night show was still 5secs too slow, and at over 50% of the rounds he's over 10secs off of the 40th place guy.

I don't see how some guys can say this is just hate and not the fact that it could be really dangerous?

I can admire his dream of trying to make the night show at his age, but it ain't gonna happen.

ge217 wrote:

It is hate. You should have a look at times. Othesr on here should look as well. Every year of supercross there is a guy/guys that...

It is hate. You should have a look at times. Othesr on here should look as well. Every year of supercross there is a guy/guys that have laps times almost the same as Ronnies. Some SLOWER and some a little faster. I don't really see Ronnie being out there to be that dangerous when you take in the fact that others are trying to qualify that are slower, really close in speed, and just a little fast like 1/2 sec than Ronnies times. AMA did issue all those license . If you are issued one, you have ever right to be out there.

You would be surprised if you looked at lap times. Ten plus guys a year perform just like Ronnie. You don't see those guys getting hated on. How many people can do sx at his age? How many can even ride sx on this forum?

Dude is out there on a full blown sx track at what 42? Being only 10 seconds off the top 40 fastest time isn't really that bad when you think about the amount of people that can't even ride sx. His dream of making a night show on time could happen. If he put in a year of work on a sx track. I would be willing to bet his times would get way better and be way closer to the top 40.

rrjr wrote:

Wrong. He was the 40th fastest qualifier out of 40 riders. He did make it into the night show. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2017/03/28/184248/s1200_ronnie.jpg[/img]

Wrong. He was the 40th fastest qualifier out of 40 riders. He did make it into the night show.

jbrown15 wrote:

Are you sure he qualified because he was the 40th fastest guy, or did he qualify because they only had 39 riders for the night show?

GangGreen wrote:

It is not his fault if he makes the "Night Show", it signals a bigger problem with the sport. You people are missing the 10,000 ft...

It is not his fault if he makes the "Night Show", it signals a bigger problem with the sport. You people are missing the 10,000 ft view.

Why are there not more local professional guys trying to qualify?

Could it be the minuscule pro purse, shitty promoters, the ridiculous Double-Displacement Rule, 450cc too big, Four-Strokes too costly, Rider's staying Novice to be a Loretta Lynn’s National Champ?
A few weeks back at a sweet track, Cow Branch MX in NC, there were 45 guys during a Saturday practice day. The FASTEST rider there that day was parked next to us. He casually mentioned he was preparing for 450cc Novice at Loretta Lynn's. Does anyone else not think that this is part of the problem???????

rrjr wrote:

Reading comprehension. You should try it. I said he was the 40th fastest rider out of 40 riders. That means there were only 40 riders at...

Reading comprehension. You should try it.

I said he was the 40th fastest rider out of 40 riders. That means there were only 40 riders at the race. Regardless of how fast or slow his qualifying time was, the AMA/FIM did not tell him he couldn't race like you claim.

BobPA wrote:

Well if he was faster then a bunch of belly aching vet riders I see no issue...

Skidaddle wrote:

If California still had racing 5 days/nights a week, nobody but factory dudes would be at the big races. They would all be making a great...

If California still had racing 5 days/nights a week, nobody but factory dudes would be at the big races.

They would all be making a great living racing local weekend races, weekday night races etc. They might hit a few nats or SX's within say a 10-12 hour drive.

TXDirt wrote:

Why should he have to give up his dream if Davalos can start his second decade as a lites racer?

TXDirt wrote:

Why should he have to give up his dream if Davalos can start his second decade as a lites racer?

ML512 wrote:

Troll.

rrjr wrote:

Reading comprehension. You should try it. I said he was the 40th fastest rider out of 40 riders. That means there were only 40 riders at...

Reading comprehension. You should try it.

I said he was the 40th fastest rider out of 40 riders. That means there were only 40 riders at the race. Regardless of how fast or slow his qualifying time was, the AMA/FIM did not tell him he couldn't race like you claim.

jbrown15 wrote:

My reading comprehension is fine, my original reply to your comment was that he didn't earn his way into the night show for the Toronto race...

My reading comprehension is fine, my original reply to your comment was that he didn't earn his way into the night show for the Toronto race and that's still true. He got in because there was only 40 riders including himself. And something had to be up because if you look at the AMA official archive results something doesn't add up.

http://archives.amasupercross.com/2017/index.html?EventID=S1745

They have him listed on the entry list, they don't list him with a qualifying time, he didn't line up for any of the heat races, or the semi heat races. Then he lines up for the LCQ so he can collect his cash for making the LCQ, starts and then pulls right off and doesn't complete a lap. All of that would indicate that the AMA told him he couldn't race but they let him line up for the LCQ to collect his money for making the LCQ. You do realize that guys get money just for lining up for the LCQ right.

Starcrossed wrote:

He lined up and turned off in the first heat race, not the LCQ...if I remember correctly. However he was not listed in any of the...

He lined up and turned off in the first heat race, not the LCQ...if I remember correctly. However he was not listed in any of the results sheets for the qualifying sessions. Seems like they just decided to let him go to the gate to fulfill part of his dream, photo op, whatever...but he wasn't going to race. What they should have done is yank his SX license at A1, and tell him that he has to go thru Arenacross to get his points, which is unlikely to have happened. The guy slipped thru the cracks in the system, and ran with it for all it was worth, making a mockery of an elite level sport in the process. I'd like to see if he could even qualify for the night show in Arenacross. It's fortunate that he never got injured, or directly caused any injuries to other riders. This was an experiment that went on way too long. Granted he was much closer by round 10 or 11, but clearly didn't belong out there.

Starcrossed wrote:

He lined up and turned off in the first heat race, not the LCQ...if I remember correctly. However he was not listed in any of the...

He lined up and turned off in the first heat race, not the LCQ...if I remember correctly. However he was not listed in any of the results sheets for the qualifying sessions. Seems like they just decided to let him go to the gate to fulfill part of his dream, photo op, whatever...but he wasn't going to race. What they should have done is yank his SX license at A1, and tell him that he has to go thru Arenacross to get his points, which is unlikely to have happened. The guy slipped thru the cracks in the system, and ran with it for all it was worth, making a mockery of an elite level sport in the process. I'd like to see if he could even qualify for the night show in Arenacross. It's fortunate that he never got injured, or directly caused any injuries to other riders. This was an experiment that went on way too long. Granted he was much closer by round 10 or 11, but clearly didn't belong out there.

GangGreen wrote:

It is not his fault if he makes the "Night Show", it signals a bigger problem with the sport. You people are missing the 10,000 ft...

It is not his fault if he makes the "Night Show", it signals a bigger problem with the sport. You people are missing the 10,000 ft view.

Why are there not more local professional guys trying to qualify?

Could it be the minuscule pro purse, shitty promoters, the ridiculous Double-Displacement Rule, 450cc too big, Four-Strokes too costly, Rider's staying Novice to be a Loretta Lynn’s National Champ?
A few weeks back at a sweet track, Cow Branch MX in NC, there were 45 guys during a Saturday practice day. The FASTEST rider there that day was parked next to us. He casually mentioned he was preparing for 450cc Novice at Loretta Lynn's. Does anyone else not think that this is part of the problem???????

steveada wrote:

[b]Why are there not more local professional guys trying to qualify? [/b] Because this isn't the local hot summer nights race series. They have enough guys...

Why are there not more local professional guys trying to qualify?

Because this isn't the local hot summer nights race series. They have enough guys who are serious about it to fill up all the practice sessions and fill the gates with quality riders.

"The FASTEST rider there that day was parked next to us. He casually mentioned he was preparing for 450cc Novice at Loretta Lynn's."

There is no 450 Novice class at LL's, or any other novice class for that matter.

TheOriginalPancakee wrote:

Wasn't this dude like 10 or more seconds offf the LAST qualifier?

TheOriginalPancakee wrote:

Wasn't this dude like 10 or more seconds offf the LAST qualifier?

ge217 wrote:

You don't read well huh? Its posted above. you could have answered your own question...

steveada wrote:

[b]Why are there not more local professional guys trying to qualify? [/b] Because this isn't the local hot summer nights race series. They have enough guys...

Why are there not more local professional guys trying to qualify?

Because this isn't the local hot summer nights race series. They have enough guys who are serious about it to fill up all the practice sessions and fill the gates with quality riders.

"The FASTEST rider there that day was parked next to us. He casually mentioned he was preparing for 450cc Novice at Loretta Lynn's."

There is no 450 Novice class at LL's, or any other novice class for that matter.

GangGreen wrote:

Sorry, I mistyped......... [b]450 C, 450 Novice, same thing at most motocross tracks[/b].... Not worth arguing about. Seems ridiculous to have a championship at that level...

Sorry, I mistyped......... 450 C, 450 Novice, same thing at most motocross tracks.... Not worth arguing about. Seems ridiculous to have a championship at that level. It'd be like seeing who's the best "2nd time ever" Bowler.

The AMA cannot be expected to weed out these guys. Heck, there have been 13 different types of penalties from those jackholes, (Black Flags, Suspensions, Probation, Positions Taken Away, Last Gate Pick in Main, Warnings )

Steveada wrote, "They have enough guys who are serious about it to fill up all the practice sessions and fill the gates with quality riders".

If they did, someone 7 seconds off the pace would NEVER make the evening show at Supercross. They didn't even have C Group practice sessions at Daytona or Indianapolis.

motoxxx599 wrote:

Garrett, did you ever try your hand at SX? If so did you make the night show?