Does Axel Hodges race?

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3/24/2017 9:55am
Haters gonna hate. Maybe he doesn't want to race? Why race to make peanuts when you can show up to xgames twice a year, get paid more, and have huge sponsors like Hot Pockets?

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3/24/2017 9:59am Edited Date/Time 3/24/2017 10:00am
I'm all for him getting paid to do what he loves and I'm certainly not a hater. But honestly would he get all of this same coverage and money if it wasn't for his brother Dirt Shark? I'm sure that's the biggest reason he gets money from Monster.

I think it's refreshing to see that you can make a living riding a dirt bike even if you aren't a top SX or MX guy but at the same time that money could be going to an up and comer who's struggling to race because of money couldn't?
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3/24/2017 9:59am
Throws leg over dirtbike, has fun and ends up making a living out of it. I've seen kids whose parents have an "in" with an industry and pissed it away. Good on him for making the most out of the opportunity he has to do what he seems to love. We all threw a leg over a bike to have fun anyway. Racing is just a byproduct of the sport and always will be IMO.
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RonJon wrote:
The people that hate on someone like Axell are just jealous. I promise everyone on this board would killl to live like he does at 20...
The people that hate on someone like Axell are just jealous. I promise everyone on this board would killl to live like he does at 20 years old. I think it says something that the sport might be heading in the right/a good direction if someone can make a name for himself just for what he can post on social media. The whole freestyle movement is dead. This new group of guys free riding are bringing back a huge part of motocross that we were losing. If it sells more bikes and gets more people looking at our sport I'm all for it. Core moto guys go oh a thousand guys can do a wheelie and throw a whip but not everyone can put together an entertaining like he and his crew do.
Uhhh what is the difference between the modern freeriders or the old school freeriders? Watch old Crusty and Terrifirma videos and you will see all the "freestyle" guys doing the same stuff Hodges's and Durham are doing now. The old school freeriders got caught up in freestyle comps because there was a lot of money to be had. After a bunch of years the fad wore off so now they are back making booters in the hills.

I've got nothing against the whip guys making money, it's cool someone can make a living just doing wheelies and whips. I feel like the whip fad is going to die off though, every video I watch I feel like it is the same turn down whip for 3 minutes. It's cool, I certainly cannot do it, but I miss the old video of watching dudes flat out shred turns and rough straights.

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3/24/2017 10:17am Edited Date/Time 3/24/2017 11:13am
Huge difference in motocross and what dirt shark is all about. It's not about moto it's about selling Monster Energy.

Edit: ML elaborates for me below
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TannerMXer wrote, " Who is his chick?"

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3/24/2017 10:33am
Is it bad I don't even know what Dirt Shark is?
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Do you get paid each time you bang your old lady? Does it stop you anyway? If you could get paid to do it just the mediocre way you do it now, wouldn't that be sweet? But if you could get paid a little more at the expense of actually having to try and care about it, would you? Maybe, maybe not.

This is all in good fun so don't nobody go and get butthurt! Laughing

Also, that's not to say that what Axell does is mediocre or doesn't require work, he's just very skilled and does his thing and gets paid.
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3/24/2017 10:57am Edited Date/Time 3/24/2017 11:16am
No hate from me! Lots of these guys make good money having fun.

Lots of " OEM Sponsored" aka, Factory Dudes, make good money riding and promoting product in other sports without racing.
Sure, Racing guys make a decent living also, but more people in general make the same or more by appealing to all those who ride for fun.

They have all the same sponsors racers do, gear, boots, helmets, goggles, etc etc and get paid to promote just the same.

FLY Racing was selling lots of stuff to sled guys long before they were a household brand in mo

Bottom guy is a backcountry skier who got everyone to sponsor him.
"Hey, I need sleds to get to the backcountry, and I'll jump it off cliffs also!"







https://youtu.be/BtV9Sl1KJk8
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jbrown15 wrote:
I'm all for him getting paid to do what he loves and I'm certainly not a hater. But honestly would he get all of this same...
I'm all for him getting paid to do what he loves and I'm certainly not a hater. But honestly would he get all of this same coverage and money if it wasn't for his brother Dirt Shark? I'm sure that's the biggest reason he gets money from Monster.

I think it's refreshing to see that you can make a living riding a dirt bike even if you aren't a top SX or MX guy but at the same time that money could be going to an up and comer who's struggling to race because of money couldn't?
In this case, a brand is going to spend the money where it gets exposure. Core viewers could argue "well what if that money went to a struggling rider"...it wouldn't, period. A brand like Monster already sinks a ton of money into racing at the core Supercross/Motocross level, grassroots Amateur Nationals and more. In this case, someone like Bereman or Hodges reaches outside the core racer group to someone who's just more into that kind of scene. Monster wants to reach all the eyes they can and just sponsoring Supercross riders isn't going to do that. As much as us core mx fans hate it, the wheelie boy/bro/whip/stoppie/burnout harley/whatever you want to call it crowd is more into what Bereman, Hodges, Durham or Twitch is doing. So Monster spends money supporting these guys as well, especially to shoot videos that get more views than a lot of our core racer projects do.

It's one of those cases where in certain areas you could ask a few random people if they know who Ken Roczen is and who Jeremy "Twitch" Stenberg is.... You're going to run into some people who know who Twitch is but don't know K-Roc and vice-versa.
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3/24/2017 11:04am
Why do pro MXers make money? People pay to watch and the sponsors want those eyeballs.

Why does Axell make money? People pay to watch and the sponsors want those eyeballs.
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3/24/2017 11:07am
ML512 wrote:
In this case, a brand is going to spend the money where it gets exposure. Core viewers could argue "well what if that money went to...
In this case, a brand is going to spend the money where it gets exposure. Core viewers could argue "well what if that money went to a struggling rider"...it wouldn't, period. A brand like Monster already sinks a ton of money into racing at the core Supercross/Motocross level, grassroots Amateur Nationals and more. In this case, someone like Bereman or Hodges reaches outside the core racer group to someone who's just more into that kind of scene. Monster wants to reach all the eyes they can and just sponsoring Supercross riders isn't going to do that. As much as us core mx fans hate it, the wheelie boy/bro/whip/stoppie/burnout harley/whatever you want to call it crowd is more into what Bereman, Hodges, Durham or Twitch is doing. So Monster spends money supporting these guys as well, especially to shoot videos that get more views than a lot of our core racer projects do.

It's one of those cases where in certain areas you could ask a few random people if they know who Ken Roczen is and who Jeremy "Twitch" Stenberg is.... You're going to run into some people who know who Twitch is but don't know K-Roc and vice-versa.
Nailed it.

Monster is in the business to make money. A lot of it.

Core MX fans would love the $$$ to roll into a B/C level team or a couple privateers, but a kid like Axell or Tyler are going to sell more cans of Monster.

Think of where the racing side of the sport would be (both am and pro) if Monster wasn't in the picture.

Rather than complaining about what they aren't doing, I think more need to be thankful they are pumping as much money into the sport as they are...regardless of the who/what/when/where/how.
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Multiple people keep bringing up that he's gotten this opportunity because of his brother, or because of his parents, monster, etc. Well...get over it. Who cares? What do ya'll expect from the kid? Is he supposed to say, "no thanks, I don't deserve this so I'm just gonna pass." Get real, folks. And let's not believe for a minute that a pretty large percentage of people that are involved in this sport in the first place aren't exactly in the poor house. Sure, there are exceptions so go ahead save the rags to riches stories. There is nothing wrong with this kid being in the right place at the right time and capitalizing on it. It happens in every sport, industry, genre, etc. and always will. If that bothers you, then I hate to break it to you but you're gonna be very upset in life.
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3/24/2017 11:15am
Ryan Dungey was sponsored by Target before he was a multi-time National Champion
Jeff Glass was sponsored by Surf Detergent and not really a top 20 rider.

Plenty of mid-field amateurs and experts get free gear, parts discounts, etc. just by creating a resume. Nothing wrong with him selling himself.

Again, still waiting for pictures of his girlfriend ????
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ML512 wrote:
In this case, a brand is going to spend the money where it gets exposure. Core viewers could argue "well what if that money went to...
In this case, a brand is going to spend the money where it gets exposure. Core viewers could argue "well what if that money went to a struggling rider"...it wouldn't, period. A brand like Monster already sinks a ton of money into racing at the core Supercross/Motocross level, grassroots Amateur Nationals and more. In this case, someone like Bereman or Hodges reaches outside the core racer group to someone who's just more into that kind of scene. Monster wants to reach all the eyes they can and just sponsoring Supercross riders isn't going to do that. As much as us core mx fans hate it, the wheelie boy/bro/whip/stoppie/burnout harley/whatever you want to call it crowd is more into what Bereman, Hodges, Durham or Twitch is doing. So Monster spends money supporting these guys as well, especially to shoot videos that get more views than a lot of our core racer projects do.

It's one of those cases where in certain areas you could ask a few random people if they know who Ken Roczen is and who Jeremy "Twitch" Stenberg is.... You're going to run into some people who know who Twitch is but don't know K-Roc and vice-versa.
MDM wrote:
Nailed it. Monster is in the business to make money. A lot of it. Core MX fans would love the $$$ to roll into a B/C...
Nailed it.

Monster is in the business to make money. A lot of it.

Core MX fans would love the $$$ to roll into a B/C level team or a couple privateers, but a kid like Axell or Tyler are going to sell more cans of Monster.

Think of where the racing side of the sport would be (both am and pro) if Monster wasn't in the picture.

Rather than complaining about what they aren't doing, I think more need to be thankful they are pumping as much money into the sport as they are...regardless of the who/what/when/where/how.
This backs it up a bit more on exposure. K-Roc was number one in moto in January but for February social stats, Haiden Deegan is on top. But, Axell Hodges was in second both months...every Moto athlete is on this list.

Crazy one, James Stewart isn't even in the top 100 for interactions anymore because he has gone dark and he has the largest following...



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3/24/2017 11:19am
ML512 wrote:
This backs it up a bit more on exposure. K-Roc was number one in moto in January but for February social stats, Haiden Deegan is on...
This backs it up a bit more on exposure. K-Roc was number one in moto in January but for February social stats, Haiden Deegan is on top. But, Axell Hodges was in second both months...every Moto athlete is on this list.

Crazy one, James Stewart isn't even in the top 100 for interactions anymore because he has gone dark and he has the largest following...



And Axell's engagement rate CRUSHES everyone. It's all about that social media engagement.
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philG wrote:
me either.. everything that's wrong with the sport IMO .
Sure there are plenty of people that would think your archaic way of thinking is all that is wrong with the sport as well.
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3/24/2017 11:30am Edited Date/Time 3/24/2017 11:40am
You don't have to race to get paid. This guy may have been one of the very first Red Bull Sponsored motorsports athletes ever in the 90s and early 2000's and didn't race. And there was no social media either.

He had Red Bull, Fox, Oakley, Polaris, Ski Doo you name it. Everyone.

And this was damn near 20 years ago. And he never really raced. He was just a backcountry snowmobile guy who took it real far with videos doing shit nobody would ever get to do really.








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You don't have to race to get paid. This guy may have been one of the very first Red Bull Sponsored motorsports athletes ever in the...
You don't have to race to get paid. This guy may have been one of the very first Red Bull Sponsored motorsports athletes ever in the 90s and early 2000's and didn't race. And there was no social media either.

He had Red Bull, Fox, Oakley, Polaris, Ski Doo you name it. Everyone.

And this was damn near 20 years ago. And he never really raced. He was just a backcountry snowmobile guy who took it real far with videos doing shit nobody would ever get to do really.








Is there really no sled forum on the internet?
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3/24/2017 11:54am
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And Axell's engagement rate CRUSHES everyone. It's all about that social media engagement.

agreed. That number is pretty impressive from a marketer's perspective.

A little while back a buddy of mine were talking about sponsorship stuff. They happen to be one of Axel's paying sponsors and he told me Axel's social media reach and popularity was the sole reason they sponsored him. I was also surprised at the $ amount, I think it's a bargain for the company imo. It's peanuts compared to what the same deal would be for a top tier racer that's also on that influencer list (Roczen, Anderson...) and they're all well below Axel from a social media standpoint.
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3/24/2017 12:14pm Edited Date/Time 3/24/2017 12:15pm
Look at this post from Axell's IG:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BPV2Or1BJXm/?taken-by=axellhodges

26.2K likes
97 comments

Now, look at this one from Kenny before the injury:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BNZkU9nAZlg/?taken-by=kenroczen94&hl=en

47.4k likes
194 comments

Before his injury, Kenny was the hottest topic. Axell has more that 50% of Kenny's numbers.

Both posts are similar in the exposure they are giving sponsors. Bike and gear pretty visible all around.

I would bet the farm that Axell comes WAYYYYYY cheaper than 50% of Kenny.

When you think of it this way, it's easy to see why sponsors will continue to flock to kids like this. He has unreal bike stills. His social content engagement is off the charts. Quite the value from a marketing perspective.
3/24/2017 12:20pm
How many of you guys would be totally cool with your girls social media being all selfies that make her appear to be a whore? Tits out, ass out, pussy shots, etc. I know that's how those girls make money but if that's the case I have no interest in them so when people say "yo he's dating a monster chick" etc. that is a complete turn off in real life. I had a girl who only owned push up bras and no belts, that shit changed real quick once it got anything close to serious.
3/24/2017 12:30pm
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His GF is super hot
There is no way Sydney Maler is his chick.
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No doubt he has benefited, and continues to benefit from family connections. But how is that any different from the amateurs in the million dollar motorhomes with the full time mechanics. Or even someone like Dungey whose family busted ass to support their sons. I had friends growing up that had everything given to them, some succeeded when they may not have on their own. Some didn't. I didn't do without but had very little support for my MX racing endeavors. I ended up racing BMX because I could hitch a ride with friends to be able to do more than the 2 races a month my mom took me to. I learned long ago that not everyone gets the same deal, it's what you do with it whatever that deal is. Not my thing but it looks like he's taking advantage of his lot in life. Good for him, one less criminal of welfare recipient for us to have to support.
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3/24/2017 12:32pm
Axell has a ridiculous amount of talent, but I do get the "what does he even do?" type of thing. Kind of reminds me of someone doing a cool little dance on the street corner with a hat on the ground for people to toss money into, you walk away wondering why they're wasting talent on the street corner. In reality that's not the situation and it's much more complex, but I get the perception.
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3/24/2017 12:35pm Edited Date/Time 3/24/2017 12:54pm
JW381 wrote:
Is there really no sled forum on the internet?
You don't get the point of the whole subject.
The subject is about why is this kid making all kinds of money and having sponsors without really racing. And unfortunately, those exact same sponsors are throwing alot of money(to normal folk anyway) at all kinds of other people doing the same shit in other sports also without ever really racing. Granted, the kid was kinda born into it, but he is a bad ass bike rider. Better than most.

The point is, more people probably know Non racers like this kid more than the racers. Because most people will never even come close to being a top racer or have no intention of ever racing.

Jon Olsson is an ex ski racer who makes more now as a internet and youtube "Celery" than he did before racing. Way more exposure.

Ever been to Glamis on a Holiday weekend? Those 150,000 people have better rigs than Factory racers and just as good bikes and equipment, and they buy it. And have money to spend. And an open wallet.

Most regular people probably watch Doonies more than SX races because it is relateable to them. They can actually go to the dunes and do the exact same jumps. They can't go race a SX.

This Hodges kid gets damn near just as many threads on here as James Stewart.





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I think Axel Hodges area of expertise include mostly taking mean rips from the bong while getting his balls licked by Dirt Shark, who happens to be his big brother. It's obvious that Hodges has some serious skills on a dirt bike, but I just cannot deal with the ridiculous hardcore Brocal thing they have going on.
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3/24/2017 12:38pm
JW381 wrote:
Is there really no sled forum on the internet?
Mortgage Paul had pretty much been laughed off Snowest back in the day...........
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Axell is more marketable than most racers. People forget anyone outside of the top 10 of a super cross anyways. $ talks.

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