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OK so I am a new rider and I have about 12 hours on a 2005 CR125. I bought this bike ragged out, replaced BOTH wheels, have done a shitload of maintenance and know the mechanicals inside and out. It's really easy to work on compared to a 4 cyl street bike. The 12 hours is basically my entire experience on a motocross track. All my other time was on street bikes. I only had about 2500 miles so you can imagine my level of competence. I'm finally getting to the point where I can go to the track, get a good workout, and not fall off the bike.
Anyway today I rode a 2007 CRF250 w/ pro circuit head and race gas. Why the hell does anyone bother with 2 strokes? This 4 stroke 250 has power everywhere and best of all for a new rider like me you can shift up and still get a good pull without the motor being wound out. For an advanced rider, if it makes the same power as a 2 stroke it's obviously a better choice since the power is more predictable and has way more area under the curve. Obviously the pro ranks have spoken although if F1 is any indication that means next to nothing as far as what's badass or what sucks.
I was easily moving even in deep sand and the bike had so much torque, all the time, that it was easy to get air where the 125 would just be bogging or spinning clutched out and not gripping. On straights, I could just grab a gear, grab the throttle, and go the same speed as I could MAYBE go at max effort on the 125. I know that I'll now be getting a 250, although I'll probably keep the CR since although it's a ridiculously unbalanced bike (great chassis laughably workeable motor) but very collectable.
The problem with the 2 stroke is it is all or nothing and while it does go i have to keep it wound out and I feel like a douchebag doing 11K rpms and riding slow and like a goon. If you drop it off the pipe it just sucks ass. Plus you have to CONSTANTLY shift it which gets old. I mean, this isn't a car where I'm sitting and I have paddles. I have to ride this thing and exert a lot of effort. You'd think I'm already doing enough that I don't need the additional "fun challenge" of shifting every 700 milliseconds.
Anyway today I rode a 2007 CRF250 w/ pro circuit head and race gas. Why the hell does anyone bother with 2 strokes? This 4 stroke 250 has power everywhere and best of all for a new rider like me you can shift up and still get a good pull without the motor being wound out. For an advanced rider, if it makes the same power as a 2 stroke it's obviously a better choice since the power is more predictable and has way more area under the curve. Obviously the pro ranks have spoken although if F1 is any indication that means next to nothing as far as what's badass or what sucks.
I was easily moving even in deep sand and the bike had so much torque, all the time, that it was easy to get air where the 125 would just be bogging or spinning clutched out and not gripping. On straights, I could just grab a gear, grab the throttle, and go the same speed as I could MAYBE go at max effort on the 125. I know that I'll now be getting a 250, although I'll probably keep the CR since although it's a ridiculously unbalanced bike (great chassis laughably workeable motor) but very collectable.
The problem with the 2 stroke is it is all or nothing and while it does go i have to keep it wound out and I feel like a douchebag doing 11K rpms and riding slow and like a goon. If you drop it off the pipe it just sucks ass. Plus you have to CONSTANTLY shift it which gets old. I mean, this isn't a car where I'm sitting and I have paddles. I have to ride this thing and exert a lot of effort. You'd think I'm already doing enough that I don't need the additional "fun challenge" of shifting every 700 milliseconds.
In all but the pro classes the rules are 250 vs 250. I don't feel disadvantaged at all rolling up to the grid on my 250 2 stroke. I know I have one of the most powerful bikes on the grid.
Maybe ride a 250 2 stroke before you decide on the 250f
There's lots of reasons why owning a 2005 CR is better than owning a 2007 CRF. And I'm not talking about performance.
I don't care about the cost of 4 stroke maintenance.
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My latest top end is 1 hour old. The clutch is fresh. The engine technology is like spears and shields vs machine guns.
I really wouldn't ever recommend a 250 2 stroke for a new rider because they are way too fucking radical. A 250f would be fine but are also a lot of extra expense and will make you a lazier rider. They're also heavier and will tire you out quicker. Instead bore that bitch out to a 144 or something and enjoy your newfound lease on life.
Also, personally I don't care about 2 strokes all that much. They're fun but they're more of a novelty to me. I'd never own one as my only bike.
Edit: I don't understand why people think this guy is a troll? A beginner who has only ridden a 125 and stepped on a modded 250f would probably think it had unlimited power lol
The 125 is fast in the right hands. The more you ride it, the faster you will become on it.
It takes skill to ride a 125 consistently fast around a track.
They who must be obeyed rule that a 125 is an equal to the 250F.
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The rest of the world will catch on....one day.
Muppets.
2. Its supposed to be harder to ride fast. Its supposed to make you learn to control the throttle, brakes, and clutch better. It's supposed to make you develop skills that aren't as critical on a 4 stroke, but will make you a better rider when you do transition to a 4 stroke.
This sport is a lot more about rider skill than the bike. And two strokes generally require more skill. Put the right person on your 125 and it will completely change your opinion of the smokers capability.
Let The 2 Strokes goooooooooo
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