Jeff Alessi Injured GoFundMe Link

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TXDirt 3/8/2017 7:08am
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EddieC wrote:
If you got injured practicing you need to hit up Road 2 Recovery. That is what they are there for, to help injured riders.
TXDirt wrote:
I think RTR is for severely injured riders who have had a life altering/career ending neck and/or back injury. Those kinds of doctor bills and rehab...
I think RTR is for severely injured riders who have had a life altering/career ending neck and/or back injury. Those kinds of doctor bills and rehab costs will reach into the millions in a lot of cases. Injured riders are usually in the hospital for weeks if not months.

Don't think Jeff's injury falls into this category. Not hating. Just clearing up what RTR supports. Someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
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Just out of curiosity, do you know who that is you're talking to? Don't get me wrong, I've been proven wrong about the Bobby Regan/Yamaha connection...
Just out of curiosity, do you know who that is you're talking to?

Don't get me wrong, I've been proven wrong about the Bobby Regan/Yamaha connection, but...
No. I was just doing research on their own website which says career ending injuries. Most everything was spinal cord related. Reviewed tax returns on the outgoing funds for 2015. Looked to be for significant injuries and circumstances.

I could be wrong and maybe they do give out small amounts to riders practicing. Happy to be wrong like I said.
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Certainly some are less tactful than others but having the opinion that you shouldn't ride without health insurance is not being negative. I tell my friends...
Certainly some are less tactful than others but having the opinion that you shouldn't ride without health insurance is not being negative. I tell my friends who ride without insurance the exact same thing. I also wouldn't donate to my friends to pay for their stupidity. Every pro and amateur out there knows it's not if but when in this sport.
We can all agree that insurance it's a MUST! The point I was trying to make was, why kick the guy while he's down?

He doesn't need to be reminded every second post that he should've had insurance.

Don't want to help...fine. but why call him stupid? That's the part that pisses me off.

I'm out before this derails into a political discussion.
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GuyB 3/8/2017 7:31am
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If you want to help, go for it. For those who don't, take your lecture somewhere else.
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GuyB wrote:
If you want to help, go for it. For those who don't, take your lecture somewhere else.
This ^^^

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I don't have a lot of sympathy for a dude who used a laser pointer to get an advantage for his brother and then acts like a tough guy to the official who questioned him. I just watched that video again and it still agitates me, he could have permanently injured Villopoto and Stewart.....Was he worried about if Villopoto and Stewart had insurance?
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Monte122 wrote:
We can all agree that insurance it's a MUST! The point I was trying to make was, why kick the guy while he's down? He doesn't...
We can all agree that insurance it's a MUST! The point I was trying to make was, why kick the guy while he's down?

He doesn't need to be reminded every second post that he should've had insurance.

Don't want to help...fine. but why call him stupid? That's the part that pisses me off.

I'm out before this derails into a political discussion.
Exactly. Obviously the water is under the bridge at this point. Don't twist the dagger about not having ins. Hope you get well soon Jeff.
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zingaa wrote:
I don't have a lot of sympathy for a dude who used a laser pointer to get an advantage for his brother and then acts like...
I don't have a lot of sympathy for a dude who used a laser pointer to get an advantage for his brother and then acts like a tough guy to the official who questioned him. I just watched that video again and it still agitates me, he could have permanently injured Villopoto and Stewart.....Was he worried about if Villopoto and Stewart had insurance?
I knew it was going to come up. I'm surprised it took this long.

By the way, bro, your sprocket bolts are loose. Better get on that.
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zingaa wrote:
I don't have a lot of sympathy for a dude who used a laser pointer to get an advantage for his brother and then acts like...
I don't have a lot of sympathy for a dude who used a laser pointer to get an advantage for his brother and then acts like a tough guy to the official who questioned him. I just watched that video again and it still agitates me, he could have permanently injured Villopoto and Stewart.....Was he worried about if Villopoto and Stewart had insurance?
That may have been your last post
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Bare with me, I'm from the UK....... So, even though Jeff has some pretty big injuries unless he pays nothing gets done? Nothing? Not even a...
Bare with me, I'm from the UK.......

So, even though Jeff has some pretty big injuries unless he pays nothing gets done? Nothing? Not even a proper diagnosis? He just lies there in pain?

What happens to a poor older person who trips and breaks their hip/leg etc? Grin a bare it?
If he had the mechanism and was at a trauma center he would have had a CT of his chest, abdomen, pelvis, + plain films of the various other sites. No better place in the world than a level 1 US trauma center.

I run trauma's all day long. I don't ask about insurance.
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No. I was just doing research on their own website which says career ending injuries. Most everything was spinal cord related. Reviewed tax returns on the...
No. I was just doing research on their own website which says career ending injuries. Most everything was spinal cord related. Reviewed tax returns on the outgoing funds for 2015. Looked to be for significant injuries and circumstances.

I could be wrong and maybe they do give out small amounts to riders practicing. Happy to be wrong like I said.
That's Eddie from the mobile med unit and I figure they work close enough with R2R that he'd know about who they help out. Of course, I know shit about the workings of R2R myself
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ob 3/8/2017 8:11am
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Health care and insurance in the US are both scams. One feeds the other, they both are sucking the country dry. Pay all that money to your insurance company just to have them deny your claim for any reason they can. I'm sure if Jeff had a normal policy it wouldn't take the insurance company long to figure out what he does and deny him anyway. Get well soon Jeff.
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twotwosix 3/8/2017 8:12am
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Get better soon Jeff. You don't need to be riding a dirt bike at your level without health insurance.
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Juice_Mann wrote:
Something here isn't adding up. Back a few years ago when I was still in college and under my moms insurance I got into crash and...
Something here isn't adding up. Back a few years ago when I was still in college and under my moms insurance I got into crash and went to the ER. All they did was give me an IV and put me in some weird scanner thing (not an MRI). Well the insurance company fucked up and I got a $7,500 bill in the mail. All for a scan and an MRI. My insurance eventually covered it but the point is I didn't break any bones and didn't need surgery. From my experience 2k might get you a fat band aid. Can someone explain? Get well soon Jeff.
You had a Ct scan and a MRI from the ED. These are both 2k-4k each depending on the facility. Even if you did these at an out patient imaging center they would run 1k-3k per scan. Then you add on professional fees, iv fees, facility fees, radiology interpretation fees, etc and you end up with a 10k bill to ensure that you don't have a life or limb threatening injury, or better yet to identify what it is so we can properly treat you going forward.

A 3G MRI costs 3 million dollars. The yearly maintenance contract is about 400k. This doesn't include any other costs for having it up 24/7, radiologist and techs who can read/work the machines, etc.

Medicine is expensive.
Juice_Mann 3/8/2017 8:27am
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Juice_Mann wrote:
Something here isn't adding up. Back a few years ago when I was still in college and under my moms insurance I got into crash and...
Something here isn't adding up. Back a few years ago when I was still in college and under my moms insurance I got into crash and went to the ER. All they did was give me an IV and put me in some weird scanner thing (not an MRI). Well the insurance company fucked up and I got a $7,500 bill in the mail. All for a scan and an MRI. My insurance eventually covered it but the point is I didn't break any bones and didn't need surgery. From my experience 2k might get you a fat band aid. Can someone explain? Get well soon Jeff.
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You had a Ct scan and a MRI from the ED. These are both 2k-4k each depending on the facility. Even if you did these at...
You had a Ct scan and a MRI from the ED. These are both 2k-4k each depending on the facility. Even if you did these at an out patient imaging center they would run 1k-3k per scan. Then you add on professional fees, iv fees, facility fees, radiology interpretation fees, etc and you end up with a 10k bill to ensure that you don't have a life or limb threatening injury, or better yet to identify what it is so we can properly treat you going forward.

A 3G MRI costs 3 million dollars. The yearly maintenance contract is about 400k. This doesn't include any other costs for having it up 24/7, radiologist and techs who can read/work the machines, etc.

Medicine is expensive.
Okay thanks for the info, but my real question was how does Jeff think 2k is going to cover anything if he has a bunch of broken bones? If my bill was 7.5k then wouldn't his be like quadruple that at least? The go fund me goal didn't make any sense to me.
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cali11 3/8/2017 8:29am
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I will drop a few bucks to help you bro. Hope you get well soon. We have health insurance through my wife's work. She's an RN & makes good money. We pay around $400 per month in deductibles. Then if you have surgery they want you to pay 10%. These vitards have no idea what they are talking about. 2k ain't shit to ask for & it's not going to cover much. Obama really fucked our health coverage system up! Now if your illegal you won't have to worry about paying shit!
Jmicmoto13 3/8/2017 8:30am
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Polarizing thread we have here...
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Being an avid motocross rider, a huge fan of everyone and the fact that I am in the healthcare industry, I cant help myself and I had to write this post after reading these these comments.

First thing is first, Jeff I don't know when you lost your healthcare but I know exactly how the law works and this whole system works 100%. So, while my advice cant help you for what is going on right now, it could certainly help you out moving forward with everything else that you will be facing down the road. Call me or email me and I will walk you thru what you need to do.

As far as all of the other comments go..... well at the end of the day all I can say is that the term "Obamacare" that everyone keeps throwing around is not healthcare. There is no such thing as "Obamacare" as a form of healthcare. It is just a slang term for the Affordable Care Act law. That means everyone in the country has to have healthcare coverage from 1 of 7 places that meets the Affordable Care Act's guidelines or they will be fined my the IRS. 1 of those 7 places happens to be healthcare.gov. If you happen to have a knowledgeable agent (like myself) that knows how to navigate the marketplace, get you the tax credits to offset the cost, get you placed in the correct plans that will give you the lower subsidized deductibles with the low out of pocket cost that the system allows based on your income then you are good to go.

You would be amazed to know, that once its all said and done, that a silver plan is better than a platinum plan once the tax credits and subsidies are applied!!! Then again the government is involved so maybe that is the way they wanted it to be so no one can understand it anyways LOL. If everyone understood it then I highly doubt that I would be reading alot of these comments.

The stuff I just explained above is the stuff you never hear on the mainstream news or read anywhere but that is the truth on the way the system really works.

So here is my question, are the privateers and other teams that are trying to make it really not pulling in the money that I am thinking that they are and that there are many more potential riders/teams in this same situation as Jeff? If so I extent the same offer to anyone that I told Jeff above.

Call me or email me at my office. My contact information is listed below and I have no problems helping anyone out. I would have figured that their would be some industry insider somewhere that would have been taking care of all of these race teams and riders already but if there isn't I have no problem at all being that guy!!! We work with every insurance carrier in the country, we only work in the healthcare industry and since the carriers pay the agents direct it wont cost you a dime!!!!

Jeff shoot me an email!!!!

T.J. Grunwald
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mjr119 3/8/2017 9:07am
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Jeff, what's your paypal? I'd like to circumvent GoFme, if possible.

Jeff and his family are good moto people, so what if they have made some mistakes, we all have. I spent quite a bit of time talking to you and Mike at the Parker Valley LLQ back in 2004, I believe. You were sitting on the old tractor pretending to till the track haha. I remember it like it was yesterday.

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davistld01 3/8/2017 9:18am
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Why do all the asshats come out from under the rock when they smell blood? Guys, whether Jeff is right or wrong...if you can help, do...if you can't, and just want to point fingers or pile on...stfu!
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mjr119 wrote:
Jeff, what's your paypal? I'd like to circumvent GoFme, if possible. Jeff and his family are good moto people, so what if they have made some...
Jeff, what's your paypal? I'd like to circumvent GoFme, if possible.

Jeff and his family are good moto people, so what if they have made some mistakes, we all have. I spent quite a bit of time talking to you and Mike at the Parker Valley LLQ back in 2004, I believe. You were sitting on the old tractor pretending to till the track haha. I remember it like it was yesterday.

I was literally just about to post this as well. I don't want to give GoFundMe any more money than they need.
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Kawisrok 3/8/2017 9:31am
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So, excuse the ignorance but doesn't he ride for MotoConcepts? Why wouldn't they be picking up the bill?
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WillyB 3/8/2017 9:38am
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sorry to hear Jeff. Hope you have a full and speedy recovery homie.
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Jmicmoto13 wrote:
Polarizing thread we have here...
Today's America........sadly.
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Get well soon 801, always been a fan
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Jmicmoto13 wrote:
Polarizing thread we have here...
OW38B wrote:
Today's America........sadly.
Time for a clean-up on the politics aisle, and the can't play well with others aisle.
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Kawisrok wrote:
So, excuse the ignorance but doesn't he ride for MotoConcepts? Why wouldn't they be picking up the bill?
No.
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Tony must be so pissed..
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GuyB wrote:
Time for a clean-up on the politics aisle, and the can't play well with others aisle.
Thanks Guyb! If i wanted to hear griping and complaining all the time I'd go home to my wife...
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Kawisrok wrote:
So, excuse the ignorance but doesn't he ride for MotoConcepts? Why wouldn't they be picking up the bill?
GuyB wrote:
No.
See, ignorance on my part lol..
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JBecker 72 3/8/2017 10:17am
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The amount he is asking for wouldn't even cover my deductible.

I would also imagine the cost for insurance on a professional racer would be incredibly high due to the risk factors of the sport.

Hope you have a speedy recovery.

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