Show us your 2017 crf450

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kiwifan 3/7/2017 10:56am
3/7/2017 10:56am
motoracer downunder wrote:
This is a concern
CarlinoJoeVideo wrote:
I was told that the trick to starting these bikes is giving it ZERO throttle. I think cracking the throttle also causes the kick back.
motoracer downunder wrote:
Thats dead right! Those maps I would think will be rich off the bottom , aggressive will be leaner hence being snappy. Good info on maps...
Thats dead right! Those maps I would think will be rich off the bottom , aggressive will be leaner hence being snappy. Good info on maps and kick back . I'm thinking I'm just going to get mine straight on the hrc turning kit and clean up the maps. A freind who is a top rider ' in nz rode the rx and said it's jearky off the bottom so is the r some say.
I'm also going to look into Tokyo mods remap?
yes the bottom end isnt too smooth compared to others, however as you say good mapping cleans this up and also helps starting....plus adds some power
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dylanv21 3/7/2017 12:59pm
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HOD913 wrote:
Fuel injected bikes you do not need to give throttle. They say its a 2 - 3 kick process for all FI bikes. 1 or 2...
Fuel injected bikes you do not need to give throttle. They say its a 2 - 3 kick process for all FI bikes. 1 or 2 kicks to fuel and 1 to fire. My 17' started super easy with zero effort on 2 kicks if wasnt on the 1st. Way easier to kick then my 09 or my 13
My 17 is way easier to kick start then my 13 as well.. This past weekend, my 17 had not been started in about 3 weeks, started first kick and I barely kicked it.. DAMN
kiwi_mudbug 3/7/2017 1:06pm
3/7/2017 1:06pm
HOD913 wrote:
Fuel injected bikes you do not need to give throttle. They say its a 2 - 3 kick process for all FI bikes. 1 or 2...
Fuel injected bikes you do not need to give throttle. They say its a 2 - 3 kick process for all FI bikes. 1 or 2 kicks to fuel and 1 to fire. My 17' started super easy with zero effort on 2 kicks if wasnt on the 1st. Way easier to kick then my 09 or my 13
dylanv21 wrote:
My 17 is way easier to kick start then my 13 as well.. This past weekend, my 17 had not been started in about 3 weeks...
My 17 is way easier to kick start then my 13 as well.. This past weekend, my 17 had not been started in about 3 weeks, started first kick and I barely kicked it.. DAMN
Perhaps yours is from the 2nd batch of bikes out of Japan with diffrent ecu tuning. Sounds good
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racerray909 3/7/2017 1:58pm
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HOD913 wrote:
Fuel injected bikes you do not need to give throttle. They say its a 2 - 3 kick process for all FI bikes. 1 or 2...
Fuel injected bikes you do not need to give throttle. They say its a 2 - 3 kick process for all FI bikes. 1 or 2 kicks to fuel and 1 to fire. My 17' started super easy with zero effort on 2 kicks if wasnt on the 1st. Way easier to kick then my 09 or my 13
dylanv21 wrote:
My 17 is way easier to kick start then my 13 as well.. This past weekend, my 17 had not been started in about 3 weeks...
My 17 is way easier to kick start then my 13 as well.. This past weekend, my 17 had not been started in about 3 weeks, started first kick and I barely kicked it.. DAMN
kiwi_mudbug wrote:
Perhaps yours is from the 2nd batch of bikes out of Japan with diffrent ecu tuning. Sounds good
My was the first one to get to my dealer in December and it's the easiest bike to start. It will start cold, Hot and in gear. Just takes a very lite kick.

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Bnagazina 3/7/2017 8:41pm
3/7/2017 8:41pm
Uncle Tony wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2017/03/06/179989/s1200_image.jpg[/img]


Wow. Honda 2017 meet Suzuki 2008. Same issue. At least Suzuki gave me a new 2009 engine. Suspect Honda will handle any issue in a similar fashion.
mx-doctor 3/7/2017 10:28pm
3/7/2017 10:28pm
Just saw this happen to a `17 450 Honda last week... not nice!


motoracer downunder 3/7/2017 10:36pm
3/7/2017 10:36pm
More info makes better reading ?
Bolt may have come loose . Poor maintenance.
mx-doctor 3/7/2017 10:55pm
3/7/2017 10:55pm
All bolts were fine... the ears on the Frame broke off!
kiwi_mudbug 3/7/2017 11:00pm
3/7/2017 11:00pm
Damn . Mayby I sould be waiting till 18
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gjbruny 3/7/2017 11:05pm
3/7/2017 11:05pm
damn i was looking all over the cases to see a crack somewhere...... then noticed the funny angle on the swingarm. was the rider ok?
motoracer downunder 3/7/2017 11:14pm
3/7/2017 11:14pm Edited Date/Time 3/7/2017 11:16pm
kiwi_mudbug wrote:
Damn . Mayby I sould be waiting till 18
Mate I had a good chat with city h
They assured me there have been none of these in nz reported at this stage.
I've been told they will look after us and Honda nz will have to its in there best interest. Ofton you see some first year teething problems but these are serious. If it becomes wide spread world wide in time a recall will happen. Not every bike will suffer the same problems . I'm going ahead but I will ride honda 's arse till I get a new 18 if my ones a lemon . Keep this to ourselfs Jason Smile
kiwi_mudbug 3/7/2017 11:38pm
3/7/2017 11:38pm
kiwi_mudbug wrote:
Damn . Mayby I sould be waiting till 18
motoracer downunder wrote:
Mate I had a good chat with city h They assured me there have been none of these in nz reported at this stage. I've been...
Mate I had a good chat with city h
They assured me there have been none of these in nz reported at this stage.
I've been told they will look after us and Honda nz will have to its in there best interest. Ofton you see some first year teething problems but these are serious. If it becomes wide spread world wide in time a recall will happen. Not every bike will suffer the same problems . I'm going ahead but I will ride honda 's arse till I get a new 18 if my ones a lemon . Keep this to ourselfs Jason Smile
Sounds good mate m I'm reasonable good mates with scotty .. lips are sealed
motoracer downunder 3/7/2017 11:49pm
3/7/2017 11:49pm
kiwi_mudbug wrote:
Damn . Mayby I sould be waiting till 18
motoracer downunder wrote:
Mate I had a good chat with city h They assured me there have been none of these in nz reported at this stage. I've been...
Mate I had a good chat with city h
They assured me there have been none of these in nz reported at this stage.
I've been told they will look after us and Honda nz will have to its in there best interest. Ofton you see some first year teething problems but these are serious. If it becomes wide spread world wide in time a recall will happen. Not every bike will suffer the same problems . I'm going ahead but I will ride honda 's arse till I get a new 18 if my ones a lemon . Keep this to ourselfs Jason Smile
kiwi_mudbug wrote:
Sounds good mate m I'm reasonable good mates with scotty .. lips are sealed
All good. I don't no Scott but I've been told Bevan is good to deal with and i find him good , sure Scot is to . He was reassuring I had to voice my concerns. Should we both break two in the same place see who's brakes first lol
mx-doctor 3/8/2017 12:14am
3/8/2017 12:14am
gjbruny wrote:
damn i was looking all over the cases to see a crack somewhere...... then noticed the funny angle on the swingarm. was the rider ok?
Yes, no crash and rider was ok!
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Bennett59 3/9/2017 7:48am
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What oil are you guys running? Just broke mine in and have tons of left over rotella triple t 15-40w oil from my husky or should I run different weights
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215 3/9/2017 8:54am
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Bennett59 wrote:
What oil are you guys running? Just broke mine in and have tons of left over rotella triple t 15-40w oil from my husky or should...
What oil are you guys running? Just broke mine in and have tons of left over rotella triple t 15-40w oil from my husky or should I run different weights
I've never been a fan of rotella in the transmission side and since these new honda engine and tranny are all in one, I personally, would not use rotella. I've been using Honda GN4 10w40 with no problems.
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215 3/9/2017 8:58am
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mx-doctor wrote:
Just saw this happen to a `17 450 Honda last week... not nice! [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2017/03/07/180328/s1200_IMG_1312_2.jpg[/img]
Just saw this happen to a `17 450 Honda last week... not nice!


Got any better/close-up shots of where it failed?

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Green backgrounds. 5/5.
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Ryno23 3/13/2017 8:23pm
3/13/2017 8:23pm Edited Date/Time 3/13/2017 11:12pm
Finished up my Yosh system and estart Friday. Rode it for the first time on Saturday. Been a long winter waiting to be able to ride this baby after a surgery to fix my hip.







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Tokyo_Tiddler 3/13/2017 9:14pm
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I like your 2nd picture.. are those your younger bothers or your kids?

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motoracer downunder 3/13/2017 10:01pm
3/13/2017 10:01pm
Ryno23 wrote:
Finished up my Yosh system and estart Friday. Rode it for the first time on Saturday. Been a long winter waiting to be able to ride...
Finished up my Yosh system and estart Friday. Rode it for the first time on Saturday. Been a long winter waiting to be able to ride this baby after a surgery to fix my hip.







Well give us a ride report then
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Ryno23 3/13/2017 11:06pm
3/13/2017 11:06pm Edited Date/Time 3/13/2017 11:13pm
Tokyo_Tiddler wrote:
I like your 2nd picture.. are those your younger bothers or your kids?

mike
Haha, those are my kids. 7 and 12. I'm a 41 y/o vet A rider. Kids were excited to be riding too!

Ride report is good so far. Power is likable, suspension feels a tad soft. Just breaking in and then we will see what Springs and valving I need.

Mind you I just had my hip replaced Jan 9th so I'm not anywhere near full speed or strength yet. So full report good and bad soon as I'm healed.
motoracer downunder 3/13/2017 11:13pm
3/13/2017 11:13pm Edited Date/Time 3/13/2017 11:14pm
Tokyo_Tiddler wrote:
I like your 2nd picture.. are those your younger bothers or your kids?

mike
Ryno23 wrote:
Haha, those are my kids. 7 and 12. I'm a 41 y/o vet A rider. Kids were excited to be riding too! Ride report is good...
Haha, those are my kids. 7 and 12. I'm a 41 y/o vet A rider. Kids were excited to be riding too!

Ride report is good so far. Power is likable, suspension feels a tad soft. Just breaking in and then we will see what Springs and valving I need.

Mind you I just had my hip replaced Jan 9th so I'm not anywhere near full speed or strength yet. So full report good and bad soon as I'm healed.
All good . What's your weight kgs?
Vet here to .a lot saying bit soft but I'm 70kg so I'm not thinking I'll change a thing Smile
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Ryno23 3/13/2017 11:22pm
3/13/2017 11:22pm
I'm 6ft 1in tall at 195lbs so about 185cm tall at 88kg I think?

I used 20mm risers to help alleviate the cramped feeling but it still feels a bit smaller than my 16 did. Time will give better answers. Btw, estart sucks to install. Honda f'd that up. Shouldn't be so much involved in it. I'm the service manager at a Honda shop with lots of racing AND wrenching experience. This Estart kit is not well thought out.
motoracer downunder 3/13/2017 11:30pm
3/13/2017 11:30pm
Ryno23 wrote:
I'm 6ft 1in tall at 195lbs so about 185cm tall at 88kg I think? I used 20mm risers to help alleviate the cramped feeling but it...
I'm 6ft 1in tall at 195lbs so about 185cm tall at 88kg I think?

I used 20mm risers to help alleviate the cramped feeling but it still feels a bit smaller than my 16 did. Time will give better answers. Btw, estart sucks to install. Honda f'd that up. Shouldn't be so much involved in it. I'm the service manager at a Honda shop with lots of racing AND wrenching experience. This Estart kit is not well thought out.
Yes talking to the dealer its a misson .im not going to bother. Sounds like its going to have perfect valving and spring rates for my small frame. What do you make of all the clutch and auto decomp failing and taking out cases hype? Seen any . I've had some good advice and reassurances not to stress .
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Lastander 3/14/2017 1:09am
3/14/2017 1:09am Edited Date/Time 3/14/2017 1:10am
I would recomend using Honda's own oil, changed my oil after 5 hours, put in the same maxima i have used for ages, at 6hrs the clutch gave in.
Tore it down and it was all clogged up, cleaned it all up and now it works fine

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